NextG Data Usage - an Experiment.

Michael <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Albinus <[email protected]> wrote
>>>> Emjaye wrote

>>>>> Tell me - what do the other carriers charge for their mobile data services from mobile phones?

>>>> I get charged 0.3c/KB with Optus - no flagfall on sessions either.
>>>> Beats the **** out of 2.2c/KB plus flagfall with Telstra.

>>> And I get 200mb included for free on my corporate deal - whats your point?

>> That the NextG rates are utterly obscene, stupid.

>>> We are talking PAYG rates here. 2.2c/kb GSM or 1.5c/kb on 3G

>> Wrong, as always.

> The other posters rates of 0.3kb with no flagfall are not PAYG

The other poster is completely irrelevant to what is available with PAYG.

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Michael <[email protected]> wrote
> Core2Duo <[email protected]> wrote

>> The irony is that if Telstra charged less for 3G data, people would
>> use the services more -> more $ for Telstra by 'growing the market'.

> Crap, otherwise Telstra would have done it

Not a ****ing clue, as always.

>> Look at what happened to SMS...

> **** example, buddy.

Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.

> SMS started at 15c on Voda, now its 25c

> It started as 20c on Telstra, now its 25c.

Pity there are plenty have much more of a clue.

> Given your example, it should be 3c?

Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.


>> "Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Albinus said....
>>>
>>>> I get charged 0.3c/KB with Optus - no flagfall on sessions either.
>>>> Beats the **** out of 2.2c/KB plus flagfall with Telstra.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, if I want the extended coverage that NextG offers
>>> compared to GSM of any flavor, then I'm stuck with Telstra.
>>>
>>> Whatever, the 3G stuff won't get used much at all, now that I've
>>> got the required bookmarks loaded and have weaned myself off the
>>> initial gadget fixatation...

Michael wrote:
>
> The other posters rates of 0.3kb with no flagfall are not PAYG

I beg to differ. After the first 2MB for $9.90 it's 0.3c/KB I'm being
charged. Works well for the amount of data I use.

"Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Tsunami said....
>
>> I regularly use weather maps from BOM and WZ, and don't have much
>> download from them, my data usually only comes to $2-3 per month or
>> thereabouts.
>
> What can I say? Your phone provider must have a better deal for its
> customers than Telstra's NextG does. I've provided the figures that the
> phone is showing when I open one web page, and even just firing up the
> web browser in the phone downloads 40 kays of data, or close to a
> dollar's worth.
>
> I s'pose I could ask about one of those "data packs", but what for if I
> don't regularly use the service?

I'm talking Telstra CDMA. I'd look at getting a sales rep to look at the
phone or have it sent away to be checked by the manufacturer.

Kubalister said....

> The Age has a text only version available:
> http://www.theage.com.au/text/

Thanks. I'll give it a try. Compare the data transfer amount from it to
the "graphical" version.

What about the Yellow or Whitepages? There used to be a text-only
version but it seems to have disappeared. That web service is probably
one of the most useful. It allows you to look up a business's or
person's phone number as well as the address, something that the 013 (or
whatever the number is) directory service doesn't do - provide the
address.

Albinus said....

> The BOM radar images loaded just fine on my old 6230 - sure you had to
> scroll around the screen but they were full resolution. New Samsung
> resizes them though, which is a pity if you're trying to determine when
> you're likely to lose your roof

The Samsung A501 displays the BoM weather radar much the same as a PC
does. Just have to scroll around the page. Sometimes, though, it won't
load. Not sure why. Often sits there doing nothing. A refresh sometimes
fixes it.

Michael said....

>> The irony is that if Telstra charged less for 3G data, people would
>> use the services more -> more $ for Telstra by 'growing the market'.
>
> Crap, otherwise Telstra would have done it

Bull****.

Look at its internet costs, for starters. Bigpond's plans are way more
expensive than the average ISPs' ones. It charges for uploaded data.
Others don't.

It's basic mobile services are more expensive than other mobile telcos.
For example, Telstra has no plans comparable to 3's $29/mth capped plan,
which I'd dearly love to get, but cannot. Not out here, anyway.

And where does Telstra get off charging a dollar a minute for timed
calls, whether they be local or long distance? Because it can, that's
why.

Sure, if I don't like the service I can choose not to use it. That's the
free market way. But when a lot of people have no real choice, then it's
invalid to say that Telstra charges what it charges because it "has to",
or "if it could it would charge less".

When a single and relatively small company by world standards makes
multi-billion profits each year compared to telcos elsewhere, then it
hardly stacks up.

You have a compulsion to post your comments and then think later.

You said "Crap, otherwise Telstra would have done it" as if Telstra are
incapable of making mistakes. This attitude makes you either a deluded
apologist or a sycophant.

Marketing 101 teaches the phases of market adoption of a new product eg.
plasma/lcd televisions that come down in price as the market grows.
I used SMS in my previous post as an example of a *growing market*, however
as you correctly pointed out the price of SMS has increased but this is more
an anomaly than the norm. The 3G data market will grow, it's just a case of
how fast. A price drop would encourage data market growth.

Come back Michael with more abuse if you feel so compelled...




"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Core2Duo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> The irony is that if Telstra charged less for 3G data, people would use
>> the services more -> more $ for Telstra by 'growing the market'.
>
> Crap, otherwise Telstra would have done it
>
>> Look at what happened to SMS...
>
> **** example, buddy.
>
> SMS started at 15c on Voda, now its 25c
>
> It started as 20c on Telstra, now its 25c.
>
> Given your example, it should be 3c?
>
>>
>>
>> "Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Albinus said....
>>>
>>>> I get charged 0.3c/KB with Optus - no flagfall on sessions either.
>>>> Beats
>>>> the **** out of 2.2c/KB plus flagfall with Telstra.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, if I want the extended coverage that NextG offers
>>> compared to GSM of any flavor, then I'm stuck with Telstra.
>>>
>>> Whatever, the 3G stuff won't get used much at all, now that I've got the
>>> required bookmarks loaded and have weaned myself off the initial gadget
>>> fixatation...
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 08:06:31 GMT Michael may have written:

> "Core2Duo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > The irony is that if Telstra charged less for 3G data, people would use
> > the services more -> more $ for Telstra by 'growing the market'.

> Crap, otherwise Telstra would have done it

Yeah, coz Telstra are always so quick to react. They did SMS and TV on
your mobile before any other Australia provider!

Not...

PD

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Web: http://www.enigma.id.au/

Emjaye <[email protected]> wrote
> Kubalister said....

>> The Age has a text only version available:
>> http://www.theage.com.au/text/

> Thanks. I'll give it a try. Compare the data transfer
> amount from it to the "graphical" version.

> What about the Yellow or Whitepages? There used to be a text-only
> version but it seems to have disappeared. That web service is probably
> one of the most useful. It allows you to look up a business's or
> person's phone number as well as the address,

Yeah, can be very handy when you think you know where a place is but
it isnt there when you rock up and you need to know where it actually is.

The map is particularly handy with business places particularly.

Not as good as google.maps tho which has the individual house block
boundarys on the maps even in medium sized country towns, leaves
the white pages for dead there, they dont have the street numbers.

> something that the 013 (or whatever the number is)
> directory service doesn't do - provide the address.

Core2Duo said....

> this is more an anomaly than the norm. The 3G data market will grow,
> it's just a case of how fast. A price drop would encourage data market
> growth.

Since the introduction of mobile phones here in Australia what has the
price of a call done? Has it increased, decreased or kept in line with
the CPI?

Please tell us.


"Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Core2Duo said....
>
>> this is more an anomaly than the norm. The 3G data market will grow,
>> it's just a case of how fast. A price drop would encourage data market
>> growth.
>
> Since the introduction of mobile phones here in Australia what has the
> price of a call done? Has it increased, decreased or kept in line with
> the CPI?
>
>

Core2Duo said....

> Please tell us.

Who, me? I asked the question. I was hoping that someone would know the
answer. I don't. Just that it SEEMS like the price of calls from mobiles
has remained high. For example, a basic $30/mth Telstra plan has call
costs at around $1/min., plust around 35c flagfall.

> And where does Telstra get off charging a dollar a minute for timed
> calls, whether they be local or long distance? Because it can, that's
> why.

Telstra dont have timed local calls.

FYI a call from a mobile is a call from a mobile, not a local or LD call.

"Core2Duo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Please tell us.

She/he asked the question, you dick.

> "Emjaye" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Core2Duo said....
>>
>>> this is more an anomaly than the norm. The 3G data market will grow,
>>> it's just a case of how fast. A price drop would encourage data market
>>> growth.
>>
>> Since the introduction of mobile phones here in Australia what has the
>> price of a call done? Has it increased, decreased or kept in line with
>> the CPI?
>>
>>
>
>