A Creep who SMS Spammed me. Here are his details...

Josh B <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be a bad idea to complain to Trading Post
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well since these spammers are abusing the site and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> annoying customers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What could the TP, possibly do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make everyone jump through a couple of hoops before the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> number is shown on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen. Wouldn't stop the spammers, but it would slow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them down a I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goes to show how out of date I am.....thought the TP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a paper. If this was a perfect world, we,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably, wouldn't be in it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't know for sure that it was TP that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they got my number from. The message came from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +19773366, which doesn't mean anything to me. Anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here have any ideas? There is also a 130065970 number,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is incomplete, for help. Anyone have any thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on how to find the missing number?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I now have the name and contact telephone for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spammer. What can I do about it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who do I report them to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No one. What they have done aint illegal, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is spamming now legal, Rod?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving it
>>>>>>>>> unsolicited.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Incorrect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you never heard of Premium SMS (MT messages)?
>>>>
>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends
>>>>>> you one, after they get the number out of the TP, ****wit.
>>>>
>>>>> You need to read more in Whirlpool, Rod.'
>>>>
>>>> It aint called Whirlfool for nuffin, you silly little dunny
>>>> cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>
>>>>> There has been a recent dodge with a crooked content provider
>>>>> sending Premium SMS MT messages and many customers have been stung
>>>>
>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends you one,
>>>> after they get the number out of the TP, you silly little dunny
>>>> cleaning ****wit child.
>>
>>> Aside from the fact that you said to just ignore it
>>
>> I just said ignore the SMS, not ignore any CHARGE for it.

> But you said:

>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?

>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving it unsolicited.

> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore it.

>>> and now say to complain to your carrier Rod,

>> I never ever said anything like that.

> How do you propose he doesn't pay the PRSMS cost then?

Get the mobile telco to remove it and if they are stupid enough
to refuse to do that, use the TIO to make them do that.

> Minus the cost from his bill every month for the rest of their life?

Wot if he doesnt actually have a life ?

>>> it's fairly unlikely that this guy is getting much revenue unless he
>>> is freakishly guessing the carriers that all of these people are on.

>> God knows what this crap is about.

> It's fairly clear.

No it isnt.

> You know that you can't tell which carrier someone
> is with from their number these days, don't you?

How is that relevant to what is being discussed ?

>>> MT billing only works on-net.

>> Irrelevant to what was being discussed.

> I know. It was an added point to the argument. Perhaps
> it won't appear on his bill after all if it wasn't sent on-net.

Or maybe that's just plain wrong.

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› See More: A Creep who SMS Spammed me. Here are his details...

"Josh B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:23:05 +1030, (or one of their many personalities)
> said......
>
>
>> > Unfortunately I don't know for sure that it was TP that they got my
>> > number
>> > from. The message came from +19773366, which doesn't mean anything to
>> > me.
>> > Anyone here have any ideas? There is also a 130065970 number, which is
>> > incomplete, for help. Anyone have any thoughts on how to find the
>> > missing
>> > number?
>>
>> OK, I now have the name and contact telephone for the spammer.
>
> Who is the service provider?

The more relevant information is contained in the whirlpool link.

Rod (NOT Speed)

Josh B <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:54:04 +1100, Rod Speed (or one of their many
> personalities) said......
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be a bad idea to complain to Trading Post as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well since these spammers are abusing the site and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> annoying customers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What could the TP, possibly do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Make everyone jump through a couple of hoops before the
>>>>>>>>>>>> number is shown on
>>>>>>>>>>>> screen. Wouldn't stop the spammers, but it would slow them
>>>>>>>>>>>> down a I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Goes to show how out of date I am.....thought the TP was a
>>>>>>>>>>> paper. If this was a perfect world, we, probably,
>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be in it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't know for sure that it was TP that they
>>>>>>>>>> got my number from. The message came from +19773366, which
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't mean anything to me. Anyone here have any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>> There is also a 130065970 number, which is incomplete, for
>>>>>>>>>> help. Anyone have any thoughts on how to find the missing
>>>>>>>>>> number?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK, I now have the name and contact telephone for the spammer.
>>>>>>>>> What can I do about it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Absolutely nothing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who do I report them to?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No one. What they have done aint illegal, stupid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is spamming now legal, Rod?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What he did has never been illegal.
>>>>
>>>>> How come carsales.com.au were found in breech of the Spam Act
>>>>> and fined for doing something like this a few months ago?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.smh.com.au/news/Technolog...d-for-sending-
>>>>> spam/2005/04/05/1112489491022.html
>>>>
>>>> Different matter entirely.
>>
>>> Er, why?
>>
>>> They harvested phone numbers from "classified advertisements" to
>>> advertise a commercial service. If anything, carsales.com.au are
>>> more in the right than this guy because they were selling a related
>>> service.
>>
>> Pathetic, really.
>
> Come on Rod, haven't had an argument with you for years and you've
> already given up!

Pathetic, really.

Josh B <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:57:22 +1100, Rod Speed (or one of their many
> personalities) said......
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be a bad idea to complain to Trading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Post as well since these spammers are abusing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site and annoying customers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What could the TP, possibly do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make everyone jump through a couple of hoops before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the number is shown on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen. Wouldn't stop the spammers, but it would slow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them down a I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goes to show how out of date I am.....thought the TP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a paper. If this was a perfect world, we,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably, wouldn't be in it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't know for sure that it was TP that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they got my number from. The message came from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +19773366, which doesn't mean anything to me. Anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here have any ideas? There is also a 130065970 number,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is incomplete, for help. Anyone have any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thoughts on how to find the missing number?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I now have the name and contact telephone for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spammer. What can I do about it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who do I report them to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one. What they have done aint illegal, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is spamming now legal, Rod?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving it
>>>>>>>>>>> unsolicited.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Incorrect.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Correct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have you never heard of Premium SMS (MT messages)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends
>>>>>>>> you one, after they get the number out of the TP, ****wit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need to read more in Whirlpool, Rod.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It aint called Whirlfool for nuffin, you silly little dunny
>>>>>> cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There has been a recent dodge with a crooked content provider
>>>>>>> sending Premium SMS MT messages and many customers have been
>>>>>>> stung
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends you one,
>>>>>> after they get the number out of the TP, you silly little dunny
>>>>>> cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>
>>>>> Aside from the fact that you said to just ignore it
>>>>
>>>> I just said ignore the SMS, not ignore any CHARGE for it.
>>
>>> But you said:
>>
>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>
>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving it
>>>> unsolicited.
>>
>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore it.
>>
>>>>> and now say to complain to your carrier Rod,
>>
>>>> I never ever said anything like that.
>>
>>> How do you propose he doesn't pay the PRSMS cost then?
>>
>> Get the mobile telco to remove it and if they are stupid enough
>> to refuse to do that, use the TIO to make them do that.

> IE, complain to the carrier?

You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist ****wit children ?

>>> Minus the cost from his bill every month for the rest of their life?

>> Wot if he doesnt actually have a life ?

> He could move in with you!

Pathetic, really.

>>>>> it's fairly unlikely that this guy is getting much revenue unless
>>>>> he is freakishly guessing the carriers that all of these people
>>>>> are on.
>>
>>>> God knows what this crap is about.
>>
>>> It's fairly clear.
>>
>> No it isnt.

> Yes it is.

No it isnt.

>>> You know that you can't tell which carrier someone
>>> is with from their number these days, don't you?

>> How is that relevant to what is being discussed ?

> See below.

Completely useless, as always.

>>>>> MT billing only works on-net.

>>>> Irrelevant to what was being discussed.

>>> I know. It was an added point to the argument. Perhaps
>>> it won't appear on his bill after all if it wasn't sent on-net.

>> Or maybe that's just plain wrong.

> Nope, sorree.

Pathetic, really.

Josh B <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:41:21 +1100, Rod Speed (or one of their many
> personalities) said......
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be a bad idea to complain to Trading Post
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well since these spammers are abusing the site and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> annoying customers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What could the TP, possibly do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make everyone jump through a couple of hoops before the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> number is shown on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen. Wouldn't stop the spammers, but it would slow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them down a I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goes to show how out of date I am.....thought the TP was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> paper. If this was a perfect world, we, probably,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be in it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't know for sure that it was TP that
>>>>>>>>>>>> they got my number from. The message came from +19773366,
>>>>>>>>>>>> which doesn't mean anything to me. Anyone here have any
>>>>>>>>>>>> ideas? There is also a 130065970 number, which is
>>>>>>>>>>>> incomplete, for help. Anyone have any thoughts on how to
>>>>>>>>>>>> find the missing number?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I now have the name and contact telephone for the
>>>>>>>>>>> spammer. What can I do about it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Who do I report them to?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No one. What they have done aint illegal, stupid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is spamming now legal, Rod?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What he did has never been illegal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How come carsales.com.au were found in breech of the Spam Act
>>>>>>> and fined for doing something like this a few months ago?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.smh.com.au/news/Technolog...d-for-sending-
>>>>>>> spam/2005/04/05/1112489491022.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Different matter entirely.
>>>>
>>>>> Er, why?
>>>>
>>>>> They harvested phone numbers from "classified advertisements" to
>>>>> advertise a commercial service. If anything, carsales.com.au are
>>>>> more in the right than this guy because they were selling a
>>>>> related service.
>>>>
>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>>
>>> Come on Rod, haven't had an argument with you for years and you've
>>> already given up!
>>
>> Pathetic, really.
>
> True, true.
>
> Ah well, it was fun while it lasted.

Pathetic, really.

Josh B <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:43:41 +1100, Rod Speed (or one of their many
> personalities) said......
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be a bad idea to complain to Trading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Post as well since these spammers are abusing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site and annoying customers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What could the TP, possibly do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make everyone jump through a couple of hoops before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the number is shown on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen. Wouldn't stop the spammers, but it would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow them down a I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goes to show how out of date I am.....thought the TP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a paper. If this was a perfect world, we,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably, wouldn't be in it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't know for sure that it was TP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they got my number from. The message came from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +19773366, which doesn't mean anything to me. Anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here have any ideas? There is also a 130065970
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> number, which is incomplete, for help. Anyone have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any thoughts on how to find the missing number?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I now have the name and contact telephone for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spammer. What can I do about it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who do I report them to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one. What they have done aint illegal, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is spamming now legal, Rod?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsolicited.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Incorrect.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Correct.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Have you never heard of Premium SMS (MT messages)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends
>>>>>>>>>> you one, after they get the number out of the TP, ****wit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You need to read more in Whirlpool, Rod.'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It aint called Whirlfool for nuffin, you silly little dunny
>>>>>>>> cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There has been a recent dodge with a crooked content provider
>>>>>>>>> sending Premium SMS MT messages and many customers have been
>>>>>>>>> stung
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends you
>>>>>>>> one, after they get the number out of the TP, you silly little
>>>>>>>> dunny cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aside from the fact that you said to just ignore it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just said ignore the SMS, not ignore any CHARGE for it.
>>>>
>>>>> But you said:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>
>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving it
>>>>>> unsolicited.
>>>>
>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore it.
>>>>
>>>>>>> and now say to complain to your carrier Rod,
>>>>
>>>>>> I never ever said anything like that.
>>>>
>>>>> How do you propose he doesn't pay the PRSMS cost then?
>>>>
>>>> Get the mobile telco to remove it and if they are stupid enough
>>>> to refuse to do that, use the TIO to make them do that.
>>
>>> IE, complain to the carrier?
>>
>> You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist ****wit
>> children ?
>
> In that case, care to explain how you "never ever said anything like"
> complaining to the carrier, Rod?
>
>>>>> Minus the cost from his bill every month for the rest of their
>>>>> life?
>>
>>>> Wot if he doesnt actually have a life ?
>>
>>> He could move in with you!
>>
>> Pathetic, really.
>
> Indeed.
>
>>>>>>> it's fairly unlikely that this guy is getting much revenue
>>>>>>> unless he is freakishly guessing the carriers that all of these
>>>>>>> people are on.
>>>>
>>>>>> God knows what this crap is about.
>>>>
>>>>> It's fairly clear.
>>>>
>>>> No it isnt.
>>
>>> Yes it is.
>>
>> No it isnt.
>
> Sorree, tis.
>
>>>>> You know that you can't tell which carrier someone
>>>>> is with from their number these days, don't you?
>>
>>>> How is that relevant to what is being discussed ?
>>
>>> See below.
>>
>> Completely useless, as always.
>>
>>>>>>> MT billing only works on-net.
>>
>>>>>> Irrelevant to what was being discussed.
>>
>>>>> I know. It was an added point to the argument. Perhaps
>>>>> it won't appear on his bill after all if it wasn't sent on-net.
>>
>>>> Or maybe that's just plain wrong.
>>
>>> Nope, sorree.
>>
>> Pathetic, really.

> I note you haven't actually said I was wrong, just "or maybe". That's
> commendable, Rod.

Pathetic, really.

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Josh B <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:43:41 +1100, Rod Speed (or one of their many
>> personalities) said......
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be a bad idea to complain to Trading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Post as well since these spammers are abusing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site and annoying customers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What could the TP, possibly do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make everyone jump through a couple of hoops before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the number is shown on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen. Wouldn't stop the spammers, but it would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow them down a I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goes to show how out of date I am.....thought the TP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was a paper. If this was a perfect world, we,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably, wouldn't be in it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't know for sure that it was TP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they got my number from. The message came from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +19773366, which doesn't mean anything to me. Anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here have any ideas? There is also a 130065970
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> number, which is incomplete, for help. Anyone have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any thoughts on how to find the missing number?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I now have the name and contact telephone for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spammer. What can I do about it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who do I report them to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one. What they have done aint illegal, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is spamming now legal, Rod?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsolicited.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Incorrect.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you never heard of Premium SMS (MT messages)?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends
>>>>>>>>>>> you one, after they get the number out of the TP, ****wit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You need to read more in Whirlpool, Rod.'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It aint called Whirlfool for nuffin, you silly little dunny
>>>>>>>>> cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There has been a recent dodge with a crooked content provider
>>>>>>>>>> sending Premium SMS MT messages and many customers have been
>>>>>>>>>> stung
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends you
>>>>>>>>> one, after they get the number out of the TP, you silly little
>>>>>>>>> dunny cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aside from the fact that you said to just ignore it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just said ignore the SMS, not ignore any CHARGE for it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But you said:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving it
>>>>>>> unsolicited.
>>>>>
>>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and now say to complain to your carrier Rod,
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I never ever said anything like that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you propose he doesn't pay the PRSMS cost then?
>>>>>
>>>>> Get the mobile telco to remove it and if they are stupid enough
>>>>> to refuse to do that, use the TIO to make them do that.
>>>
>>>> IE, complain to the carrier?
>>>
>>> You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist ****wit
>>> children ?
>>
>> In that case, care to explain how you "never ever said anything like"
>> complaining to the carrier, Rod?
>>
>>>>>> Minus the cost from his bill every month for the rest of their
>>>>>> life?
>>>
>>>>> Wot if he doesnt actually have a life ?
>>>
>>>> He could move in with you!
>>>
>>> Pathetic, really.
>>
>> Indeed.
>>
>>>>>>>> it's fairly unlikely that this guy is getting much revenue
>>>>>>>> unless he is freakishly guessing the carriers that all of these
>>>>>>>> people are on.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> God knows what this crap is about.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's fairly clear.
>>>>>
>>>>> No it isnt.
>>>
>>>> Yes it is.
>>>
>>> No it isnt.
>>
>> Sorree, tis.
>>
>>>>>> You know that you can't tell which carrier someone
>>>>>> is with from their number these days, don't you?
>>>
>>>>> How is that relevant to what is being discussed ?
>>>
>>>> See below.
>>>
>>> Completely useless, as always.
>>>
>>>>>>>> MT billing only works on-net.
>>>
>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what was being discussed.
>>>
>>>>>> I know. It was an added point to the argument. Perhaps
>>>>>> it won't appear on his bill after all if it wasn't sent on-net.
>>>
>>>>> Or maybe that's just plain wrong.
>>>
>>>> Nope, sorree.
>>>
>>> Pathetic, really.
>
>> I note you haven't actually said I was wrong, just "or maybe". That's
>> commendable, Rod.
>
> Pathetic, really.

Hey, I think Rod is a broken record.
>
>
>

Rod <rodlg000ATyahooDOTcom> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Josh B <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:43:41 +1100, Rod Speed (or one of their many
>>> personalities) said......
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be a bad idea to complain to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trading Post as well since these spammers are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abusing the site and annoying customers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What could the TP, possibly do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make everyone jump through a couple of hoops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the number is shown on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen. Wouldn't stop the spammers, but it would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow them down a I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goes to show how out of date I am.....thought the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TP was a paper. If this was a perfect world,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we, probably, wouldn't be in it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't know for sure that it was TP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they got my number from. The message came
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from +19773366, which doesn't mean anything to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone here have any ideas? There is also a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 130065970 number, which is incomplete, for help. Anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have any thoughts on how to find the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing number?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I now have the name and contact telephone for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the spammer. What can I do about it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who do I report them to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one. What they have done aint illegal, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is spamming now legal, Rod?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsolicited.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Incorrect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you never heard of Premium SMS (MT messages)?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends
>>>>>>>>>>>> you one, after they get the number out of the TP, ****wit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You need to read more in Whirlpool, Rod.'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It aint called Whirlfool for nuffin, you silly little dunny
>>>>>>>>>> cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There has been a recent dodge with a crooked content
>>>>>>>>>>> provider sending Premium SMS MT messages and many customers
>>>>>>>>>>> have been stung
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends you
>>>>>>>>>> one, after they get the number out of the TP, you silly
>>>>>>>>>> little dunny cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aside from the fact that you said to just ignore it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I just said ignore the SMS, not ignore any CHARGE for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But you said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving it
>>>>>>>> unsolicited.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and now say to complain to your carrier Rod,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I never ever said anything like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you propose he doesn't pay the PRSMS cost then?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get the mobile telco to remove it and if they are stupid enough
>>>>>> to refuse to do that, use the TIO to make them do that.
>>>>
>>>>> IE, complain to the carrier?
>>>>
>>>> You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist ****wit
>>>> children ?
>>>
>>> In that case, care to explain how you "never ever said anything
>>> like" complaining to the carrier, Rod?
>>>
>>>>>>> Minus the cost from his bill every month for the rest of their
>>>>>>> life?
>>>>
>>>>>> Wot if he doesnt actually have a life ?
>>>>
>>>>> He could move in with you!
>>>>
>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>>
>>> Indeed.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> it's fairly unlikely that this guy is getting much revenue
>>>>>>>>> unless he is freakishly guessing the carriers that all of
>>>>>>>>> these people are on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> God knows what this crap is about.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's fairly clear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No it isnt.
>>>>
>>>>> Yes it is.
>>>>
>>>> No it isnt.
>>>
>>> Sorree, tis.
>>>
>>>>>>> You know that you can't tell which carrier someone
>>>>>>> is with from their number these days, don't you?
>>>>
>>>>>> How is that relevant to what is being discussed ?
>>>>
>>>>> See below.
>>>>
>>>> Completely useless, as always.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> MT billing only works on-net.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what was being discussed.
>>>>
>>>>>>> I know. It was an added point to the argument. Perhaps
>>>>>>> it won't appear on his bill after all if it wasn't sent on-net.
>>>>
>>>>>> Or maybe that's just plain wrong.
>>>>
>>>>> Nope, sorree.
>>>>
>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>
>>> I note you haven't actually said I was wrong, just "or maybe".
>>> That's commendable, Rod.
>>
>> Pathetic, really.
>
> Hey, I think Rod is a broken record.

Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of thought.

Or anything else at all, either.

Rod wrote:

>> No I'm not. There is no legal obligation to pay a cent in that
>> situation and only a fool like you would be stupid enough to pay that.
>
> Unfortunately the amount is billed by your mobile operator, not the
> spammer. The mobile operator then pays the spammer. Many people have
> had difficulties claiming back the amount.

I had an unsolicited spam SMS sent to my mobile just before Xmas. My
online billing account in the "calls yet to be billed" section listed it
at $3.50. I lodged a complaint with Telstra who reversed the charge. I
can only presume that they'll not pay the service provider or if he's
been paid, at that cost to the provider's bill.

In Whirlpool, where I discovered that others had copped this, and not
all of them Telstra Mobile customers, they too had their money refunded.
Some did report issues. Not sure overall, though, how it all panned out.

Whatever, maybe the provider's relying on only a small minority
remembering to check their bills, and thus the majority cops it sweet.
Might encourage them to repeat the exercise. If they do that, then
really, the authorities should step in and grind these pricks into the
dust.



--
Copy from one, it's plagiarism; copy from two, it's research.

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Rod <rodlg000ATyahooDOTcom> wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Josh B <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:43:41 +1100, Rod Speed (or one of their many
>>>> personalities) said......
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be a bad idea to complain to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trading Post as well since these spammers are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abusing the site and annoying customers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What could the TP, possibly do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make everyone jump through a couple of hoops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the number is shown on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen. Wouldn't stop the spammers, but it would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow them down a I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goes to show how out of date I am.....thought the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TP was a paper. If this was a perfect world,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we, probably, wouldn't be in it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't know for sure that it was TP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they got my number from. The message came
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from +19773366, which doesn't mean anything to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone here have any ideas? There is also a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 130065970 number, which is incomplete, for help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone have any thoughts on how to find the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing number?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I now have the name and contact telephone for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the spammer. What can I do about it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who do I report them to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one. What they have done aint illegal, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is spamming now legal, Rod?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unsolicited.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Incorrect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you never heard of Premium SMS (MT messages)?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you one, after they get the number out of the TP, ****wit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You need to read more in Whirlpool, Rod.'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It aint called Whirlfool for nuffin, you silly little dunny
>>>>>>>>>>> cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There has been a recent dodge with a crooked content
>>>>>>>>>>>> provider sending Premium SMS MT messages and many customers
>>>>>>>>>>>> have been stung
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends you
>>>>>>>>>>> one, after they get the number out of the TP, you silly
>>>>>>>>>>> little dunny cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Aside from the fact that you said to just ignore it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just said ignore the SMS, not ignore any CHARGE for it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But you said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving it
>>>>>>>>> unsolicited.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and now say to complain to your carrier Rod,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I never ever said anything like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do you propose he doesn't pay the PRSMS cost then?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Get the mobile telco to remove it and if they are stupid enough
>>>>>>> to refuse to do that, use the TIO to make them do that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> IE, complain to the carrier?
>>>>>
>>>>> You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist ****wit
>>>>> children ?
>>>>
>>>> In that case, care to explain how you "never ever said anything
>>>> like" complaining to the carrier, Rod?
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Minus the cost from his bill every month for the rest of their
>>>>>>>> life?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wot if he doesnt actually have a life ?
>>>>>
>>>>>> He could move in with you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it's fairly unlikely that this guy is getting much revenue
>>>>>>>>>> unless he is freakishly guessing the carriers that all of
>>>>>>>>>> these people are on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> God knows what this crap is about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's fairly clear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No it isnt.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes it is.
>>>>>
>>>>> No it isnt.
>>>>
>>>> Sorree, tis.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> You know that you can't tell which carrier someone
>>>>>>>> is with from their number these days, don't you?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> How is that relevant to what is being discussed ?
>>>>>
>>>>>> See below.
>>>>>
>>>>> Completely useless, as always.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> MT billing only works on-net.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what was being discussed.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know. It was an added point to the argument. Perhaps
>>>>>>>> it won't appear on his bill after all if it wasn't sent on-net.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or maybe that's just plain wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, sorree.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>>
>>>> I note you haven't actually said I was wrong, just "or maybe".
>>>> That's commendable, Rod.
>>>
>>> Pathetic, really.
>>
>> Hey, I think Rod is a broken record.
>
> Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of thought.
>
> Or anything else at all, either.

Not even mindless wanking?


--
Kwyj

Kwyjibo <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> Rod <rodlg000ATyahooDOTcom> wrote:
>>> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Josh B <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:43:41 +1100, Rod Speed (or one of their
>>>>> many personalities) said......
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be a bad idea to complain to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trading Post as well since these spammers are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abusing the site and annoying customers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What could the TP, possibly do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make everyone jump through a couple of hoops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the number is shown on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen. Wouldn't stop the spammers, but it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would slow them down a I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goes to show how out of date I am.....thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the TP was a paper. If this was a perfect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world, we, probably, wouldn't be in it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't know for sure that it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TP that they got my number from. The message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came from +19773366, which doesn't mean anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to me. Anyone here have any ideas? There is also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a 130065970 number, which is incomplete, for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help. Anyone have any thoughts on how to find the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> missing number?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I now have the name and contact telephone for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the spammer. What can I do about it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who do I report them to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one. What they have done aint illegal, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is spamming now legal, Rod?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it unsolicited.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Incorrect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you never heard of Premium SMS (MT messages)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you one, after they get the number out of the TP,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****wit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You need to read more in Whirlpool, Rod.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It aint called Whirlfool for nuffin, you silly little dunny
>>>>>>>>>>>> cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There has been a recent dodge with a crooked content
>>>>>>>>>>>>> provider sending Premium SMS MT messages and many
>>>>>>>>>>>>> customers have been stung
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends you
>>>>>>>>>>>> one, after they get the number out of the TP, you silly
>>>>>>>>>>>> little dunny cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Aside from the fact that you said to just ignore it
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just said ignore the SMS, not ignore any CHARGE for it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But you said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving it
>>>>>>>>>> unsolicited.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and now say to complain to your carrier Rod,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I never ever said anything like that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you propose he doesn't pay the PRSMS cost then?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Get the mobile telco to remove it and if they are stupid enough
>>>>>>>> to refuse to do that, use the TIO to make them do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IE, complain to the carrier?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist ****wit
>>>>>> children ?
>>>>>
>>>>> In that case, care to explain how you "never ever said anything
>>>>> like" complaining to the carrier, Rod?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Minus the cost from his bill every month for the rest of their
>>>>>>>>> life?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wot if he doesnt actually have a life ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He could move in with you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> it's fairly unlikely that this guy is getting much revenue
>>>>>>>>>>> unless he is freakishly guessing the carriers that all of
>>>>>>>>>>> these people are on.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> God knows what this crap is about.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's fairly clear.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No it isnt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No it isnt.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorree, tis.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You know that you can't tell which carrier someone
>>>>>>>>> is with from their number these days, don't you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How is that relevant to what is being discussed ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Completely useless, as always.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> MT billing only works on-net.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what was being discussed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know. It was an added point to the argument. Perhaps
>>>>>>>>> it won't appear on his bill after all if it wasn't sent
>>>>>>>>> on-net.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or maybe that's just plain wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, sorree.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>>>
>>>>> I note you haven't actually said I was wrong, just "or maybe".
>>>>> That's commendable, Rod.
>>>>
>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>>
>>> Hey, I think Rod is a broken record.
>>
>> Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of thought.
>>
>> Or anything else at all, either.
>
> Not even mindless wanking?

Nar, obviously snapped its dick off long ago.

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> Kwyjibo <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]
>>> Rod <rodlg000ATyahooDOTcom> wrote:
>>>> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Josh B <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:43:41 +1100, Rod Speed (or one of their
>>>>>> many personalities) said......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be a bad idea to complain to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trading Post as well since these spammers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are abusing the site and annoying customers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What could the TP, possibly do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make everyone jump through a couple of hoops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the number is shown on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen. Wouldn't stop the spammers, but it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would slow them down a I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goes to show how out of date I am.....thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the TP was a paper. If this was a perfect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world, we, probably, wouldn't be in it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't know for sure that it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TP that they got my number from. The message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came from +19773366, which doesn't mean anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to me. Anyone here have any ideas? There is also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a 130065970 number, which is incomplete, for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help. Anyone have any thoughts on how to find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the missing number?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I now have the name and contact telephone for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the spammer. What can I do about it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who do I report them to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one. What they have done aint illegal, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is spamming now legal, Rod?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it unsolicited.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Incorrect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you never heard of Premium SMS (MT messages)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you one, after they get the number out of the TP,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****wit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You need to read more in Whirlpool, Rod.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It aint called Whirlfool for nuffin, you silly little
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunny cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There has been a recent dodge with a crooked content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provider sending Premium SMS MT messages and many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customers have been stung
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you one, after they get the number out of the TP, you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> silly little dunny cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aside from the fact that you said to just ignore it
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just said ignore the SMS, not ignore any CHARGE for it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But you said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving it
>>>>>>>>>>> unsolicited.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and now say to complain to your carrier Rod,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I never ever said anything like that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How do you propose he doesn't pay the PRSMS cost then?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Get the mobile telco to remove it and if they are stupid
>>>>>>>>> enough to refuse to do that, use the TIO to make them do that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IE, complain to the carrier?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist ****wit
>>>>>>> children ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In that case, care to explain how you "never ever said anything
>>>>>> like" complaining to the carrier, Rod?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Minus the cost from his bill every month for the rest of
>>>>>>>>>> their life?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wot if he doesnt actually have a life ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He could move in with you!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> it's fairly unlikely that this guy is getting much revenue
>>>>>>>>>>>> unless he is freakishly guessing the carriers that all of
>>>>>>>>>>>> these people are on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> God knows what this crap is about.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's fairly clear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No it isnt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes it is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No it isnt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorree, tis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You know that you can't tell which carrier someone
>>>>>>>>>> is with from their number these days, don't you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How is that relevant to what is being discussed ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See below.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Completely useless, as always.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> MT billing only works on-net.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what was being discussed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I know. It was an added point to the argument. Perhaps
>>>>>>>>>> it won't appear on his bill after all if it wasn't sent
>>>>>>>>>> on-net.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or maybe that's just plain wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, sorree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I note you haven't actually said I was wrong, just "or maybe".
>>>>>> That's commendable, Rod.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>>>
>>>> Hey, I think Rod is a broken record.
>>>
>>> Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of thought.
>>>
>>> Or anything else at all, either.
>>
>> Not even mindless wanking?
>
> Nar, obviously snapped its dick off long ago.

Who said I was talking about *his* dick?


--
Kwyj

Kwyjibo <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> Kwyjibo <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]
>>>> Rod <rodlg000ATyahooDOTcom> wrote:
>>>>> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> Josh B <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:43:41 +1100, Rod Speed (or one of their
>>>>>>> many personalities) said......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wouldn't be a bad idea to complain to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trading Post as well since these spammers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are abusing the site and annoying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What could the TP, possibly do?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make everyone jump through a couple of hoops
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the number is shown on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen. Wouldn't stop the spammers, but it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would slow them down a I guess.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goes to show how out of date I am.....thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the TP was a paper. If this was a perfect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world, we, probably, wouldn't be in it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I don't know for sure that it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TP that they got my number from. The message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> came from +19773366, which doesn't mean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything to me. Anyone here have any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is also a 130065970 number, which is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incomplete, for help. Anyone have any thoughts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on how to find the missing number?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, I now have the name and contact telephone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the spammer. What can I do about it?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who do I report them to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one. What they have done aint illegal, stupid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is spamming now legal, Rod?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it unsolicited.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Incorrect.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you never heard of Premium SMS (MT messages)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you one, after they get the number out of the TP,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ****wit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You need to read more in Whirlpool, Rod.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It aint called Whirlfool for nuffin, you silly little
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunny cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There has been a recent dodge with a crooked content
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provider sending Premium SMS MT messages and many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> customers have been stung
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pity that you dont get to pay anything if someone sends
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you one, after they get the number out of the TP, you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> silly little dunny cleaning ****wit child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aside from the fact that you said to just ignore it
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I just said ignore the SMS, not ignore any CHARGE for it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But you said:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since when has sending an SMS been illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> When they charge you for the priveledge of receiving it
>>>>>>>>>>>> unsolicited.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No they dont. There is no charge whatever if you ignore it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and now say to complain to your carrier Rod,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I never ever said anything like that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How do you propose he doesn't pay the PRSMS cost then?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Get the mobile telco to remove it and if they are stupid
>>>>>>>>>> enough to refuse to do that, use the TIO to make them do
>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> IE, complain to the carrier?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist ****wit
>>>>>>>> children ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In that case, care to explain how you "never ever said anything
>>>>>>> like" complaining to the carrier, Rod?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Minus the cost from his bill every month for the rest of
>>>>>>>>>>> their life?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wot if he doesnt actually have a life ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He could move in with you!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Indeed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's fairly unlikely that this guy is getting much revenue
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless he is freakishly guessing the carriers that all of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> these people are on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> God knows what this crap is about.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's fairly clear.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No it isnt.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes it is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No it isnt.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorree, tis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You know that you can't tell which carrier someone
>>>>>>>>>>> is with from their number these days, don't you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How is that relevant to what is being discussed ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> See below.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Completely useless, as always.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MT billing only works on-net.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Irrelevant to what was being discussed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I know. It was an added point to the argument. Perhaps
>>>>>>>>>>> it won't appear on his bill after all if it wasn't sent
>>>>>>>>>>> on-net.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe that's just plain wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope, sorree.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I note you haven't actually said I was wrong, just "or maybe".
>>>>>>> That's commendable, Rod.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pathetic, really.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey, I think Rod is a broken record.
>>>>
>>>> Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of thought.
>>>>
>>>> Or anything else at all, either.
>>>
>>> Not even mindless wanking?
>>
>> Nar, obviously snapped its dick off long ago.
>
> Who said I was talking about *his* dick?

Pathetic, really.