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  1. #1
    D. Dude
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    Is is possible to get a refund from any of the other carriers on a
    pre-paid service? If you port out it looks to me they rather than you
    may terminate your contract which might mean you may be legally entitled
    to a refund. Any success stories?

    Thanks,

    D.
    (Donning flame proof suit)




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  2. #2
    budgie
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    Re: Pre-paid refund on porting out

    On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:37:39 +1000, "D. Dude" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Is is possible to get a refund from any of the other carriers on a
    >pre-paid service? If you port out it looks to me they rather than you
    >may terminate your contract which might mean you may be legally entitled
    >to a refund. Any success stories?


    YMBJ. Read the contract.



  3. #3
    thegoons
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    Re: Pre-paid refund on porting out


    "budgie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:37:39 +1000, "D. Dude"
    > <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>Is is possible to get a refund from any of the other carriers on a
    >>pre-paid service? If you port out it looks to me they rather than you
    >>may terminate your contract which might mean you may be legally entitled
    >>to a refund. Any success stories?

    >
    > YMBJ. Read the contract.


    Pity about statutory rights under various consumer laws.


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  4. #4
    Jeremy Quirke
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    Re: Pre-paid refund on porting out


    "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > "budgie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:37:39 +1000, "D. Dude"
    >> <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Is is possible to get a refund from any of the other carriers on a
    >>>pre-paid service? If you port out it looks to me they rather than you
    >>>may terminate your contract which might mean you may be legally entitled
    >>>to a refund. Any success stories?

    >>
    >> YMBJ. Read the contract.

    >
    > Pity about statutory rights under various consumer laws.

    Can you name some of these statutory rights, and the specific pieces of
    legislation that make up your "various consumer laws", and how they might
    actually apply in this circumstance? *Scratches head*

    Another person who thinks 'consumer laws' means they should be able to shaft
    the company because their pricing/policies don't fit in with what you want.





  5. #5
    budgie
    Guest

    Re: Pre-paid refund on porting out

    On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:29:40 +1000, "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"budgie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:37:39 +1000, "D. Dude"
    >> <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Is is possible to get a refund from any of the other carriers on a
    >>>pre-paid service? If you port out it looks to me they rather than you
    >>>may terminate your contract which might mean you may be legally entitled
    >>>to a refund. Any success stories?

    >>
    >> YMBJ. Read the contract.

    >
    >Pity about statutory rights under various consumer laws.


    Pity about the contract conditions, which HAVE been tested.



  6. #6
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Pre-paid refund on porting out


    "D. Dude" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Is is possible to get a refund from any of the other carriers on a
    > pre-paid service? If you port out it looks to me they rather than you
    > may terminate your contract which might mean you may be legally entitled
    > to a refund. Any success stories?


    It doesnt matter whether you or they terminate your service





  7. #7
    thegoons
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    Re: Pre-paid refund on porting out


    "Jeremy Quirke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >> "budgie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:37:39 +1000, "D. Dude"
    >>> <[email protected]>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Is is possible to get a refund from any of the other carriers on a
    >>>>pre-paid service? If you port out it looks to me they rather than you
    >>>>may terminate your contract which might mean you may be legally entitled
    >>>>to a refund. Any success stories?
    >>>
    >>> YMBJ. Read the contract.

    >>
    >> Pity about statutory rights under various consumer laws.

    > Can you name some of these statutory rights, and the specific pieces of
    > legislation that make up your "various consumer laws", and how they might
    > actually apply in this circumstance? *Scratches head*
    >
    > Another person who thinks 'consumer laws' means they should be able to
    > shaft the company because their pricing/policies don't fit in with what
    > you want.
    >


    If goods/service are not "as described" (eg: mobile service had poor
    coverage inconsistent with their coverage maps) or other similar deficiency,
    a refund would be applicable (ie: refund of credit paid into the service)
    prior to porting away. Every state and federal fair trading / consumer
    affairs / Trade Practices Act has this provision.


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  8. #8
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Pre-paid refund on porting out


    "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Jeremy Quirke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > >>
    > >> "budgie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >> news:[email protected]...
    > >>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:37:39 +1000, "D. Dude"
    > >>> <[email protected]>
    > >>> wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>>Is is possible to get a refund from any of the other carriers on a
    > >>>>pre-paid service? If you port out it looks to me they rather than you
    > >>>>may terminate your contract which might mean you may be legally

    entitled
    > >>>>to a refund. Any success stories?
    > >>>
    > >>> YMBJ. Read the contract.
    > >>
    > >> Pity about statutory rights under various consumer laws.

    > > Can you name some of these statutory rights, and the specific pieces of
    > > legislation that make up your "various consumer laws", and how they

    might
    > > actually apply in this circumstance? *Scratches head*
    > >
    > > Another person who thinks 'consumer laws' means they should be able to
    > > shaft the company because their pricing/policies don't fit in with what
    > > you want.
    > >

    >
    > If goods/service are not "as described" (eg: mobile service had poor
    > coverage inconsistent with their coverage maps) or other similar

    deficiency,
    > a refund would be applicable (ie: refund of credit paid into the service)
    > prior to porting away. Every state and federal fair trading / consumer
    > affairs / Trade Practices Act has this provision.


    Nope. You would be entitled to a refund of the cost of the starter kit, not
    any additional credit you decided to put in.

    You wouldnt pay additional credit to use the service if you werent happy
    with the service to begin with





  9. #9
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Pre-paid refund on porting out

    Michael <[email protected]> wrote
    > thegoons <[email protected]> wrote
    >> Jeremy Quirke <[email protected]> wrote
    >>> thegoons <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>> budgie <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>>> D. Dude <[email protected]> wrote


    >>>>>> Is is possible to get a refund from any of the other carriers on
    >>>>>> a pre-paid service? If you port out it looks to me they rather
    >>>>>> than you may terminate your contract which might mean you
    >>>>>> may be legally entitled to a refund. Any success stories?


    >>>>> YMBJ. Read the contract.


    >>>> Pity about statutory rights under various consumer laws.


    >>> Can you name some of these statutory rights, and the specific
    >>> pieces of legislation that make up your "various consumer laws",
    >>> and how they might actually apply in this circumstance? *Scratches
    >>> head*


    >>> Another person who thinks 'consumer laws' means they should be able
    >>> to shaft the company because their pricing/policies don't fit in
    >>> with what you want.


    >> If goods/service are not "as described" (eg: mobile service had poor
    >> coverage inconsistent with their coverage maps) or other similar
    >> deficiency, a refund would be applicable (ie: refund of credit paid
    >> into the service) prior to porting away. Every state and federal
    >> fair trading / consumer affairs / Trade Practices Act has this
    >> provision.


    > Nope.


    Yep.

    > You would be entitled to a refund of the cost of the
    > starter kit, not any additional credit you decided to put in.


    Wrong, as always. Most obviously when it become
    clear that the original claim on coverage is just
    plain wrong and you didnt notice that until later.

    > You wouldnt pay additional credit to use the service
    > if you werent happy with the service to begin with


    Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
    never ever had a ****ing clue about anything at all, ever.

    In spades with the most basic consumer law.

    One obvious example is where you spend quite a bit of
    time in a particular place, want a decent mobile there,
    activate the prepaid somewhere else and only notice
    the problem when you try to use it where you dont get
    a usable mobile service later.

    Thats the law, child. Like it or lump it.





  10. #10
    Jeremy Quirke
    Guest

    Re: Pre-paid refund on porting out


    "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Jeremy Quirke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >> "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>>
    >>> "budgie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>> news:[email protected]...
    >>>> On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 22:37:39 +1000, "D. Dude"
    >>>> <[email protected]>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>Is is possible to get a refund from any of the other carriers on a
    >>>>>pre-paid service? If you port out it looks to me they rather than you
    >>>>>may terminate your contract which might mean you may be legally
    >>>>>entitled
    >>>>>to a refund. Any success stories?
    >>>>
    >>>> YMBJ. Read the contract.
    >>>
    >>> Pity about statutory rights under various consumer laws.

    >> Can you name some of these statutory rights, and the specific pieces of
    >> legislation that make up your "various consumer laws", and how they might
    >> actually apply in this circumstance? *Scratches head*
    >>
    >> Another person who thinks 'consumer laws' means they should be able to
    >> shaft the company because their pricing/policies don't fit in with what
    >> you want.
    >>

    >
    > If goods/service are not "as described" (eg: mobile service had poor
    > coverage inconsistent with their coverage maps) or other similar
    > deficiency, a refund would be applicable (ie: refund of credit paid into
    > the service) prior to porting away. Every state and federal fair trading /
    > consumer affairs / Trade Practices Act has this provision.

    Maybe if you interpret the OPs question in a broad sense, but I'm reading it
    as that he's talking about just changing his mind because he can get a
    better deal elsewhere.





  11. #11
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Pre-paid refund on porting out


    "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Michael <[email protected]> wrote
    > > thegoons <[email protected]> wrote
    > >> Jeremy Quirke <[email protected]> wrote
    > >>> thegoons <[email protected]> wrote
    > >>>> budgie <[email protected]> wrote
    > >>>>> D. Dude <[email protected]> wrote

    >
    > >>>>>> Is is possible to get a refund from any of the other carriers on
    > >>>>>> a pre-paid service? If you port out it looks to me they rather
    > >>>>>> than you may terminate your contract which might mean you
    > >>>>>> may be legally entitled to a refund. Any success stories?

    >
    > >>>>> YMBJ. Read the contract.

    >
    > >>>> Pity about statutory rights under various consumer laws.

    >
    > >>> Can you name some of these statutory rights, and the specific
    > >>> pieces of legislation that make up your "various consumer laws",
    > >>> and how they might actually apply in this circumstance? *Scratches
    > >>> head*

    >
    > >>> Another person who thinks 'consumer laws' means they should be able
    > >>> to shaft the company because their pricing/policies don't fit in
    > >>> with what you want.

    >
    > >> If goods/service are not "as described" (eg: mobile service had poor
    > >> coverage inconsistent with their coverage maps) or other similar
    > >> deficiency, a refund would be applicable (ie: refund of credit paid
    > >> into the service) prior to porting away. Every state and federal
    > >> fair trading / consumer affairs / Trade Practices Act has this
    > >> provision.

    >
    > > Nope.

    >
    > Yep.
    >
    > > You would be entitled to a refund of the cost of the
    > > starter kit, not any additional credit you decided to put in.

    >
    > Wrong, as always. Most obviously when it become
    > clear that the original claim on coverage is just
    > plain wrong and you didnt notice that until later.
    >
    > > You wouldnt pay additional credit to use the service
    > > if you werent happy with the service to begin with

    >
    > Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
    > never ever had a ****ing clue about anything at all, ever.
    >
    > In spades with the most basic consumer law.
    >
    > One obvious example is where you spend quite a bit of
    > time in a particular place, want a decent mobile there,
    > activate the prepaid somewhere else and only notice
    > the problem when you try to use it where you dont get
    > a usable mobile service later.


    Nope, doesnt fly like that.






  12. #12
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Pre-paid refund on porting out

    Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
    >>> thegoons <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>> Jeremy Quirke <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>>> thegoons <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>>>> budgie <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>>>>> D. Dude <[email protected]> wrote

    >>
    >>>>>>>> Is is possible to get a refund from any of the other carriers
    >>>>>>>> on a pre-paid service? If you port out it looks to me they
    >>>>>>>> rather than you may terminate your contract which might mean
    >>>>>>>> you
    >>>>>>>> may be legally entitled to a refund. Any success stories?

    >>
    >>>>>>> YMBJ. Read the contract.

    >>
    >>>>>> Pity about statutory rights under various consumer laws.

    >>
    >>>>> Can you name some of these statutory rights, and the specific
    >>>>> pieces of legislation that make up your "various consumer laws",
    >>>>> and how they might actually apply in this circumstance? *Scratches
    >>>>> head*

    >>
    >>>>> Another person who thinks 'consumer laws' means they should be
    >>>>> able to shaft the company because their pricing/policies don't
    >>>>> fit in with what you want.

    >>
    >>>> If goods/service are not "as described" (eg: mobile service had
    >>>> poor coverage inconsistent with their coverage maps) or other
    >>>> similar deficiency, a refund would be applicable (ie: refund of
    >>>> credit paid into the service) prior to porting away. Every state
    >>>> and federal fair trading / consumer affairs / Trade Practices Act
    >>>> has this provision.

    >>
    >>> Nope.

    >>
    >> Yep.
    >>
    >>> You would be entitled to a refund of the cost of the
    >>> starter kit, not any additional credit you decided to put in.

    >>
    >> Wrong, as always. Most obviously when it become
    >> clear that the original claim on coverage is just
    >> plain wrong and you didnt notice that until later.
    >>
    >>> You wouldnt pay additional credit to use the service
    >>> if you werent happy with the service to begin with

    >>
    >> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
    >> never ever had a ****ing clue about anything at all, ever.
    >>
    >> In spades with the most basic consumer law.
    >>
    >> One obvious example is where you spend quite a bit of
    >> time in a particular place, want a decent mobile there,
    >> activate the prepaid somewhere else and only notice
    >> the problem when you try to use it where you dont get
    >> a usable mobile service later.

    >
    > Nope, doesnt fly like that.


    Wrong, as always.





  13. #13
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Pre-paid refund on porting out


    "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > >>> You would be entitled to a refund of the cost of the
    > >>> starter kit, not any additional credit you decided to put in.
    > >>
    > >> Wrong, as always. Most obviously when it become
    > >> clear that the original claim on coverage is just
    > >> plain wrong and you didnt notice that until later.
    > >>
    > >>> You wouldnt pay additional credit to use the service
    > >>> if you werent happy with the service to begin with
    > >>
    > >> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
    > >> never ever had a ****ing clue about anything at all, ever.
    > >>
    > >> In spades with the most basic consumer law.
    > >>
    > >> One obvious example is where you spend quite a bit of
    > >> time in a particular place, want a decent mobile there,
    > >> activate the prepaid somewhere else and only notice
    > >> the problem when you try to use it where you dont get
    > >> a usable mobile service later.

    > >
    > > Nope, doesnt fly like that.

    >
    > Wrong, as always.


    Sorry, you aint guaranteed coverage in any one place at any time.
    And almost all coverage maps are pessimistic, not optimistic, thus that one
    is never gonna fly





  14. #14
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Pre-paid refund on porting out

    Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
    > "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >>>>> You would be entitled to a refund of the cost of the
    >>>>> starter kit, not any additional credit you decided to put in.
    >>>>
    >>>> Wrong, as always. Most obviously when it become
    >>>> clear that the original claim on coverage is just
    >>>> plain wrong and you didnt notice that until later.
    >>>>
    >>>>> You wouldnt pay additional credit to use the service
    >>>>> if you werent happy with the service to begin with
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have
    >>>> never ever had a ****ing clue about anything at all, ever.
    >>>>
    >>>> In spades with the most basic consumer law.
    >>>>
    >>>> One obvious example is where you spend quite a bit of
    >>>> time in a particular place, want a decent mobile there,
    >>>> activate the prepaid somewhere else and only notice
    >>>> the problem when you try to use it where you dont get
    >>>> a usable mobile service later.
    >>>
    >>> Nope, doesnt fly like that.

    >>
    >> Wrong, as always.


    > Sorry,


    Liar.

    > you aint guaranteed coverage in any one place at any time.


    No one ever said you were.

    BUT IF THEIR COVERAGE MAPS CLAIM THAT THEY HAVE
    GOOD COVERAGE IN A PARTICULAR AREA AND YOU FIND
    THAT THERE IS NOT IN FACT GOOD COVERAGE THERE,
    YOU ARE INDEED ENTITLED TO A FULL REFUND IF YOU
    BOUGHT THE PREPAID SERVICE WITH THE INTENTION OF
    USING IT THERE AND FOUND THAT IT WAS UNUSABLE THERE.

    Thats the law, you stupid pig ignorant dunny cleaning ****wit child.

    > And almost all coverage maps are pessimistic,
    > not optimistic, thus that one is never gonna fly


    Pity about the exceptions to the almost, you
    stupid pig ignorant dunny cleaning ****wit child.





  15. #15
    Paul Day
    Guest

    Re: Pre-paid refund on porting out

    Rod Speed <[email protected]> may have written:
    > BUT IF THEIR COVERAGE MAPS CLAIM THAT THEY HAVE GOOD COVERAGE IN A
    > PARTICULAR AREA AND YOU FIND THAT THERE IS NOT IN FACT GOOD COVERAGE
    > THERE, YOU ARE INDEED ENTITLED TO A FULL REFUND IF YOU BOUGHT THE
    > PREPAID SERVICE WITH THE INTENTION OF USING IT THERE AND FOUND THAT IT
    > WAS UNUSABLE THERE.


    What happens if it's due to a faulty handset?

    PD

    --
    Paul Day
    Web: http://www.enigma.id.au/



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