Auto date / time update

On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, at 04:38:58 [GMT +1100] (04:38:58 Tuesday, 17 January
2006 where I live) "Simon Templar" wrote:

> I have been told that the GSM protocol was designed with borders
> specifically in mind, as in Europe some countries don't want signals
> going over the border into neighbouring countries. With the time
> division they can apparently selected the distance to what the cell can
> go out to very accurately.

As in Hong Kong / China.

half way across the bridge at Lo Wu, (on the border between Honkers & China)
the carrier switches to whatever country you are entering.

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Jeremy Quirke wrote:

> Telstra is sending the full univesal time IE which includes
> the time zone IE. Furthermore, the time is correct pretty much
> to the second.
>
> Perhaps your equipment only regards the timezone?

Looks like it, Siemens S55 and C45 are both behaving that way.

Thanks,

John

"Jack Mitchell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Seems that auto date / time update has been introduced onto Telstra GSM
> recently.
>
> Anyone else noticed this?
>
>

About 50 times over the last week
<rolls eyes>

"Simon Templar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Dogfart wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, at 01:33:56 [GMT GMT] (12:33:56 Monday, 16 January
2006
> > where I live) "Jack Mitchell" wrote:
> >
> >>Seems that auto date / time update has been introduced onto Telstra GSM
> >>recently.
> >
> > Would only work if a setting you have allows for this?
>
> From what I have read this feature also only works when you change
> cells or turn your phone off and back on.

And how many people dont change cells?
Whats your point?

"Jeremy Quirke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Simon Templar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Dogfart wrote:
> >> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, at 01:33:56 [GMT GMT] (12:33:56 Monday, 16 January
> >> 2006
> >> where I live) "Jack Mitchell" wrote:
> >>
> >>>Seems that auto date / time update has been introduced onto Telstra GSM
> >>>recently.
> >>
> >> Would only work if a setting you have allows for this?
> >
> > From what I have read this feature also only works when you change cells
> > or turn your phone off and back on.
> >
> >
> > --
> > 73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
>
> Well the date/time/timezone is encoded in the MM INFORMATION message,
which
> may be sent by the network at any time during an RR connection, according
to
> GSM 04.08. It appears with M-NET it is sent at least at IMSI attach (and
> probably at all location update - IMSI attach is just a form of location
> update really. And this makes sense, as it allows mobile stations to cross
> state borders). Interestingly, I wonder how this works at say, Tweed
Heads.

The same as it does with phone calls

"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Simon Templar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Dogfart wrote:
>> > On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, at 01:33:56 [GMT GMT] (12:33:56 Monday, 16 January
> 2006
>> > where I live) "Jack Mitchell" wrote:
>> >
>> >>Seems that auto date / time update has been introduced onto Telstra GSM
>> >>recently.
>> >
>> > Would only work if a setting you have allows for this?
>>
>> From what I have read this feature also only works when you change
>> cells or turn your phone off and back on.
>
> And how many people dont change cells?
> Whats your point?
>

Well it's incorrect anyway, there is no activity on cell reselection, except
in an inter-LAC cell reselection.

"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Jeremy Quirke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Simon Templar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> > Dogfart wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, at 01:33:56 [GMT GMT] (12:33:56 Monday, 16
>> >> January
>> >> 2006
>> >> where I live) "Jack Mitchell" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Seems that auto date / time update has been introduced onto Telstra
>> >>>GSM
>> >>>recently.
>> >>
>> >> Would only work if a setting you have allows for this?
>> >
>> > From what I have read this feature also only works when you change
>> > cells
>> > or turn your phone off and back on.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > 73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
>>
>> Well the date/time/timezone is encoded in the MM INFORMATION message,
> which
>> may be sent by the network at any time during an RR connection, according
> to
>> GSM 04.08. It appears with M-NET it is sent at least at IMSI attach (and
>> probably at all location update - IMSI attach is just a form of location
>> update really. And this makes sense, as it allows mobile stations to
>> cross
>> state borders). Interestingly, I wonder how this works at say, Tweed
> Heads.
>
> The same as it does with phone calls
>
Care to share?

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 01:33:56 +0000, Jack Mitchell wrote:

> Seems that auto date / time update has been introduced onto Telstra GSM
> recently.

What i want to know is why has telstra only just started providing this
service? If there's no problem doing it now, what was the problem before?

i turned it on my Three mobile and it is one hour out, doesn't have
daylight saving time correction. (Nokia N70)

Jeremy Quirke wrote:

> particularly since my Nokia's backup battery seems to have failed and
> therefore it forgets the time when the battery is removed.

Is that the 6230 you're referring to? My backup battery in mine hasn't
worked since day one

"Albinus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Jeremy Quirke wrote:
>
>> particularly since my Nokia's backup battery seems to have failed and
>> therefore it forgets the time when the battery is removed.
>
> Is that the 6230 you're referring to? My backup battery in mine hasn't
> worked since day one

That would be the one. Mine died just after the warranty finished.

On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, at 23:44:42 [GMT +1100] (23:44:42 Monday, 16 January
2006 where I live) "Simon Templar" wrote:

>> Would only work if a setting you have allows for this?

> From what I have read this feature also only works when you change
> cells or turn your phone off and back on.

BTW if you have a Palm Treo 650 it may pay to think twice before you allow
this "feature".

According to some discussion groups the Treo may handle the changes
incorrectly, thus stuffing up your calender.

I had it on (unknown to myself) and when I went to Los Angeles couldn't work
out why the time on my phone showed local and my diary was one day behind
(Oz time) so I unfortunately missed a few things I should have done.

However this is not the bug reported on the Treo discussion group - seemed
to be something far more serious than that - screwing up everything IIRC.