Why can't you buy an outright phone outright and unlocked?

David wrote:
> I don't want to be contactable at all times. If I'm out why would I
> want to be pestered with phone call after phone call?

That's why there is an ON - OFF Button on mobile phones, you choose when
you want to make and receive calls.

My Mother for example never saw a reason to have a mobile phone until I
gave her one. She keeps it in her handbag and finds it is cheaper to
ring my sister's mobile on it than the house phone. She also uses it to
get a lift home and for Emergencies.


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"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> >I have the Nokia 6680 locked to 3 and they also claim this phone can NOT
>> >be unlocked, which is a load of ****. They CAN unlock it if they so
>> >choose, they just point blank REFUSE to unlock it.
>> >
>> Return it to them as being unsuitable for the purpose for which it was
>> purchased.
>
> They didnt advertise it as being unlocked or unlockable, so youve failed
> that test

No, he lied on the salesman's skills/judgment. The Sale Of Goods Act is
clear on that one, he is entitled toa refund.

>
>> >I have my eyes on the Nokia E60 for my next phone at this stage, it has
>> >Wireless 802.11 b as well as Bluetooth capability.
>>
>> If it is not unlocked then do not buy it.
>> --
>> David
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On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:58:16 +0930, "I Am Annoying, Very Annoying"
<[email protected]> typed furiously:

>Good side note for people like David.
>
>How do you cope with no mobile phone? I mean like getting messages
>from people or keeping in touch on appointments, or meetings with
>people?
>
>John

The same way I've been coping for the last fifty odd years. If I'm
home I'll answer the phone. If I'm out you may have to ring back later
or leave a message with someone or an answering machine. Meetings are
pre-arranged. If I find I am not going to be able to make it I'll make
a call to the contact's number and apologise well ahead of time.
Otherwise I make sure that I am there a little ahead of time so that I
can be punctual. The other person has the same options.

Business has been conducted that way for centuries before mobile
phones were invented.
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David <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:00:40 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> <[email protected]> typed furiously:
>
>> David <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 05:03:13 +1000, "Rod Speed"
>>> <[email protected]> typed furiously:
>>>
>>>> Anthony Horan <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>> Simon Templar wrote
>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to see contracts that allow you to upgrade
>>>>>> your handset every 12 months instead of 24 months.
>>>>
>>>>> As would I. 12 month contracts used to be the norm, but now
>>>>> they're virtually non-existent. Two years is way too long a
>>>>> contract commitment for something as transitory as a mobile phone.
>>>>
>>>> No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to have a
>>>> contract.
>>>>
>>>> And only a fool keeps changing their mobile phone every year.
>>
>>> I couldn't agree more. I've never had a mobile phone and I'm not
>>> going to buy one.
>>
>> More fool you. They cost peanuts if you have a clue.

> I don't want to be contactable at all times.

That aint the only reason for a mobile phone, cretin.

> If I'm out why would I want to be pestered with phone call after phone call?

That aint the only reason for a mobile phone, cretin.

David <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:58:16 +0930, "I Am Annoying, Very Annoying"
> <[email protected]> typed furiously:
>
>> Good side note for people like David.
>>
>> How do you cope with no mobile phone? I mean like getting messages
>> from people or keeping in touch on appointments, or meetings with
>> people?
>>
>> John
>
> The same way I've been coping for the last fifty odd years. If I'm
> home I'll answer the phone. If I'm out you may have to ring back later
> or leave a message with someone or an answering machine. Meetings are
> pre-arranged. If I find I am not going to be able to make it I'll make
> a call to the contact's number and apologise well ahead of time.

Not always feasible, most obviously when some fool crashes
into your car when you are on the way to the meeting.

> Otherwise I make sure that I am there a
> little ahead of time so that I can be punctual.

Makes no sense to always be early enough so even if some
fool crashes into your car, you can still get there on time.

> The other person has the same options.

> Business has been conducted that way for
> centuries before mobile phones were invented.

True in spades of non mobile phones too, fool.

> >> >I have the Nokia 6680 locked to 3 and they also claim this phone can
NOT
> >> >be unlocked, which is a load of ****. They CAN unlock it if they so
> >> >choose, they just point blank REFUSE to unlock it.
> >> >
> >> Return it to them as being unsuitable for the purpose for which it was
> >> purchased.
> >
> > They didnt advertise it as being unlocked or unlockable, so youve failed
> > that test
>
> No, he lied on the salesman's skills/judgment. The Sale Of Goods Act is
> clear on that one, he is entitled toa refund.

Nope

"I Am Annoying, Very Annoying" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> Michael wrote:
>
> > > I don't believe they should hold you to ransom by locking you into
their
> > > network, it would make far more sense to "encourage" you to want to
stay
> > > with competitive prices and superior services and therefore NO NEED to
> > > lock phones and far too long contracts.
> >
> > Thats just ridiculous.
> >
> > I'd go out and buy 100 phones for $1 if that was the case, sell them all
on
> > ebay for $100 each
> >
> > >
> > > I would like to see contracts that allow you to upgrade your handset
> > > every 12 months instead of 24 months. Then you can upgrade your
handset
> >
> > Would you be prepared to pay $200 upfront insted of $0?
>
>
>
> Yes
>
>

Then do it, and stop whinging

"Anthony Horan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 14:44:00 +1000, Simon Templar wrote:
>
> > I would like to see contracts that allow you to upgrade your handset
> > every 12 months instead of 24 months.
>
> As would I. 12 month contracts used to be the norm, but now they're
> virtually non-existent. Two years is way too long a contract commitment
for
> something as transitory as a mobile phone.

Stupid customers want phones for $0. There is no other way to do it, without
24 mth contracts.

"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:58:16 +0930, "I Am Annoying, Very Annoying"
> <[email protected]> typed furiously:
>
> >Good side note for people like David.
> >
> >How do you cope with no mobile phone? I mean like getting messages
> >from people or keeping in touch on appointments, or meetings with
> >people?
> >
> >John
>
> The same way I've been coping for the last fifty odd years. If I'm
> home I'll answer the phone. If I'm out you may have to ring back later
> or leave a message with someone or an answering machine. Meetings are
> pre-arranged. If I find I am not going to be able to make it I'll make

So you are in a traffic jam, what do you do?

> Otherwise I make sure that I am there a little ahead of time so that I
> can be punctual. The other person has the same options.
>
> Business has been conducted that way for centuries before mobile
> phones were invented.

Dickhead

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 07:15:54 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> typed
furiously:

>
>"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:58:16 +0930, "I Am Annoying, Very Annoying"
>> <[email protected]> typed furiously:
>>
>> >Good side note for people like David.
>> >
>> >How do you cope with no mobile phone? I mean like getting messages
>> >from people or keeping in touch on appointments, or meetings with
>> >people?
>> >
>> >John
>>
>> The same way I've been coping for the last fifty odd years. If I'm
>> home I'll answer the phone. If I'm out you may have to ring back later
>> or leave a message with someone or an answering machine. Meetings are
>> pre-arranged. If I find I am not going to be able to make it I'll make
>
>So you are in a traffic jam, what do you do?
>
I leave early enough so that delays won't make me late. It's called
anticipation. I'm also understanding if the other parties are late.

>> Otherwise I make sure that I am there a little ahead of time so that I
>> can be punctual. The other person has the same options.
>>
>> Business has been conducted that way for centuries before mobile
>> phones were invented.
>
>Dickhead
>
Aren't you!
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 07:13:40 GMT, Michael wrote:

> "Anthony Horan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 14:44:00 +1000, Simon Templar wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to see contracts that allow you to upgrade your handset
>>> every 12 months instead of 24 months.
>>
>> As would I. 12 month contracts used to be the norm, but now they're
>> virtually non-existent. Two years is way too long a contract commitment for
>> something as transitory as a mobile phone.
>
> Stupid customers want phones for $0. There is no other way to do it, without
> 24 mth contracts.

Except when they used to do it on 12 month contracts - and ONLY 12 month
contracts.

I don't want a phone for nothing. I want a phone for a reasonable price
with good call and text rates. And while I'm willing to sign a contract to
get that, I'm not comfortable signing up for 2 years.

thats a lot frog****,
the reason they say they cant unlock them is because they want to keep you
locked to their network....

if your fone is a prepaid one u can have it unlocked theres heaps that will
do it for around $60-100
good luck


"I Am Annoying" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Why is it that you can't buy a mobile phone outright and unlocked?
>
> Sure a lot of the retailers now have phones with listed "outright prices"
> to boy outright but they are still either locked to a network or they
> won't sell them unlocked?
>
> I was about to buy a particular LG flip phone which had memory cards
> and MP3 and such and it had a listed "outright price" of $249 but when
> asking the sales dude at 3 if they were locked to 3 he had to look in a
> book and then says "uummm yep they're locked and we can't unlock
> them"..
>
> So in short does anyone offer phones to buy completely outright and
> unlocked to go with ANY CARRIER. As free choice should be available
> to customers..

"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 07:15:54 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> typed
...........
>>
>>So you are in a traffic jam, what do you do?
>>
> I leave early enough so that delays won't make me late. It's called
> anticipation. I'm also understanding if the other parties are late.
>
>>> Otherwise I make sure that I am there a little ahead of time so that I
>>> can be punctual. The other person has the same options.
>>>
Tell you what, I've lost much more time in meetings interrupted by others
answering their f'king mobiles, than I ever lost in traffic jams or saved by
having a mobile myself.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:07:22 GMT, "jg" <[email protected]> typed
furiously:

>
>"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 07:15:54 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> typed
>..........
>>>
>>>So you are in a traffic jam, what do you do?
>>>
>> I leave early enough so that delays won't make me late. It's called
>> anticipation. I'm also understanding if the other parties are late.
>>
>>>> Otherwise I make sure that I am there a little ahead of time so that I
>>>> can be punctual. The other person has the same options.
>>>>
>Tell you what, I've lost much more time in meetings interrupted by others
>answering their f'king mobiles, than I ever lost in traffic jams or saved by
>having a mobile myself.
>
Hear, hear!
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"Anthony Horan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 07:13:40 GMT, Michael wrote:
>
> > "Anthony Horan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news[email protected]...
> >> On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 14:44:00 +1000, Simon Templar wrote:
> >>
> >>> I would like to see contracts that allow you to upgrade your handset
> >>> every 12 months instead of 24 months.
> >>
> >> As would I. 12 month contracts used to be the norm, but now they're
> >> virtually non-existent. Two years is way too long a contract commitment
for
> >> something as transitory as a mobile phone.
> >
> > Stupid customers want phones for $0. There is no other way to do it,
without
> > 24 mth contracts.
>
> Except when they used to do it on 12 month contracts - and ONLY 12 month
> contracts.

They never did $0 phones on 12 mth contracts, end of story

> I don't want a phone for nothing. I want a phone for a reasonable price
> with good call and text rates. And while I'm willing to sign a contract to
> get that, I'm not comfortable signing up for 2 years.

Then **** off