The NEW 3G for "the bush" - Any news on its rollout?

Intel Inside wrote:

>
> Rather than 'laughing' you should be providing a reference because Emjaye
> has admitted difficulties in finding technical information about those
> phones. Or are you that imprerceptive?.
> Lift your game Michael
>

Don't bother, Ellis has been pretending he knows more than he does for
years. The phones are obviously gsm phones, this so-called migration to
GSM 3G is being promoted to all telstra's cdma customers, probably part
of its attempt to divest itself of current cdma customers to lighten the
load on the network before they knock it over. SFA to do with
3G/850/WCDMA handsets.

Treat everything he says as bull**** and save yourself the trouble.

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Are you saying his name is Michael "Ellis"?.



"Alice" <e@****anddie.com> wrote in message
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> Intel Inside wrote:
>
>>
>> Rather than 'laughing' you should be providing a reference because Emjaye
>> has admitted difficulties in finding technical information about those
>> phones. Or are you that imprerceptive?.
>> Lift your game Michael
>
> Don't bother, Ellis has been pretending he knows more than he does for
> years. The phones are obviously gsm phones, this so-called migration to
> GSM 3G is being promoted to all telstra's cdma customers, probably part of
> its attempt to divest itself of current cdma customers to lighten the load
> on the network before they knock it over. SFA to do with 3G/850/WCDMA
> handsets.
>
> Treat everything he says as bull**** and save yourself the trouble.

Alice wrote:

> years. The phones are obviously gsm phones, this so-called migration to
> GSM 3G is being promoted to all telstra's cdma customers, probably part
> of its attempt to divest itself of current cdma customers to lighten the
> load on the network before they knock it over.

I'd probably consider getting a GSM phone except that while 90% of my
time is spent in GSM covered areas (very little of which has 3G), there
is still that 10% that it doesn't cover where there is often CDMA (but
not always).

So, when I saw my daughter's 3G service (3 Mobile) and how spiffy it
looked, I thought that this would be my next gadget. This is despite me
saying for years that all I've ever needed was a basic phone service
with a phone that provided basic features inc. predictive SMS.

It's amazing how pretty pictures and gadgetry can suck you in. Of
course, in my case, this is tempered by price. If it's gonna cost an arm
and a leg to use, then I'll stick with whatever's the cheapest service.

My daughter and son-in-law are with 3. It has a $30 cap. Telstra's
closest plan is a $50 one. I don't wish to spend $25 a month more than I
do now, but a $30 capped plan would've been acceptable (a $25 one even
nicer). However, it remains to be seen what sort of plans that Telstra
will offer its customers on the new 3G service, and if competing
retailers will offer access to it, or be allowed to offer competing
services on it.

Speaking of the existing 3G service, it currently extends in the SE
region of Melbourne out as far as Narre-Warren/Berwick. Does anyone here
know (yes, even you Michael) if Telstra has any plans to extend it
further, say to Pakenham? It's an area that is experiencing phenomenal
growth at the moment. So, it should be ripe for the picking, I would
think.

Emjaye wrote:
> Alice wrote:
>
>> years. The phones are obviously gsm phones, this so-called migration to
>> GSM 3G is being promoted to all telstra's cdma customers, probably part
>> of its attempt to divest itself of current cdma customers to lighten the
>> load on the network before they knock it over.
>
> Speaking of the existing 3G service, it currently extends in the SE
> region of Melbourne out as far as Narre-Warren/Berwick. Does anyone here
> know (yes, even you Michael) if Telstra has any plans to extend it
> further, say to Pakenham? It's an area that is experiencing phenomenal
> growth at the moment. So, it should be ripe for the picking, I would
> think.
>

Why would Telstra add more 3GSM 2100 cells out to Pakenham and beyond
when the 3GSM 850 coverage will have that area fully covered when it's
activated next month?

You have to remember that the 3GSM 850 band will become Telstra's
PRIMARY 3G service band whilst the shared 2100 band with Hutchison will
have lower priority.

Emjaye,
all indications are that the 3G850 switch will be flicked on early next
month so include this in your considerations.
Once it is working I'd expect handset makers such as Motorola to include the
850 band in their multi-band units very soon afterwards.



"Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Alice wrote:
>
>> years. The phones are obviously gsm phones, this so-called migration to
>> GSM 3G is being promoted to all telstra's cdma customers, probably part
>> of its attempt to divest itself of current cdma customers to lighten the
>> load on the network before they knock it over.
>
> I'd probably consider getting a GSM phone except that while 90% of my
> time is spent in GSM covered areas (very little of which has 3G), there
> is still that 10% that it doesn't cover where there is often CDMA (but
> not always).
>
> So, when I saw my daughter's 3G service (3 Mobile) and how spiffy it
> looked, I thought that this would be my next gadget. This is despite me
> saying for years that all I've ever needed was a basic phone service
> with a phone that provided basic features inc. predictive SMS.
>
> It's amazing how pretty pictures and gadgetry can suck you in. Of
> course, in my case, this is tempered by price. If it's gonna cost an arm
> and a leg to use, then I'll stick with whatever's the cheapest service.
>
> My daughter and son-in-law are with 3. It has a $30 cap. Telstra's
> closest plan is a $50 one. I don't wish to spend $25 a month more than I
> do now, but a $30 capped plan would've been acceptable (a $25 one even
> nicer). However, it remains to be seen what sort of plans that Telstra
> will offer its customers on the new 3G service, and if competing
> retailers will offer access to it, or be allowed to offer competing
> services on it.
>
> Speaking of the existing 3G service, it currently extends in the SE
> region of Melbourne out as far as Narre-Warren/Berwick. Does anyone here
> know (yes, even you Michael) if Telstra has any plans to extend it
> further, say to Pakenham? It's an area that is experiencing phenomenal
> growth at the moment. So, it should be ripe for the picking, I would
> think.
>

Intel Inside <[email protected]> wrote:

> all indications are that the 3G850 switch will be flicked on early next month so include this in
> your considerations.

> Once it is working I'd expect handset makers such as Motorola to
> include the 850 band in their multi-band units very soon afterwards.

Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland.

We dont amount to a hill of beans to them.


> "Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Alice wrote:
>>
>>> years. The phones are obviously gsm phones, this so-called
>>> migration to GSM 3G is being promoted to all telstra's cdma
>>> customers, probably part of its attempt to divest itself of current
>>> cdma customers to lighten the load on the network before they knock
>>> it over.
>>
>> I'd probably consider getting a GSM phone except that while 90% of my
>> time is spent in GSM covered areas (very little of which has 3G),
>> there is still that 10% that it doesn't cover where there is often
>> CDMA (but not always).
>>
>> So, when I saw my daughter's 3G service (3 Mobile) and how spiffy it
>> looked, I thought that this would be my next gadget. This is despite
>> me saying for years that all I've ever needed was a basic phone
>> service with a phone that provided basic features inc. predictive
>> SMS. It's amazing how pretty pictures and gadgetry can suck you in. Of
>> course, in my case, this is tempered by price. If it's gonna cost an
>> arm and a leg to use, then I'll stick with whatever's the cheapest
>> service. My daughter and son-in-law are with 3. It has a $30 cap. Telstra's
>> closest plan is a $50 one. I don't wish to spend $25 a month more
>> than I do now, but a $30 capped plan would've been acceptable (a $25
>> one even nicer). However, it remains to be seen what sort of plans
>> that Telstra will offer its customers on the new 3G service, and if
>> competing retailers will offer access to it, or be allowed to offer
>> competing services on it.
>>
>> Speaking of the existing 3G service, it currently extends in the SE
>> region of Melbourne out as far as Narre-Warren/Berwick. Does anyone
>> here know (yes, even you Michael) if Telstra has any plans to extend
>> it further, say to Pakenham? It's an area that is experiencing
>> phenomenal growth at the moment. So, it should be ripe for the
>> picking, I would think.

Intel Inside wrote:

> Emjaye,
> all indications are that the 3G850 switch will be flicked on early next
> month so include this in your considerations.
> Once it is working I'd expect handset makers such as Motorola to include
> the 850 band in their multi-band units very soon afterwards.

Been reviewing the past posts on this subject. Thought that I'd comment
on this.

I've been in contact with Nokia with regards to the new network and
asked if it was producing phones for it. I got the runaround and evasive
answers. In short, they wouldn't tell me what their plans were. Fair
enough, I s'pose. Nokia always was a trailer in this industry. It took
at least 18 months before it produced a CDMA phone, while LG and
Ericsson had two models out (I bought an LG at the time). Presumably,
history will repeat itself and Nokia will take ages to release a NextG
model.

Emjaye wrote:
> Presumably, history will repeat itself and Nokia will take ages to release a NextG
> model.

Well it already has - LG have a model at launch, whilst Nokia/SE are
nowhere to be seen. Just like at the launch of 3G 2100mhtz by 3 (4
years ago?) they will be forced to jump on the bandwagon eventually.
If you recall back then, LG was one of the handset makers out with a
phone for 3 - Nokia and SE didn't bother until much later.

Nokia/SE don't innovate, only follow. Bit like Telstra itself really.

> enough, I s'pose. Nokia always was a trailer in this industry. It took
> at least 18 months before it produced a CDMA phone, while LG and
> Ericsson had two models out (I bought an LG at the time). Presumably,
> history will repeat itself and Nokia will take ages to release a NextG
> model.

Nokia has announced only one HDSPA model, the N95, and it won't be
available at 850MHz at launch. It launches in March 2007 for 2100MHz
HSDPA networks, with the 850MHz model to follow in the months after.
(i.e. don't expect it in the first half of the year)

[email protected] wrote
> Emjaye wrote

>> Presumably, history will repeat itself and Nokia
>> will take ages to release a NextG model.

> Well it already has - LG have a model at launch, whilst Nokia/SE are
> nowhere to be seen. Just like at the launch of 3G 2100mhtz by 3 (4
> years ago?) they will be forced to jump on the bandwagon eventually.
> If you recall back then, LG was one of the handset makers out with a
> phone for 3 - Nokia and SE didn't bother until much later.

> Nokia/SE don't innovate, only follow.

Pig ignorant drivel.

> Bit like Telstra itself really.

Mindless silly stuff, most obviously with NextG.

[email protected] wrote:

> Nokia/SE don't innovate, only follow.

Absolute tommyrot, fool. There are plenty of examples where both
(notably Nokia) have produced handsets etc with features long before
upstarts like LG.

"Alice" <e@****anddie.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Nokia/SE don't innovate, only follow.
>
> Absolute tommyrot, fool. There are plenty of examples where both (notably
> Nokia) have produced handsets etc with features long before upstarts like
> LG.

They arent as cutting-edge as they once were.

Also their plethora of similar, confusing models is absolutely ridiculous

>

Michael <[email protected]> wrote
> Alice <e@****anddie.com> wrote
>> [email protected] wrote

>>> Nokia/SE don't innovate, only follow.

>> Absolute tommyrot, fool. There are plenty of examples where both
>> (notably Nokia) have produced handsets etc with features long before
>> upstarts like LG.

> They arent as cutting-edge as they once were.

Dunno, that's arguable.

> Also their plethora of similar, confusing models is absolutely ridiculous

And their weirdys too.

Alice wrote:

> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Nokia/SE don't innovate, only follow.
>
> Absolute tommyrot, fool. There are plenty of examples where both
> (notably Nokia) have produced handsets etc with features long before
> upstarts like LG.

He's right. Nokia always seems to be the last out with anything. But
when it does it is usually something that's better than what's out
there.

Emjaye wrote:

> He's right. Nokia always seems to be the last out with anything. But
> when it does it is usually something that's better than what's out
> there.

Have Nokia picked up their game on software lately? They used to be
unbeatable for software stability and reliability, but after the **** I
went through with my 6230 playing up I jumped ship. Just wondering if
things have improved