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  1. #16
    Graeme Willox
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    Re: 24 Month Plan but only 12 Months Warranty

    Michael wrote:
    > "Graeme Willox" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >> Michael wrote:
    >>> "Graeme Willox" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >>>> Michael wrote:
    >>>>> "Simon Templar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:451ea3a2$0$4674$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
    >>>>>> This really pisses me off, just about all phones sold on contract lock
    >>>>>> you into a 24 month contract yet you only get 12 months warranty on
    >>>>>> them.
    >>>>> then buy outright and you dont have this problem
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Most phones these days don't even last 24 months before developing
    >>>>>> problems and you are stuck with the junk until the contract is up.
    >>>>>> This leaves you two options pay big $$$ to have them repaired or $$$
    >>>>>> to pay your contract out to upgrade.
    >>>>> that is YOU, the customers fault. you want something for nothing, all
    >>>>> the time.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> you never want to pay anything for your phone, even if it makes
    >>>>> economical sense. you pushed out contract lengths from 12 months, to
    >>>>> 15, to 18, and now to 24.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> The phone companies are quick to get the money off us each month but
    >>>>>> they are not prepared to provide us with decent phones on a reasonable
    >>>>>> contract.
    >>>>> see above. you dont understand simple economics
    >>>> Paying the phone off isn't getting something for nothing. It's just the
    >>>> same type of deal you get if you buy something interest free from the
    >>>> likes of Harvey Norman.
    >>> If it is an MRO type arrangement where your service plan is seperate to
    >>> your handset, then it is.
    >>>
    >>> But most are NOT, they are a combined service offer and phone option.
    >>>
    >>> Do you SERIOUSLY think that a 24 month contract for $20 per month, with
    >>> $0 upfront, that the phone is FREE?

    >> The last three phones I've bought (CDMA) have been on MRO. Telstra hasn't
    >> offered me a $0 CDMA phone ever, not even when I was on their $150 a month
    >> plan. Now that I've gone through a dealer, at least I'm

    >
    > You havent had your eyes open. Telstra and other carriers have been doing $0
    > plans on a $150 since at least 1997
    >
    >> not on a $150 plan any more.

    >
    >


    Which CDMA phones have they provided for $0?



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  2. #17
    Pagey
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    Re: 24 Month Plan but only 12 Months Warranty


    "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >> "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >>>
    >>> Do you SERIOUSLY think that a 24 month contract for $20 per month, with
    >>> $0 upfront, that the phone is FREE?

    >>
    >> Yes - at least for the consumer. The provider foots the bill, and
    >> recuperates the costs by signing you to their network for 24 months.

    >
    > Youve got no idea, clearly


    I think you've got the shoe on the wrong foot, buddy. My last two $0 phones
    have been that - $0. No further monthly phone payments, no further
    installments. However, I have been locked into a contract for upto 24
    months. If I decide to break the contract within that period then I pay out
    the minimum network costs AND the phone . Otherwise for me - the consumer -
    the phone is free.





  3. #18
    Michael
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    Re: 24 Month Plan but only 12 Months Warranty


    "Pagey" <adpage@invalid> wrote in message
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    > "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >> "Pagey" <adpage@invalid> wrote in message
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    >>>
    >>> "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >>>>
    >>>> Do you SERIOUSLY think that a 24 month contract for $20 per month, with
    >>>> $0 upfront, that the phone is FREE?
    >>>
    >>> Yes - at least for the consumer. The provider foots the bill, and
    >>> recuperates the costs by signing you to their network for 24 months.

    >>
    >> Youve got no idea, clearly

    >
    > I think you've got the shoe on the wrong foot, buddy. My last two $0
    > phones have been that - $0. No further monthly phone payments, no further
    > installments. However, I have been locked into a contract for upto 24
    > months. If I decide to break the contract within that period then I pay
    > out the minimum network costs AND the phone . Otherwise for me - the
    > consumer - the phone is free.


    If you think a 24 month contract makes it free, then you are an utter
    ****wit
    >
    >






  4. #19
    Michael
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    Re: 24 Month Plan but only 12 Months Warranty

    >> You havent had your eyes open. Telstra and other carriers have been doing
    >> $0 plans on a $150 since at least 1997
    >>
    >>> not on a $150 plan any more.

    >>

    > Which CDMA phones have they provided for $0?


    Graeme, from what I can see very quickly, the following phones are free on
    business phone plan 150 and mobile phone plan 150

    imate pda2k evdo
    kyocera kx440
    kyocera kx5
    motorola a840
    nokia 6255

    unless this is a trick question, there are tonnes of them





  5. #20
    Graeme Willox
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    Re: 24 Month Plan but only 12 Months Warranty

    Michael wrote:
    >>> You havent had your eyes open. Telstra and other carriers have been doing
    >>> $0 plans on a $150 since at least 1997
    >>>
    >>>> not on a $150 plan any more.

    >> Which CDMA phones have they provided for $0?

    >
    > Graeme, from what I can see very quickly, the following phones are free on
    > business phone plan 150 and mobile phone plan 150
    >
    > imate pda2k evdo
    > kyocera kx440
    > kyocera kx5
    > motorola a840
    > nokia 6255
    >
    > unless this is a trick question, there are tonnes of them
    >
    >


    Ok. I must admit I never looked seriously at any of those models. I
    did buy a Kyocera KX2, but they didn't discount it at all. It ended up
    being a buggy phone. It used to freeze up at random. The software in
    it was buggy. (You could enter heaps of info in the organiser section
    and it would only store the first word you'd entered). It went back for
    repair a couple of times, but in the end I lost confidence in it. I use
    it at work and need it to be reliable. It's out of warranty now, but
    I'm still having to pay the stupid thing off, even though the thing
    never really worked completely reliably.



  6. #21
    Pagey
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    Re: 24 Month Plan but only 12 Months Warranty


    "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >> "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >>> "Pagey" <adpage@invalid> wrote in message
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    >>>> "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>> news:[email protected]...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Do you SERIOUSLY think that a 24 month contract for $20 per month,
    >>>>> with $0 upfront, that the phone is FREE?
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes - at least for the consumer. The provider foots the bill, and
    >>>> recuperates the costs by signing you to their network for 24 months.
    >>>
    >>> Youve got no idea, clearly

    >>
    >> I think you've got the shoe on the wrong foot, buddy. My last two $0
    >> phones have been that - $0. No further monthly phone payments, no further
    >> installments. However, I have been locked into a contract for upto 24
    >> months. If I decide to break the contract within that period then I pay
    >> out the minimum network costs AND the phone . Otherwise for me - the
    >> consumer - the phone is free.

    >
    > If you think a 24 month contract makes it free, then you are an utter
    > ****wit


    Let me keep it simple for those s-l-o-w-e-r types among us.

    I pay $22 p/m connection fee.
    I sign a contract for 24 months.
    On doing so I get provided a phone for $0 - free.
    If I break the contract, I pay out the remainder of the 24 months connection
    fees.
    I also get slugged the cost of the phone new divided by the months already
    passed.

    So how much is the phone? FREE. The provider recuperates the costs by
    keeping me with their network for 24 months. If I break the contract, I pay
    for the phone.

    Do you understand? As they say, it's not rocket science.







  7. #22
    Joe69
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    Re: 24 Month Plan but only 12 Months Warranty


    Good example can be seen here. http://www.pynk.com.au/specialoffer

    The fact is that this type of dispute is a common. However you are
    bring in at least 2 or 3 different areas into a single purchase

    Mobile Phones are made by phone companys in a world market. To suite a
    world market. That means 12mths warranty on the phone and 6 mths on the
    battery. Remember Australia purchase numbers are a dot on the map to
    World wide sales.

    Mobile Telco contracts are designed to help the Consumer obtain
    discount Hardware but it is about Margins. Think of this on a telco
    propective. sell 7000 Mobile phones a mth on various plans on average
    of $350 per phone plus approx $150 for the dealer channel selling and
    promoting the product.
    Work out the costs. 7000 x $500 = $3,500,000 per month. That is
    $84,000,000 over 24 mths for 7000 customers per mths just to cover
    their costs. and from that they need to make their margins.

    Telcos want you to buy outright and go on no contract which why prepaid
    phones are so competitive. HPP and Free phone are a massive cost.

    The world market is more on phone outright purchase. That is why phone
    companies do not work with the plan suppliers. It is just a purchase
    for them.

    Do your self a favour and Buy outright and shop out a competitive plan.
    Also instead of buying a expensive $400 to $600 phone, Just buy $200
    ones so you can upgrade when ever you want.

    As it is easier to have a ***** rather than look at the logistic's of a
    contract purchase. It is easier to think. I want the best, For the
    Cheapest, with little or no contract and Upgrade for free whenever I
    want. But the Realistic level of a Telco is, Unless you spend $500 to
    $1000 per month, you are just a small subscriber number to them. Other
    wise contracts will stay 24 mths unless the consumer wants cheaper
    older phones. But that will never happen.

    It is like Woolworths paying for your Fridge so you can put the food
    you buy into it because you are a loyal customer. Or fuel companies
    paying for your car.. Think about it in a bit more detail... Mobile
    phone consumers have a great deal as far as alternitives.


    --
    Joe69



  8. #23
    Joe69
    Guest

    Re: 24 Month Plan but only 12 Months Warranty


    Good example can be seen here. http://www.pynk.com.au/specialoffer

    The fact is that this type of dispute is a common. However you are
    bring in at least 2 or 3 different areas into a single purchase

    Mobile Phones are made by phone companys in a world market. To suite a
    world market. That means 12mths warranty on the phone and 6 mths on the
    battery. Remember Australia purchase numbers are a dot on the map to
    World wide sales.

    Mobile Telco contracts are designed to help the Consumer obtain
    discount Hardware but it is about Margins. Think of this on a telco
    propective. sell 7000 Mobile phones a mth on various plans on average
    of $350 per phone plus approx $150 for the dealer channel selling and
    promoting the product.
    Work out the costs. 7000 x $500 = $3,500,000 per month. That is
    $84,000,000 over 24 mths for 7000 customers per mths just to cover
    their costs. and from that they need to make their margins.

    Telcos want you to buy outright and go on no contract which why prepaid
    phones are so competitive. HPP and Free phone are a massive cost.

    The world market is more on phone outright purchase. That is why phone
    companies do not work with the plan suppliers. It is just a purchase
    for them.

    Do your self a favour and Buy outright and shop out a competitive plan.
    Also instead of buying a expensive $400 to $600 phone, Just buy $200
    ones so you can upgrade when ever you want.

    As it is easier to have a ***** rather than look at the logistic's of a
    contract purchase. It is easier to think. I want the best, For the
    Cheapest, with little or no contract and Upgrade for free whenever I
    want. But the Realistic level of a Telco is, Unless you spend $500 to
    $1000 per month, you are just a small subscriber number to them. Other
    wise contracts will stay 24 mths unless the consumer wants cheaper
    older phones. But that will never happen.

    It is like Woolworths paying for your Fridge so you can put the food
    you buy into it because you are a loyal customer. Or fuel companies
    paying for your car.. Think about it in a bit more detail... Mobile
    phone consumers have a great deal as far as alternitives.


    --
    Joe69



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