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"Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Michael said....
>
>>> That's the exact same thing I said to them when their phone reps were
>>> too busy stuffing my order around and spitting out all the incorrect
>>> bull****.
>>
>> This coming from someone who *****s Australia as "Australai"
>
> If that is the best that you can do to try and defend Telstra, to pick
> on someone's typo, then it says much for you and the organisation that

I believe I was commenting on someone *****ing in that post, nothing more,
nothing less

> you represent.

I don't represent any organisation. Do you see any organisation in my
headers? Do I attach a sig to my posts?

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"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]:
> "Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Michael said....
> >
>
> >>> That's the exact same thing I said to them when their phone reps
> >>> were
> >>> too busy stuffing my order around and spitting out all the incorrect
> >>> bull****.
> >>
>
> >> This coming from someone who *****s Australia as "Australai"
> >
>
> > If that is the best that you can do to try and defend Telstra, to pick
> > on someone's typo, then it says much for you and the organisation that
>
>
> I believe I was commenting on someone *****ing in that post, nothing more,
>
> nothing less
>
>
> > you represent.
>
>
> I don't represent any organisation. Do you see any organisation in my
> headers? Do I attach a sig to my posts?

Thankyou for the support Emjaye. It was a simple typo.

As for you Michael, are you saying that if we go through your posts, we
won't find ANY *****ing errors or simple typos? Are you really
suggesting you are so perfect that you then have the right to critisize
others for their typos. ****, I'd hate to see what you'd say to some
poor dislexic person if they managed to get on here you fool. Or is it
just your that bored because your too lazy to go out and do the things
most people have to, so to fill in your time, you look for something to
critisize?

Michael said....

>> to what is the correct figure) then I have around $35 worth of data
>> charges.
>
> 1.5c/kb for PAYG rate

Well, that charge is certainly making itself felt.

Have a look at below. What's the difference between the different types
of sessions? Aside from the obvious one, telstra.internet and the mms
one, what do they mean?

(I hope that this ain't a jumbled mess of text...)

9 Oct 12:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 11:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 10:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 09:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
29 Oct 08:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 07:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 06:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
29 Oct 05:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 04:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 03:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
29 Oct 01:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
29 Oct 12:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
28 Oct 11:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
28 Oct 10:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
28 Oct 09:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
28 Oct 08:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
28 Oct 07:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
28 Oct 06:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
28 Oct 05:05 pm telstra.internet 1 KB 0.01 0.01
28 Oct 04:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
28 Oct 03:08 pm telstra.mms 259 KB 0.00 0.00
28 Oct 03:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
28 Oct 02:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
28 Oct 01:04 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
27 Oct 05:57 pm telstra.wap 25 KB 0.34 0.38
27 Oct 05:57 pm telstra.media 5 KB 0.00 0.00
27 Oct 05:53 pm telstra.wap 462 KB 6.30 6.93
27 Oct 04:06 pm telstra.wap 187 KB 2.55 2.80
27 Oct 04:06 pm telstra.media 5 KB 0.00 0.00
26 Oct 11:27 pm telstra.internet 399 KB 5.44 5.99
26 Oct 11:06 pm telstra.internet 421 KB 5.74 6.31

Emjaye wrote:
> Michael said....
>
>>> to what is the correct figure) then I have around $35 worth of data
>>> charges.
>> 1.5c/kb for PAYG rate
>
> Well, that charge is certainly making itself felt.
>
> Have a look at below. What's the difference between the different types
> of sessions? Aside from the obvious one, telstra.internet and the mms
> one, what do they mean?
>
> 28 Oct 04:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03

telstra.internet is the pay-as-you-go billing APN which provides non
filtered internet access to your handset.

> 28 Oct 03:08 pm telstra.mms 259 KB 0.00 0.00

telstra.mms is the APN used to send video and picture messages to the
preset server on the network and will only allow tunnels to that server.
It also sets the billing rate at a fixed amount (75c etc) per connection.

> 27 Oct 05:57 pm telstra.wap 25 KB 0.34 0.38

telstra.wap is similar to telstra.internet BUT it doesn't allow direct
access. All requests are sent through a proxy that not only allows for
real-time billing (hence the availability to pre-paid) but also checks
the device type used to determine if it should be customised for a
smaller limited handset screen i.e handsets only capable of WAP
functionality rather than all the bells and whistles of full HTTP.

> 27 Oct 05:57 pm telstra.media 5 KB 0.00 0.00

telstra.media is the APN used exclusively for Foxtel Mobile content. To
access the server hosting the content on the internal intranet you need
to access this APN. It also ensures that you're not billed any extra for
data after you pay the monthly fee.

The main differences between them are how the billing system is set up
to charge for access and what IP path and servers are accessible.
There are other APN's such as telstra.pcpack & telstra.datapack that
allow customers who have subscribed to a monthly data bundle to be
billed at those rates. If a user with a data bundle accessed the
telstra.internet APN they would be charged at PAYG rates.

Kubalister said....

> telstra.internet is the pay-as-you-go billing APN which provides non
> filtered internet access to your handset.

Thanks for the info. It's appreciated. Just one more question - what's
"APN"?

Anyway, as you can see, it's damned easy to rack up data charges. I've
had the phone two weeks, I think, and I've already hit around $60 in
data charges. Now that the novelty has worn off, it'll only be used when
necessary.

I'm impressed with the phone, though. Works well, comfortable to use,
nice feel to the keys and the screen looks OK, not grainy, etc. Only
thing is the software limitation between PC and phone. I can't manage
the contacts/address book directly from the PC as the phone doesn't
support that function. Rather, I have to do it in a roundabout way.
Export the data via the sync. function, then import it into Outlook.
However, when I update a record or records I can only do a complete
sync. The records overwrite what's on the phone, or it adds to them, thu
duplicating each entry. And for the ones that it overwrites, all the
info such as assigned ringtones for each individual contact is deleted.
The PC software doesn't recognise that data.

Whatever the main thing is that I can now root around and eventually
sync my Palm Desktop software with the phone via Outlook....

Emjaye wrote:
> Kubalister said....
>
>> telstra.internet is the pay-as-you-go billing APN which provides non
>> filtered internet access to your handset.
>
> Thanks for the info. It's appreciated. Just one more question - what's
> "APN"?

Access Point Name

"Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Michael said....
>
>>> to what is the correct figure) then I have around $35 worth of data
>>> charges.
>>
>> 1.5c/kb for PAYG rate
>
> Well, that charge is certainly making itself felt.
>
> Have a look at below. What's the difference between the different types
> of sessions? Aside from the obvious one, telstra.internet and the mms
> one, what do they mean?
>
> (I hope that this ain't a jumbled mess of text...)

Sorry, I don't understand my own bills, so I can't tell you what they mean.
telstra.wap and telstra.internet are different APNs, but they appear to be
charged at the same rate.

Telstra.mms is the zero priced carriage for your outgoing MMS (because you
are charged 50c? for the MMS)

>
> 9 Oct 12:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 29 Oct 11:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 29 Oct 10:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 29 Oct 09:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
> 29 Oct 08:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 29 Oct 07:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 29 Oct 06:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
> 29 Oct 05:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 29 Oct 04:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 29 Oct 03:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
> 29 Oct 01:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 29 Oct 12:05 am telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 28 Oct 11:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 28 Oct 10:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
> 28 Oct 09:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 28 Oct 08:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 28 Oct 07:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
> 28 Oct 06:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 28 Oct 05:05 pm telstra.internet 1 KB 0.01 0.01
> 28 Oct 04:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 28 Oct 03:08 pm telstra.mms 259 KB 0.00 0.00
> 28 Oct 03:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.04
> 28 Oct 02:05 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 28 Oct 01:04 pm telstra.internet 2 KB 0.03 0.03
> 27 Oct 05:57 pm telstra.wap 25 KB 0.34 0.38
> 27 Oct 05:57 pm telstra.media 5 KB 0.00 0.00
> 27 Oct 05:53 pm telstra.wap 462 KB 6.30 6.93
> 27 Oct 04:06 pm telstra.wap 187 KB 2.55 2.80
> 27 Oct 04:06 pm telstra.media 5 KB 0.00 0.00
> 26 Oct 11:27 pm telstra.internet 399 KB 5.44 5.99
> 26 Oct 11:06 pm telstra.internet 421 KB 5.74 6.31
>

Michael wrote:

> Sorry, I don't understand my own bills, so I can't tell you what they mean.
> telstra.wap and telstra.internet are different APNs, but they appear to be
> charged at the same rate.

On a slightly related topic Optus 3G billing can be a little hard to
understand as well. WAP and Internet is charged at 1.5c/KB, but under
their $9.90/month WAP and Internet cap for 2MB, excess data is charged
at 0.3c/KB. This lower rate isn't shown on the bill, just the difference
between 1.5c/KB and 0.3c/KB after 2MB is rebated back as "credit" on the
bill. Quite confusing to get your head around at first.