NextG Data Usage - an Experiment.

Emjaye wrote:

> Tell me - what do the other carriers charge for their mobile data
> services from mobile phones?

I get charged 0.3c/KB with Optus - no flagfall on sessions either. Beats
the **** out of 2.2c/KB plus flagfall with Telstra.

---

› See More: NextG Data Usage - an Experiment.

Kubalister wrote:

> Well the 524 x 564 pixel radar images on the web server of the BOM are
> much larger than the resolution of any phone or PDA so it would be a far
> more intelligent option if data usage is a concern to use a resized
> version available from the Weatherzone site for example.

The BOM radar images loaded just fine on my old 6230 - sure you had to
scroll around the screen but they were full resolution. New Samsung
resizes them though, which is a pity if you're trying to determine when
you're likely to lose your roof

"Albinus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Emjaye wrote:
>
>> Tell me - what do the other carriers charge for their mobile data
>> services from mobile phones?
>
> I get charged 0.3c/KB with Optus - no flagfall on sessions either. Beats
> the **** out of 2.2c/KB plus flagfall with Telstra.

And I get 200mb included for free on my corporate deal - whats your point?

We are talking PAYG rates here. 2.2c/kb GSM or 1.5c/kb on 3G

Michael <[email protected]> wrote
> Albinus <[email protected]> wrote
>> Emjaye wrote

>>> Tell me - what do the other carriers charge for their mobile data services from mobile phones?

>> I get charged 0.3c/KB with Optus - no flagfall on sessions either.
>> Beats the **** out of 2.2c/KB plus flagfall with Telstra.

> And I get 200mb included for free on my corporate deal - whats your point?

That the NextG rates are utterly obscene, stupid.

> We are talking PAYG rates here. 2.2c/kb GSM or 1.5c/kb on 3G

Wrong, as always.

Albinus said....

> I get charged 0.3c/KB with Optus - no flagfall on sessions either. Beats
> the **** out of 2.2c/KB plus flagfall with Telstra.

Unfortunately, if I want the extended coverage that NextG offers
compared to GSM of any flavor, then I'm stuck with Telstra.

Whatever, the 3G stuff won't get used much at all, now that I've got the
required bookmarks loaded and have weaned myself off the initial gadget
fixatation...

On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 04:45:40 +1100 Emjaye may have written:
> Whatever, the 3G stuff won't get used much at all, now that I've got
> the required bookmarks loaded and have weaned myself off the initial
> gadget fixatation...

Don't forget to disable images, javascript, cookies and WML scripts.

PD

--
Paul Day
Web: http://www.enigma.id.au/

The irony is that if Telstra charged less for 3G data, people would use the
services more -> more $ for Telstra by 'growing the market'.
Look at what happened to SMS...


"Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Albinus said....
>
>> I get charged 0.3c/KB with Optus - no flagfall on sessions either. Beats
>> the **** out of 2.2c/KB plus flagfall with Telstra.
>
> Unfortunately, if I want the extended coverage that NextG offers
> compared to GSM of any flavor, then I'm stuck with Telstra.
>
> Whatever, the 3G stuff won't get used much at all, now that I've got the
> required bookmarks loaded and have weaned myself off the initial gadget
> fixatation...
>

"Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Core2Duo said....
>
>> "bloated image laden web sites"
>> maybe he wants to look at the weather charts + radar ...
>
> I have 6 websites currently loaded. My bank's netbank service, the BoM's
> weather radar for Victoria, the BoM's Victorian regional weather
> forecasts, Telstra's Yellow Pages and White Pages and The Age's website.
>
> I am unaware of mobile specific sites for the above services.
>
> Regardless, the amount of data that my phone downloads would be typical
> of any other mobile customer who may not have the "experience" of
> Kubilaster with respect to maximum Internet utilisation. Not all of us
> spend every waking minute in front of a computer and surfing the 'net.

I regularly use weather maps from BOM and WZ, and don't have much download
from them, my data usually only comes to $2-3 per month or thereabouts.

Michael said....

> And I get 200mb included for free on my corporate deal - whats your
> point?

Bully for you. For the plebs, the average consumer who Telstra is
targetting with the various NextG products, it's expensive. That's my
point. Two bucks to load the weather website isn't going to win many
customers over onto 3G, is it?

Kubalister <[email protected]> writes:

>If you were using the net before WWW ruined it with advertisements and
>bloated pages you would know how useful the gopher and ftp pages of the
>BOM were. I miss gopher. All the info you needed without the crap.
>WAP with WML formatting has at least provided a useful compensation.

Yep it was Google before there was such a thing as Google.

Remove spam and banner/pop-up add data traffic and there'd being nothing
going on! lol

It's so hard to use web pages on a cellphone so the telco's are raking in
$$$ for providing more ****e to consumers.

Craig.
--
Guru Will Sellit! ** 'sunrk' on Ebay ** | Get Back on Track at the Sun Shack
Craig Dewick - [email protected] | www.sunshack.org or www.sunshack.info
www.one4sun.net.au [email protected] +--------------------------------------
- Check out my Ebay Store at http://stores.ebay.com.au/Sun-Ripened-Kernels

Simon Templar <[email protected]> writes:

>Kubalister wrote:
>> Well the 524 x 564 pixel radar images on the web server of the BOM are
>> much larger than the resolution of any phone or PDA so it would be a far
>> more intelligent option if data usage is a concern to use a resized
>> version available from the Weatherzone site for example.

>I came across these several years ago:

>http://www.darkside.com.au/map30.php
>http://www.darkside.com.au/map60.php
>http://www.darkside.com.au/map120.php

More interesting are the encryption software packages available for free
from the site. Embedding stuff in whitespace and fiddling of GIF colour maps
is interesting. I bet that's one reason why Unisys is so anal about the
whole GIF patenting issue. 8-)

Craig.
--
Guru Will Sellit! ** 'sunrk' on Ebay ** | Get Back on Track at the Sun Shack
Craig Dewick - [email protected] | www.sunshack.org or www.sunshack.info
www.one4sun.net.au [email protected] +--------------------------------------
- Check out my Ebay Store at http://stores.ebay.com.au/Sun-Ripened-Kernels

Tsunami said....

> I regularly use weather maps from BOM and WZ, and don't have much
> download from them, my data usually only comes to $2-3 per month or
> thereabouts.

What can I say? Your phone provider must have a better deal for its
customers than Telstra's NextG does. I've provided the figures that the
phone is showing when I open one web page, and even just firing up the
web browser in the phone downloads 40 kays of data, or close to a
dollar's worth.

I s'pose I could ask about one of those "data packs", but what for if I
don't regularly use the service?

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
>> Albinus <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Emjaye wrote
>
>>>> Tell me - what do the other carriers charge for their mobile data
>>>> services from mobile phones?
>
>>> I get charged 0.3c/KB with Optus - no flagfall on sessions either.
>>> Beats the **** out of 2.2c/KB plus flagfall with Telstra.
>
>> And I get 200mb included for free on my corporate deal - whats your
>> point?
>
> That the NextG rates are utterly obscene, stupid.
>
>> We are talking PAYG rates here. 2.2c/kb GSM or 1.5c/kb on 3G
>
> Wrong, as always.

The other posters rates of 0.3kb with no flagfall are not PAYG

>
>

"Core2Duo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The irony is that if Telstra charged less for 3G data, people would use
> the services more -> more $ for Telstra by 'growing the market'.

Crap, otherwise Telstra would have done it

> Look at what happened to SMS...

**** example, buddy.

SMS started at 15c on Voda, now its 25c

It started as 20c on Telstra, now its 25c.

Given your example, it should be 3c?

>
>
> "Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Albinus said....
>>
>>> I get charged 0.3c/KB with Optus - no flagfall on sessions either. Beats
>>> the **** out of 2.2c/KB plus flagfall with Telstra.
>>
>> Unfortunately, if I want the extended coverage that NextG offers
>> compared to GSM of any flavor, then I'm stuck with Telstra.
>>
>> Whatever, the 3G stuff won't get used much at all, now that I've got the
>> required bookmarks loaded and have weaned myself off the initial gadget
>> fixatation...
>>
>
>

"Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Michael said....
>
>> And I get 200mb included for free on my corporate deal - whats your
>> point?
>
> Bully for you. For the plebs, the average consumer who Telstra is
> targetting with the various NextG products, it's expensive. That's my
> point. Two bucks to load the weather website isn't going to win many
> customers over onto 3G, is it?

You use Pocketnews for that, stupid
>
>