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  1. #1
    Daniel Bowen
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    Not sure if this has been posted yet (I haven't been reading during my
    break) but if you received an unexpected lame Christmas joke by SMS, check
    your phone bill... it probably cost you $3.50. I got two, and sure enough my
    bill arrived today including $7.00 of charges for it, so I'll be ringing my
    provider tomorrow.

    Much info in the Whirlpool thread:
    http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...s.cfm?t=446360


    Daniel
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    Daniel Bowen
    Melbourne, Australia
    http://www.danielbowen.com/





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  2. #2
    Michael
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    Re: Christmas joke SMS scam


    "Daniel Bowen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:43b[email protected]
    > Not sure if this has been posted yet (I haven't been reading during my
    > break) but if you received an unexpected lame Christmas joke by SMS, check
    > your phone bill... it probably cost you $3.50. I got two, and sure enough

    my
    > bill arrived today including $7.00 of charges for it, so I'll be ringing

    my
    > provider tomorrow.


    You ring the "content provider" of the SMS listed on your bill, not your
    mobile service provider





  3. #3
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Christmas joke SMS scam


    "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Daniel Bowen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    > > Not sure if this has been posted yet (I haven't been reading during my
    > > break) but if you received an unexpected lame Christmas joke by SMS,

    check
    > > your phone bill... it probably cost you $3.50. I got two, and sure

    enough
    > my
    > > bill arrived today including $7.00 of charges for it, so I'll be ringing

    > my
    > > provider tomorrow.

    >
    > You ring the "content provider" of the SMS listed on your bill, not your
    > mobile service provider


    I read the Whirlpool web site, quite interesting.

    I'm interested in the number quarantine situation . . . if I subscribe and
    then get disconnected . . . it is claimed that the SMSes will continue and
    the next owner will eb charged. Wonder if that is true. I suspect so





  4. #4
    Kwyjibo
    Guest

    Re: Christmas joke SMS scam

    "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > "Daniel Bowen" <[email protected]> wrote in
    > message news:[email protected]
    >> Not sure if this has been posted yet (I haven't been reading during
    >> my break) but if you received an unexpected lame Christmas joke by
    >> SMS, check your phone bill... it probably cost you $3.50. I got two,
    >> and sure enough my bill arrived today including $7.00 of charges for
    >> it, so I'll be ringing my provider tomorrow.

    >
    > You ring the "content provider" of the SMS listed on your bill, not
    > your mobile service provider


    Funny how the TIO don't see it that way, and rightly so.


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    Kwyj





  5. #5
    Kwyjibo
    Guest

    Re: Christmas joke SMS scam

    "Horace Wachope ." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 19:38:32 +1100, Kwyjibo wrote:
    >
    >> "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >>> "Daniel Bowen" <[email protected]> wrote in
    >>> message news:[email protected]
    >>>> Not sure if this has been posted yet (I haven't been reading during
    >>>> my break) but if you received an unexpected lame Christmas joke by
    >>>> SMS, check your phone bill... it probably cost you $3.50. I got
    >>>> two, and sure enough my bill arrived today including $7.00 of
    >>>> charges for it, so I'll be ringing my provider tomorrow.
    >>>
    >>> You ring the "content provider" of the SMS listed on your bill, not
    >>> your mobile service provider

    >>
    >> Funny how the TIO don't see it that way, and rightly so.

    >
    > And funny how the law doesn't see it Michael's way either.



    And even funnier how people with an IQ above 30 never see anything Michael's
    way.

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    Kwyj





  6. #6
    budgie
    Guest

    Re: Christmas joke SMS scam

    On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 21:59:46 +1100, "Kwyjibo" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >"Horace Wachope ." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]
    >> On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 19:38:32 +1100, Kwyjibo wrote:
    >>
    >>> "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:[email protected]
    >>>> "Daniel Bowen" <[email protected]> wrote in
    >>>> message news:[email protected]
    >>>>> Not sure if this has been posted yet (I haven't been reading during
    >>>>> my break) but if you received an unexpected lame Christmas joke by
    >>>>> SMS, check your phone bill... it probably cost you $3.50. I got
    >>>>> two, and sure enough my bill arrived today including $7.00 of
    >>>>> charges for it, so I'll be ringing my provider tomorrow.
    >>>>
    >>>> You ring the "content provider" of the SMS listed on your bill, not
    >>>> your mobile service provider
    >>>
    >>> Funny how the TIO don't see it that way, and rightly so.

    >>
    >> And funny how the law doesn't see it Michael's way either.

    >
    >
    >And even funnier how people with an IQ above 30 never see anything Michael's
    >way.


    Crikey! Are you inferring the law has an IQ >30?



  7. #7
    Mike
    Guest

    Re: Christmas joke SMS scam

    Michael wrote:
    > You ring the "content provider" of the SMS listed on your bill, not your
    > mobile service provider


    Bollocks. They are the scammers.
    If your phone company doesn't sort it immediately, call the TIO.
    It worked for me. Don't waste your time.





  8. #8
    Dean Collins
    Guest

    Re: Christmas joke SMS scam

    yep, this is what the TIO is set up for. With only 4 carriers the should
    have pulled this immediately as a scam and then had the carriers do a bulk
    refund.

    this messing around is bull****.

    Dean


    "Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Michael wrote:
    >> You ring the "content provider" of the SMS listed on your bill, not your
    >> mobile service provider

    >
    > Bollocks. They are the scammers.
    > If your phone company doesn't sort it immediately, call the TIO.
    > It worked for me. Don't waste your time.
    >
    >






  9. #9
    Daniel Bowen
    Guest

    Re: Christmas joke SMS scam

    "Simon Templar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Daniel Bowen wrote:
    >> My mobile provider billed me. The bill contains a billing enquiries
    >> number. The information on the bill contained no information about how to
    >> contact the content provider (which remember, I didn't request). All it
    >> had was: "2 19900025 MT $7.00".
    >>
    >> So I rang the mobile provider. They credited the $7 back to my account,
    >> and gave me contact details for the content provider.
    >>
    >> Daniel

    >
    > Maybe the details of the content provider should be posted here so they
    > get the message that ripping people off will not be tolerated.


    There's a couple of different companies involved, as one provided the SMS
    services for another. Sorry I don't have the direct link/details handy just
    now, but the Whirlpool thread on this topic makes for interesting reading...
    if you look through it, they tracked the culprits down.

    http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...s.cfm?t=446360


    Daniel
    --
    Daniel Bowen
    Melbourne, Australia
    http://www.danielbowen.com/





  10. #10
    MJT
    Guest

    Re: Christmas joke SMS scam

    Daniel said....

    > My mobile provider billed me. The bill contains a billing enquiries
    > number. The information on the bill contained no information about how
    > to contact the content provider (which remember, I didn't request). All
    > it had was: "2 19900025 MT $7.00".


    I'm coming into this thread late. I'm curious as to how you can receive
    an unsolicited message and then be charged for it.

    Or am I reading this wrong? If so, what's the go here?



    --
    I think that God in creating man somewhat overestimated his ability.



  11. #11
    Daniel Bowen
    Guest

    Re: Christmas joke SMS scam

    "MJT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Daniel said....
    >> My mobile provider billed me. The bill contains a billing enquiries
    >> number. The information on the bill contained no information about how
    >> to contact the content provider (which remember, I didn't request). All
    >> it had was: "2 19900025 MT $7.00".

    >
    > I'm coming into this thread late. I'm curious as to how you can receive
    > an unsolicited message and then be charged for it.
    >
    > Or am I reading this wrong? If so, what's the go here?


    Nup, you got it. Weakness of the premium SMS system, I'd say.

    Full details/more reading:
    http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...s.cfm?t=446360


    Daniel
    --
    Daniel Bowen
    Melbourne, Australia
    http://www.danielbowen.com/





  12. #12
    Dean Collins
    Guest

    Re: Christmas joke SMS scam

    Premium is an opt-in only service....this company will be closed down and
    prosecuted unless they can document and produce where people have opted-in
    for this service.

    the weakness is that the TIO aren't taking the carriers to task over the
    fact they are shirking responsibility.

    keep pluging guys and lets not throw out the baby with the bathwater as
    premium sms is a great technology.

    Dean


    "Daniel Bowen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > "MJT" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> Daniel said....
    >>> My mobile provider billed me. The bill contains a billing enquiries
    >>> number. The information on the bill contained no information about how
    >>> to contact the content provider (which remember, I didn't request). All
    >>> it had was: "2 19900025 MT $7.00".

    >>
    >> I'm coming into this thread late. I'm curious as to how you can receive
    >> an unsolicited message and then be charged for it.
    >>
    >> Or am I reading this wrong? If so, what's the go here?

    >
    > Nup, you got it. Weakness of the premium SMS system, I'd say.
    >
    > Full details/more reading:
    > http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...s.cfm?t=446360
    >
    >
    > Daniel
    > --
    > Daniel Bowen
    > Melbourne, Australia
    > http://www.danielbowen.com/
    >
    >






  13. #13
    MJT
    Guest

    Re: Christmas joke SMS scam

    Daniel Bowen wrote:

    >> Or am I reading this wrong? If so, what's the go here?

    >
    > Nup, you got it. Weakness of the premium SMS system, I'd say.
    >
    > Full details/more reading:
    > http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...s.cfm?t=446360


    Ah, yes. I got the same message on 22nd Dec, too.

    And I just checked my account via the online service and "calls yet to
    be billed"

    22 Dec 05:30 pm MWAYTS Add 19900025 to my personal
    address book 19900025 MT 00:00:00 3.18 3.50

    Total for 04xx xxxxxx $3.18 $3.50

    Yep, the pricks stung me for $3.50.



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    Women get minks the same way minks get minks.



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