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- 12-21-2005, 04:27 PM #16Guest
Re: Bigpond 1xEV-DO
the reason is mobility. You pay extra for that with the PCMCIA card.
The idea is to limit the powered modem to a geographical location so it
can't be used in a mobility situation (determined by ESN).
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- 12-21-2005, 06:39 PM #17DoofusGuest
Re: Bigpond 1xEV-DO
KB Wrote:[color=blue]
> Nick Adams wrote:
> No, you must be thinking about the Maxon Minimax device that is 1xRTT
> only. The BigPond desktop modem is a Maxon USB modem that is EV-DO
> only.
Maxon Minimax is both 1xRTT and 1xEVDO.
http://www.maxon.com.au/products/con...nimax-home.asp
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- 12-21-2005, 09:21 PM #18Tom SmythGuest
Re: Bigpond 1xEV-DO
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> the reason is mobility. You pay extra for that with the PCMCIA card.
> The idea is to limit the powered modem to a geographical location so it
> can't be used in a mobility situation (determined by ESN).
That's certainly their standard answer and makes sense to some degree, but
as someone else well pointed out the cardbus roams to RTT which would cost
them a lot more, in more ways than one.
- 12-22-2005, 05:14 AM #19MichaelGuest
Re: Bigpond 1xEV-DO
"Nick Adams" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> -= Spudley =- wrote:
> > Tom Smyth wrote:
> >> "-= Spudley =-" <-= Spudley [email protected]> wrote in message
> >> news:[email protected]...
> >>> Tom Smyth wrote:
> >>>> Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and
> >>>> mobile (PCMCIA) plans.
> >>>>
> >>>> The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile plans
> >>>> cost twice as much.
> >>>>
> >>>> This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
> >>>> username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of the
> >>>> unit?
> >>> What difference would it make?
> >>> They must use some method of Authenticating the user, albiet it ESN,
> >>> login client or other method, it should really make no difference to
> >>> you.
> >> Sorry, but *whoosh*....
> >
> >
> > What don't you understand about that?
>
> You clearly missed the point of the question. You cannot change the ESN
> of the unit therefore if it authenticates against it you couldn't simply
> buy a PCMCIA card and use the cheaper desktop prices.
Of course you can change the ESN of the unit. Buy a new unit and do an ESN
change. How hard is that?
- 12-22-2005, 10:05 PM #20Guest
Re: Bigpond 1xEV-DO
Why would 1xRTT it cost more?? Also, 1xRTT connectivity is would be
resitricted to a geographical area as well.
- 12-23-2005, 04:37 AM #21KBGuest
Re: Bigpond 1xEV-DO
[email protected] wrote:
> Why would 1xRTT it cost more?? Also, 1xRTT connectivity is would be
> resitricted to a geographical area as well.
It costs more to the telco in terms of service quality since 1xRTT uses
the same channel as voice services. It's the same reason why GPRS costs
on GSM networks are very high since high GPRS use would leave fewer time
slots available for voice calls and subsequently cause network
congestion unless more cells/sectors are deployed.
1xRTT isn't restricted to a limited number of cell towers like EV-DO.
1xRTT has been deployed on almost every CDMA BTS in Australia since it
only required a software update on the newer equipment and a small
hardware change on the older CDMA base stations. EV-DO is limited in
coverage since it must be deployed on a separate channel which requires
new transmission hardware and multiplexers to be installed at each base
station.
- 12-23-2005, 05:04 AM #22John HendersonGuest
Re: Bigpond 1xEV-DO
KB wrote:
> It costs more to the telco in terms of service quality since
> 1xRTT uses the same channel as voice services. It's the same
> reason why GPRS costs on GSM networks are very high since high
> GPRS use would leave fewer time slots available for voice
> calls and subsequently cause network congestion unless more
> cells/sectors are deployed.
Don't GSM voice calls get absolute priority over GPRS packets?
AFIK, only spare slots are made available for GPRS. Someone
correct me if I'm wrong.
John
- 12-23-2005, 03:30 PM #23StevoGuest
Re: Bigpond 1xEV-DO
Tom Smyth wrote:
> "Stevo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> They use a username/password arrangement. I have one of each type of
>> modem and can log in through either modem using either username.
>>
>> Still awaiting a response from Bigpond as to why the PCMCIA modem
>> plan is more expensive than the powered modem version... seems to
>> me it shouldn't matter as you buy the modem/s outright to start with
>> and the service they use is the same?
>
> Hang on a sec....
>
> Using the PCMCIA card with the desktop log-in, does it roam to CDMA??
Yep...
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- 12-23-2005, 03:51 PM #24John HendersonGuest
Re: Bigpond 1xEV-DO
I wrote:
> Don't GSM voice calls get absolute priority over GPRS packets?
> AFIK, only spare slots are made available for GPRS.
Here's a reference: http://tinyurl.com/d62au
See under "How is GPRS different to normal data call?"
John
- 01-12-2006, 05:35 AM #25-= Spudley =-Guest
Re: Bigpond 1xEV-DO
]v[etaphoid wrote:
> "-= Spudley =-" <-= Spudley [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Kwyjibo wrote:
>>> "-= Spudley =-" <-= Spudley [email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]
>>>> Nick Adams wrote:
>>>>> -= Spudley =- wrote:
>>>>>> Tom Smyth wrote:
>>>>>>> "-= Spudley =-" <-= Spudley [email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>>> Tom Smyth wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and
>>>>>>>>> mobile (PCMCIA) plans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile
>>>>>>>>> plans cost twice as much.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
>>>>>>>>> username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of
>>>>>>>>> the unit?
>>>>>>>> What difference would it make?
>>>>>>>> They must use some method of Authenticating the user, albiet it
>>>>>>>> ESN, login client or other method, it should really make no
>>>>>>>> difference to you.
>>>>>>> Sorry, but *whoosh*....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What don't you understand about that?
>>>>>
>>>>> You clearly missed the point of the question. You cannot change
>>>>> the ESN of the unit therefore if it authenticates against it you
>>>>> couldn't simply buy a PCMCIA card and use the cheaper desktop
>>>>> prices.
>>>>
>>>> Then that point should have been stated and the reason for wanting
>>>> to know.
>>>
>>> Anyone with even half a brain could have figured it out.
>>>
>>>> My question / supposition based on the OP was a valid one.
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>
>> I can always trust the peanut gallery to have it's say.
>
>
Dredging up old posts now, Megapode, have you run out of new material to
feed your compulsive desire to sniff my arse?
- 01-12-2006, 06:13 AM #26]v[etaphoidGuest
Re: Bigpond 1xEV-DO
"-= Spudley =-" <-= Spudley =-@cun*20plus.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>>> Sorry, but *whoosh*....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What don't you understand about that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You clearly missed the point of the question. You cannot change
>>>>>> the ESN of the unit therefore if it authenticates against it you
>>>>>> couldn't simply buy a PCMCIA card and use the cheaper desktop
>>>>>> prices.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then that point should have been stated and the reason for wanting
>>>>> to know.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone with even half a brain could have figured it out.
>>>>
>>>>> My question / supposition based on the OP was a valid one.
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> I can always trust the peanut gallery to have it's say.
>
> Dredging up old posts now, Megapode, have you run out of new material to
> feed your compulsive desire to sniff my arse?
Why do you feel so compelled to reply to me, particularly if your offended
by the timing of my posts?
Do you love me Steven?
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- 01-12-2006, 09:46 AM #27-= Spudley =-Guest
Re: Bigpond 1xEV-DO
]v[etaphoid wrote:
> "-= Spudley =-" <-= Spudley =-@cun*20plus.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but *whoosh*....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What don't you understand about that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You clearly missed the point of the question. You cannot change
>>>>>>> the ESN of the unit therefore if it authenticates against it you
>>>>>>> couldn't simply buy a PCMCIA card and use the cheaper desktop
>>>>>>> prices.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then that point should have been stated and the reason for
>>>>>> wanting to know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone with even half a brain could have figured it out.
>>>>>
>>>>>> My question / supposition based on the OP was a valid one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>> I can always trust the peanut gallery to have it's say.
>>
>> Dredging up old posts now, Megapode, have you run out of new
>> material to feed your compulsive desire to sniff my arse?
>
>
> Why do you feel so compelled to reply to me, particularly if your
> offended by the timing of my posts?
>
You didn't answer my question.
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