Bigpond 1xEV-DO

Tom Smyth wrote:
> Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and mobile
> (PCMCIA) plans.
>
> The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile plans
> cost twice as much.
>
> This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
> username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of the unit?

What difference would it make?
They must use some method of Authenticating the user, albiet it ESN, login
client or other method, it should really make no difference to you.

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Tom Smyth wrote:
> Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and mobile
> (PCMCIA) plans.
>
> The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile plans
> cost twice as much.
>
> This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
> username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of the unit?

They use a username/password arrangement. I have one of each type of
modem and can log in through either modem using either username.

Still awaiting a response from Bigpond as to why the PCMCIA modem plan
is more expensive than the powered modem version... seems to me it
shouldn't matter as you buy the modem/s outright to start with and the
service they use is the same?

--
Stevo
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Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and mobile
(PCMCIA) plans.

The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile plans cost
twice as much.

This leads me to the question: Does the service use a username/password
authentication, or does it use the ESN of the unit?

Stevo wrote:
> Tom Smyth wrote:
>
>>Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and mobile
>>(PCMCIA) plans.
>>
>>The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile plans
>>cost twice as much.
>>
>>This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
>>username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of the unit?
>
>
> They use a username/password arrangement. I have one of each type of
> modem and can log in through either modem using either username.
>
> Still awaiting a response from Bigpond as to why the PCMCIA modem plan
> is more expensive than the powered modem version... seems to me it
> shouldn't matter as you buy the modem/s outright to start with and the
> service they use is the same?

The PCMCIA modems can use BOTH the EV-DO data only channels as well as
the 1xRTT channels on virtually every Telstra CDMA base station around
Australia. The 1xRTT service shares the same channel as CDMA voice
services and therefore to minimise congestion and over-utilisation of
the voice network the devices that use those channels are charged at a
premium that is equivalent to the Telstra mobile broadband pricing.
The PCMCIA device uses the same network as the Telstra Mobile broadband
service and subsequently charges an equivalent price.
Provision of EV-DO channels costs Telstra significantly less on a data
throughput basis than data access over the voice/1xRTT channels so they
offer plans that cost less for devices that are limited to the EV-DO
channels.

"Stevo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tom Smyth wrote:
>> Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and mobile
>> (PCMCIA) plans.
>>
>> The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile plans
>> cost twice as much.
>>
>> This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
>> username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of the unit?
>
> They use a username/password arrangement. I have one of each type of modem
> and can log in through either modem using either username.

Awesome. If I sign up on a desktop plan will they ask for an ESN and check
it's not a PCMCIA card?

> Still awaiting a response from Bigpond as to why the PCMCIA modem plan is
> more expensive than the powered modem version... seems to me it shouldn't
> matter as you buy the modem/s outright to start with and the service they
> use is the same?

The iburst response (same scenario) is that for the mobile plans you could
use any base station as you roam around, thus more upkeep costs etc etc
(???)

"Stevo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tom Smyth wrote:
>> Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and mobile
>> (PCMCIA) plans.
>>
>> The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile plans
>> cost twice as much.
>>
>> This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
>> username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of the unit?
>
> They use a username/password arrangement. I have one of each type of modem
> and can log in through either modem using either username.
>
> Still awaiting a response from Bigpond as to why the PCMCIA modem plan is
> more expensive than the powered modem version... seems to me it shouldn't
> matter as you buy the modem/s outright to start with and the service they
> use is the same?

Hang on a sec....

Using the PCMCIA card with the desktop log-in, does it roam to CDMA??

Tom Smyth wrote:
> "-= Spudley =-" <-= Spudley [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Tom Smyth wrote:
>>> Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and
>>> mobile (PCMCIA) plans.
>>>
>>> The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile plans
>>> cost twice as much.
>>>
>>> This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
>>> username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of the
>>> unit?
>>
>> What difference would it make?
>> They must use some method of Authenticating the user, albiet it ESN,
>> login client or other method, it should really make no difference to
>> you.
>
> Sorry, but *whoosh*....


What don't you understand about that?

-= Spudley =- wrote:
> Tom Smyth wrote:
>> "-= Spudley =-" <-= Spudley [email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Tom Smyth wrote:
>>>> Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and
>>>> mobile (PCMCIA) plans.
>>>>
>>>> The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile plans
>>>> cost twice as much.
>>>>
>>>> This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
>>>> username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of the
>>>> unit?
>>> What difference would it make?
>>> They must use some method of Authenticating the user, albiet it ESN,
>>> login client or other method, it should really make no difference to
>>> you.
>> Sorry, but *whoosh*....
>
>
> What don't you understand about that?

You clearly missed the point of the question. You cannot change the ESN
of the unit therefore if it authenticates against it you couldn't simply
buy a PCMCIA card and use the cheaper desktop prices.

"-= Spudley =-" <-= Spudley [email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tom Smyth wrote:
>> Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and mobile
>> (PCMCIA) plans.
>>
>> The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile plans
>> cost twice as much.
>>
>> This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
>> username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of the unit?
>
> What difference would it make?
> They must use some method of Authenticating the user, albiet it ESN, login
> client or other method, it should really make no difference to you.

Sorry, but *whoosh*....

Nick Adams wrote:
> -= Spudley =- wrote:
>> Tom Smyth wrote:
>>> "-= Spudley =-" <-= Spudley [email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Tom Smyth wrote:
>>>>> Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and
>>>>> mobile (PCMCIA) plans.
>>>>>
>>>>> The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile
>>>>> plans cost twice as much.
>>>>>
>>>>> This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
>>>>> username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of the
>>>>> unit?
>>>> What difference would it make?
>>>> They must use some method of Authenticating the user, albiet it
>>>> ESN, login client or other method, it should really make no
>>>> difference to you.
>>> Sorry, but *whoosh*....
>>
>>
>> What don't you understand about that?
>
> You clearly missed the point of the question. You cannot change the
> ESN of the unit therefore if it authenticates against it you couldn't
> simply buy a PCMCIA card and use the cheaper desktop prices.

Then that point should have been stated and the reason for wanting to know.
My question / supposition based on the OP was a valid one.

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:36:11 +1000, "Stevo"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Tom Smyth wrote:
>> Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and mobile
>> (PCMCIA) plans.
>>
>> The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile plans
>> cost twice as much.
>>
>> This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
>> username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of the unit?
>
>They use a username/password arrangement. I have one of each type of
>modem and can log in through either modem using either username.

Really? I use the Maxon USB device, there is no username or password
there..

>
>Still awaiting a response from Bigpond as to why the PCMCIA modem plan
>is more expensive than the powered modem version... seems to me it
>shouldn't matter as you buy the modem/s outright to start with and the
>service they use is the same?

That's your opinion. Their pricing mirrors that of some other Wireless
Broadand providers.

A User wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:36:11 +1000, "Stevo"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Tom Smyth wrote:
>>> Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and mobile
>>> (PCMCIA) plans.
>>>
>>> The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile plans
>>> cost twice as much.
>>>
>>> This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
>>> username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of the unit?
>> They use a username/password arrangement. I have one of each type of
>> modem and can log in through either modem using either username.
>
> Really? I use the Maxon USB device, there is no username or password
> there..

Isn't that a 1xRTT device ONLY? Not EV-DO? So a Telstra Mobile product
instead of a Telstra Bigpond product?

"-= Spudley =-" <-= Spudley [email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Nick Adams wrote:
>> -= Spudley =- wrote:
>>> Tom Smyth wrote:
>>>> "-= Spudley =-" <-= Spudley [email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Tom Smyth wrote:
>>>>>> Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and
>>>>>> mobile (PCMCIA) plans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile
>>>>>> plans cost twice as much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
>>>>>> username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of the
>>>>>> unit?
>>>>> What difference would it make?
>>>>> They must use some method of Authenticating the user, albiet it
>>>>> ESN, login client or other method, it should really make no
>>>>> difference to you.
>>>> Sorry, but *whoosh*....
>>>
>>>
>>> What don't you understand about that?
>>
>> You clearly missed the point of the question. You cannot change the
>> ESN of the unit therefore if it authenticates against it you couldn't
>> simply buy a PCMCIA card and use the cheaper desktop prices.
>
> Then that point should have been stated and the reason for wanting to
> know.

Anyone with even half a brain could have figured it out.

> My question / supposition based on the OP was a valid one.

Nope.

--
Kwyj

Nick Adams wrote:
> A User wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:36:11 +1000, "Stevo"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Tom Smyth wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and mobile
>>>> (PCMCIA) plans.
>>>>
>>>> The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile plans
>>>> cost twice as much.
>>>>
>>>> This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
>>>> username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of the unit?
>>>
>>> They use a username/password arrangement. I have one of each type of
>>> modem and can log in through either modem using either username.
>>
>>
>> Really? I use the Maxon USB device, there is no username or password
>> there..
>
>
> Isn't that a 1xRTT device ONLY? Not EV-DO? So a Telstra Mobile product
> instead of a Telstra Bigpond product?

No, you must be thinking about the Maxon Minimax device that is 1xRTT
only. The BigPond desktop modem is a Maxon USB modem that is EV-DO only.

Kwyjibo wrote:
> "-= Spudley =-" <-= Spudley [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> Nick Adams wrote:
>>> -= Spudley =- wrote:
>>>> Tom Smyth wrote:
>>>>> "-= Spudley =-" <-= Spudley [email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> Tom Smyth wrote:
>>>>>>> Bigpond offers 1xEV-DO on desktop (standalone modem) plans and
>>>>>>> mobile (PCMCIA) plans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The desktop plans are quite reasonably priced, but the mobile
>>>>>>> plans cost twice as much.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This leads me to the question: Does the service use a
>>>>>>> username/password authentication, or does it use the ESN of the
>>>>>>> unit?
>>>>>> What difference would it make?
>>>>>> They must use some method of Authenticating the user, albiet it
>>>>>> ESN, login client or other method, it should really make no
>>>>>> difference to you.
>>>>> Sorry, but *whoosh*....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What don't you understand about that?
>>>
>>> You clearly missed the point of the question. You cannot change the
>>> ESN of the unit therefore if it authenticates against it you
>>> couldn't simply buy a PCMCIA card and use the cheaper desktop
>>> prices.
>>
>> Then that point should have been stated and the reason for wanting to
>> know.
>
> Anyone with even half a brain could have figured it out.
>
>> My question / supposition based on the OP was a valid one.
>
> Nope.

I can always trust the peanut gallery to have it's say.