LG TU500 & car Kit Problems

"Rod Out Back" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Folks,
>
> Got around to fitting my car kit for the LG phone into the Landcruiser.
> This is
> an LG Badged (Made by Qualcomm??)NextG phone, and I'm not terribly
> impressed
> with either the phone OR the car kit at this stage...I've had it for about
> 4
> weeks now, and what little residual glow of joy with Telstra was left is
> now
> well and truly faded...

Then **** off to GSM and have no coverage

---

› See More: LG TU500 & car Kit Problems

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:29:42 GMT, Rod Out Back
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Folks,
>
>Got around to fitting my car kit for the LG phone into the Landcruiser. This is
>an LG Badged (Made by Qualcomm??)NextG phone, and I'm not terribly impressed
>with either the phone OR the car kit at this stage...I've had it for about 4
>weeks now, and what little residual glow of joy with Telstra was left is now
>well and truly faded...
>
>Sol, Baby, I hope the gerbil of happiness bites your big toe off just AFTER he's
>set fire to your cat...
>
>Battery life sucks big time. Barely a day of life in a new battery on standby,
>and that doesnt include making a call! Even my old Nokia 6385 had 4-5 days on
>standby, and there were much better than mine around... LG dont supply a car
>charger with the phone, but you need to be charging the bloody thing daily. Bit
>of a problem if you dont have a car kit and you're away from 240v power...
>
>Back to the car kit. At least it is cheap. $49 supplied with phone, as opposed
>to about $340 for the same from Nokia (if they still made proper car
>kits)...Mind you, the idea of having to plug the speaker/mic in separately to
>the cradle mount is pretty crap. Also, why would you place the release button
>for the cradle in exactly the same spot as the external volume control buttons?
>That took some serious thought!
>
>It took me some time to work out the power connections required to get the phone
>to work in the car kit. Simply connecting the unit to power isnt enough. The
>minimal instructions with the car kit dont mention how to set it up if you dont
>want it hard-wired to the battery(I only want it charging when key is in & set
>to 'Acc' or 'On'). It requires a power lead running to both the main (+'ve)
>input and the ignition sense lead to get some life out of the kit. This is
>despite there only being power supplied if the key is on....More fool me..
>
>Next problem is the bloody phone doesnt recognise the car kit, despite it
>receiving charge from the kit. The phone sees a headset when the additional
>lead is plugged into the phones speaker/mic socket, but this then excludes 'Car
>Kit' as a profile option on the phones' settings.
>
>Next, we have the joy of needing to answer a phone locked in the car kit. Turns
>out that setting the phone to 'Any key answer' doesnt actually mean the keys on
>the outside of the phone. So, you either need to leave your phone flipped open
>while in the car kit, or need to flip the phone open each time to answer a call.
>This seems to be in part because the headset profile assumes you have a proper
>headset, which actually has a button to answer the call. Unfortunately, the
>pseudoconnection with the car kit doesnt have such a button.
>Pretty neat, hey??
>
>Then, we have the joy of email on the poxed phone. It seems there are 2 or
>possibly 3 ways of accessing my email on the phone, and 2 of them dont work;
>they look to be webmail, but it wont recognise some of the characters I keep
>punching in. Funnily enough, the user name & password is the same as I use on
>the 3rd option, and it works (reasonably). This third option to access email
>(which actually seems to be an application running on the phone) isnt in the
>main menu, and I sort of found it by accident when I pressed a button on the
>outside of the phone.
>
>I would strongly reccommend that people avoid this phone(and Telstra for being
>prepared to sell the bloody thing). I appreciate that there will be people like
>myself who needed a phone immediately, and a car kit was a requirement, but this
>phone sucks! NextG coverage doesnt seem to be that much worse than CDMA at this
>stage, and it is yet to be fully operational. Mind you, I dont use any of the
>video crap, as I just want a phone for being a phone.
>
>So....My question is whether those of you insane enough to want to adopt NextG
>at this early stage have encountered a similar problem(s) with your LG TU500?
>
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Rod.....Out Back

First mistake, LG.

WHY a car kit? Bluetooth is the only reliable way with charging lead.

Don't comment on battery life unless you compare to another 3g phone.
That's about right, one day.

Push email doesn't work on NextG at the moment, don't know about POP
email. It can stop phone calls.

What does the coverage map show for NextG in your area? Don't believe
everything you hear about "superior coverage".

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:29:42 GMT, Rod Out Back
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Folks,
>
>Got around to fitting my car kit for the LG phone into the Landcruiser. This is
>an LG Badged (Made by Qualcomm??)NextG phone, and I'm not terribly impressed
>with either the phone OR the car kit at this stage...I've had it for about 4
>weeks now, and what little residual glow of joy with Telstra was left is now
>well and truly faded...
I had the same issue.

>
>Sol, Baby, I hope the gerbil of happiness bites your big toe off just AFTER he's
>set fire to your cat...
That's putting it more politely than I would have.


>
>Battery life sucks big time. Barely a day of life in a new battery on standby,
>and that doesnt include making a call! Even my old Nokia 6385 had 4-5 days on
>standby, and there were much better than mine around... LG dont supply a car
>charger with the phone, but you need to be charging the bloody thing daily. Bit
>of a problem if you dont have a car kit and you're away from 240v power...
Yes, battery life was one of, if not the biggest killer for this
model.


>
>Back to the car kit. At least it is cheap. $49 supplied with phone, as opposed
>to about $340 for the same from Nokia (if they still made proper car
>kits)...Mind you, the idea of having to plug the speaker/mic in separately to
>the cradle mount is pretty crap. Also, why would you place the release button
>for the cradle in exactly the same spot as the external volume control buttons?
>That took some serious thought!
I was most dissapointed with the carkit. Nokia have a good carkit, the
only thing I can fault them for is no antenna connection pins on the
bottom.


>
>It took me some time to work out the power connections required to get the phone
>to work in the car kit. Simply connecting the unit to power isnt enough. The
>minimal instructions with the car kit dont mention how to set it up if you dont
>want it hard-wired to the battery(I only want it charging when key is in & set
>to 'Acc' or 'On'). It requires a power lead running to both the main (+'ve)
>input and the ignition sense lead to get some life out of the kit. This is
>despite there only being power supplied if the key is on....More fool me..
I was lucky there, I had a Hyundai HGC-120E a whilst back and it had
the same kit, different cradle. Come to think of it, it had a better
cradle, just had to plug the umbilicle to the phone one it was locked.
Anyway most kits seem to have the same/similar wiring harness.


>
>Next problem is the bloody phone doesnt recognise the car kit, despite it
>receiving charge from the kit. The phone sees a headset when the additional
>lead is plugged into the phones speaker/mic socket, but this then excludes 'Car
>Kit' as a profile option on the phones' settings.
I got quite a surprise when I noticed this myself. Makes one wonder.



>
>Next, we have the joy of needing to answer a phone locked in the car kit. Turns
>out that setting the phone to 'Any key answer' doesnt actually mean the keys on
>the outside of the phone. So, you either need to leave your phone flipped open
>while in the car kit, or need to flip the phone open each time to answer a call.
>This seems to be in part because the headset profile assumes you have a proper
>headset, which actually has a button to answer the call. Unfortunately, the
>pseudoconnection with the car kit doesnt have such a button.
>Pretty neat, hey??
I left my phone flipped open all the time to check regularly for
signal strength etc so this wasn't an issue. What was an issue was the
inability to keep the backlight going whilst in the carkit so I could
easily check the screen.



>
>Then, we have the joy of email on the poxed phone. It seems there are 2 or
>possibly 3 ways of accessing my email on the phone, and 2 of them dont work;
>they look to be webmail, but it wont recognise some of the characters I keep
>punching in. Funnily enough, the user name & password is the same as I use on
>the 3rd option, and it works (reasonably). This third option to access email
>(which actually seems to be an application running on the phone) isnt in the
>main menu, and I sort of found it by accident when I pressed a button on the
>outside of the phone.
I never bothered with email on it, data was too expensive to think
about it.

>
>I would strongly reccommend that people avoid this phone(and Telstra for being
>prepared to sell the bloody thing). I appreciate that there will be people like
>myself who needed a phone immediately, and a car kit was a requirement, but this
>phone sucks! NextG coverage doesnt seem to be that much worse than CDMA at this
>stage, and it is yet to be fully operational. Mind you, I dont use any of the
>video crap, as I just want a phone for being a phone.
>
>So....My question is whether those of you insane enough to want to adopt NextG
>at this early stage have encountered a similar problem(s) with your LG TU500?
I tried to give them a chance and it failed misserably in this area.
Even now they still haven't got it working. As per usual, they worried
about the major built up areas (which already have good GSM)
first...quite back to front.

It will take quite a bit to get us (many of the locals and our family)
to trust NextG again. The one time we tried to do a video call, both
phones had full 3G reception and they couldn't keep up with each
other.

Whilst Nokia has it's fair share of problems, as does Sony, I think
that LG could take a look at their technology and use some brain
power. I think I'll wait until Sony or Qualcomm start making
compatible NextG phones and keep using my trusty Nokia 6235 until
then.




>
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Rod.....Out Back

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:06:39 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Rod Out Back" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Folks,
>>
>> Got around to fitting my car kit for the LG phone into the Landcruiser.
>> This is
>> an LG Badged (Made by Qualcomm??)NextG phone, and I'm not terribly
>> impressed
>> with either the phone OR the car kit at this stage...I've had it for about
>> 4
>> weeks now, and what little residual glow of joy with Telstra was left is
>> now
>> well and truly faded...
>
>Then **** off to GSM and have no coverage
>
>


Now that's a good attitude to have... NOT! Does that mean we should
ALL go back to tin cans and string as most of us are dissapointed with
Telstra?

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:46:30 +1000, [email protected] wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:29:42 GMT, Rod Out Back
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Folks,
>>
>>Got around to fitting my car kit for the LG phone into the Landcruiser. This is
>>an LG Badged (Made by Qualcomm??)NextG phone, and I'm not terribly impressed
>>with either the phone OR the car kit at this stage...I've had it for about 4
>>weeks now, and what little residual glow of joy with Telstra was left is now
>>well and truly faded...
>>
>>Sol, Baby, I hope the gerbil of happiness bites your big toe off just AFTER he's
>>set fire to your cat...
>>
>>Battery life sucks big time. Barely a day of life in a new battery on standby,
>>and that doesnt include making a call! Even my old Nokia 6385 had 4-5 days on
>>standby, and there were much better than mine around... LG dont supply a car
>>charger with the phone, but you need to be charging the bloody thing daily. Bit
>>of a problem if you dont have a car kit and you're away from 240v power...
>>
>>Back to the car kit. At least it is cheap. $49 supplied with phone, as opposed
>>to about $340 for the same from Nokia (if they still made proper car
>>kits)...Mind you, the idea of having to plug the speaker/mic in separately to
>>the cradle mount is pretty crap. Also, why would you place the release button
>>for the cradle in exactly the same spot as the external volume control buttons?
>>That took some serious thought!
>>
>>It took me some time to work out the power connections required to get the phone
>>to work in the car kit. Simply connecting the unit to power isnt enough. The
>>minimal instructions with the car kit dont mention how to set it up if you dont
>>want it hard-wired to the battery(I only want it charging when key is in & set
>>to 'Acc' or 'On'). It requires a power lead running to both the main (+'ve)
>>input and the ignition sense lead to get some life out of the kit. This is
>>despite there only being power supplied if the key is on....More fool me..
>>
>>Next problem is the bloody phone doesnt recognise the car kit, despite it
>>receiving charge from the kit. The phone sees a headset when the additional
>>lead is plugged into the phones speaker/mic socket, but this then excludes 'Car
>>Kit' as a profile option on the phones' settings.
>>
>>Next, we have the joy of needing to answer a phone locked in the car kit. Turns
>>out that setting the phone to 'Any key answer' doesnt actually mean the keys on
>>the outside of the phone. So, you either need to leave your phone flipped open
>>while in the car kit, or need to flip the phone open each time to answer a call.
>>This seems to be in part because the headset profile assumes you have a proper
>>headset, which actually has a button to answer the call. Unfortunately, the
>>pseudoconnection with the car kit doesnt have such a button.
>>Pretty neat, hey??
>>
>>Then, we have the joy of email on the poxed phone. It seems there are 2 or
>>possibly 3 ways of accessing my email on the phone, and 2 of them dont work;
>>they look to be webmail, but it wont recognise some of the characters I keep
>>punching in. Funnily enough, the user name & password is the same as I use on
>>the 3rd option, and it works (reasonably). This third option to access email
>>(which actually seems to be an application running on the phone) isnt in the
>>main menu, and I sort of found it by accident when I pressed a button on the
>>outside of the phone.
>>
>>I would strongly reccommend that people avoid this phone(and Telstra for being
>>prepared to sell the bloody thing). I appreciate that there will be people like
>>myself who needed a phone immediately, and a car kit was a requirement, but this
>>phone sucks! NextG coverage doesnt seem to be that much worse than CDMA at this
>>stage, and it is yet to be fully operational. Mind you, I dont use any of the
>>video crap, as I just want a phone for being a phone.
>>
>>So....My question is whether those of you insane enough to want to adopt NextG
>>at this early stage have encountered a similar problem(s) with your LG TU500?
>>
>>
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Rod.....Out Back
>
>First mistake, LG.
>
>WHY a car kit? Bluetooth is the only reliable way with charging lead.
>
>Don't comment on battery life unless you compare to another 3g phone.
>That's about right, one day.
>
>Push email doesn't work on NextG at the moment, don't know about POP
>email. It can stop phone calls.
>
>What does the coverage map show for NextG in your area? Don't believe
>everything you hear about "superior coverage".

I had a carkit for mine (before I sent it back) so that I could
charge, go hands free and mainly to use the external blackstick on the
boot. Our area is challenging for any type of radio signal. Bluetooth
unfortunately just doesnt have the antenna connection, not sure if
they've released a carcharger/antenna patch combo yet.

When compared with a A501, my TU500 was very heavy on the batteries.

As for coverage, our area has car antenna coverage only....then I get
every whako salesperson promising me I dont need an external antenna.
This makes for a good laugh when I tell them to check the map.

"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Rod Out Back" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Folks,
>>
>> Got around to fitting my car kit for the LG phone into the Landcruiser.
>> This is
>> an LG Badged (Made by Qualcomm??)NextG phone, and I'm not terribly
>> impressed
>> with either the phone OR the car kit at this stage...I've had it for
>> about 4
>> weeks now, and what little residual glow of joy with Telstra was left is
>> now
>> well and truly faded...
>
> Then **** off to GSM and have no coverage

Come on Michael, I have exceptable GSM coverage AND a good reliable handset
now, why should I go to a gimmick system with crap handsets?

>>Back to the car kit. At least it is cheap. $49 supplied with phone, as
>>opposed
>>to about $340 for the same from Nokia (if they still made proper car
>>kits)...Mind you, the idea of having to plug the speaker/mic in separately
>>to
>>the cradle mount is pretty crap. Also, why would you place the release
>>button
>>for the cradle in exactly the same spot as the external volume control
>>buttons?
>>That took some serious thought!
> I was most dissapointed with the carkit. Nokia have a good carkit, the
> only thing I can fault them for is no antenna connection pins on the
> bottom.

Nokia only have one cradle that hasnt an aerial conection.

>>Then, we have the joy of email on the poxed phone. It seems there are 2
>>or
>>possibly 3 ways of accessing my email on the phone, and 2 of them dont
>>work;
>>they look to be webmail, but it wont recognise some of the characters I
>>keep
>>punching in. Funnily enough, the user name & password is the same as I
>>use on
>>the 3rd option, and it works (reasonably). This third option to access
>>email
>>(which actually seems to be an application running on the phone) isnt in
>>the
>>main menu, and I sort of found it by accident when I pressed a button on
>>the
>>outside of the phone.

> I never bothered with email on it, data was too expensive to think
> about it.
Thats why we have computers!

> Even now they still haven't got it working. As per usual, they worried
> about the major built up areas (which already have good GSM)
> first...quite back to front.

Not really, it's only the city people who want gimmicks, the rest only want
to make phone calls

> Whilst Nokia has it's fair share of problems, as does Sony, I think
> that LG could take a look at their technology and use some brain
> power. I think I'll wait until Sony or Qualcomm start making
> compatible NextG phones and keep using my trusty Nokia 6235 until
> then.

I can see a long wait for Qualcom.

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:23:56 +1100, "Two Bob" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>>>Back to the car kit. At least it is cheap. $49 supplied with phone, as
>>>opposed
>>>to about $340 for the same from Nokia (if they still made proper car
>>>kits)...Mind you, the idea of having to plug the speaker/mic in separately
>>>to
>>>the cradle mount is pretty crap. Also, why would you place the release
>>>button
>>>for the cradle in exactly the same spot as the external volume control
>>>buttons?
>>>That took some serious thought!
>> I was most dissapointed with the carkit. Nokia have a good carkit, the
>> only thing I can fault them for is no antenna connection pins on the
>> bottom.
>
>Nokia only have one cradle that hasnt an aerial conection.
If you attach the AXF-15s (think that was the model) then yes you do
have an antenna connection, and it does work, just not as good as a
proper hardwire connection.

>
>>>Then, we have the joy of email on the poxed phone. It seems there are 2
>>>or
>>>possibly 3 ways of accessing my email on the phone, and 2 of them dont
>>>work;
>>>they look to be webmail, but it wont recognise some of the characters I
>>>keep
>>>punching in. Funnily enough, the user name & password is the same as I
>>>use on
>>>the 3rd option, and it works (reasonably). This third option to access
>>>email
>>>(which actually seems to be an application running on the phone) isnt in
>>>the
>>>main menu, and I sort of found it by accident when I pressed a button on
>>>the
>>>outside of the phone.
>
>> I never bothered with email on it, data was too expensive to think
>> about it.
>Thats why we have computers!
I'll go with that one


>
>> Even now they still haven't got it working. As per usual, they worried
>> about the major built up areas (which already have good GSM)
>> first...quite back to front.
>
>Not really, it's only the city people who want gimmicks, the rest only want
>to make phone calls
I agree with this to an extent. It does appear VERY orientated at a
competition to 3G in the city rather than a useable solution in the
country.

Everyone here has been reasonably happy with CDMA. I've only met 1
person who was happy with NextG and they migrated from a GSM phone so
wouldn't know the difference anyway. Everyone who has migrated from
CDMA has cursed NextG

The high-speed internet connection would be handy in the country for
many if it was at a competitive price, as most people in the country
still cannot get ADSL and don't want permenant connections. I know I
would find it handy whilst travelling away from home, just not at it's
current cost. I'm not sure what the story is with CDMA modems.

>
>> Whilst Nokia has it's fair share of problems, as does Sony, I think
>> that LG could take a look at their technology and use some brain
>> power. I think I'll wait until Sony or Qualcomm start making
>> compatible NextG phones and keep using my trusty Nokia 6235 until
>> then.
>
>I can see a long wait for Qualcom.
After seeing the current selection of handhelds, and from previous
experience with CDMA, Qualcomm would be the only one I'd really
trust...Nokia is a consideration. Everyone else isn't in the race.
>

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:34:53 GMT, Rod Out Back
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:44:40 +1100,
> and after reading the post titled " Re: LG TU500 & car Kit Problems",
>
> Tsunami Australia <[email protected]> ordered the talented
>chickens to cluck & peck the following:
>
>
>>On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 03:29:42 GMT, Rod Out Back
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Folks,
>>>
>>>Got around to fitting my car kit for the LG phone into the Landcruiser. This is
>>>an LG Badged (Made by Qualcomm??)NextG phone, and I'm not terribly impressed
>>>with either the phone OR the car kit at this stage...I've had it for about 4
>>>weeks now, and what little residual glow of joy with Telstra was left is now
>>>well and truly faded...
>>I had the same issue.
>>
>>>
>>>Sol, Baby, I hope the gerbil of happiness bites your big toe off just AFTER he's
>>>set fire to your cat...
>>That's putting it more politely than I would have.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Battery life sucks big time. Barely a day of life in a new battery on standby,
>>>and that doesnt include making a call! Even my old Nokia 6385 had 4-5 days on
>>>standby, and there were much better than mine around... LG dont supply a car
>>>charger with the phone, but you need to be charging the bloody thing daily. Bit
>>>of a problem if you dont have a car kit and you're away from 240v power...
>>Yes, battery life was one of, if not the biggest killer for this
>>model.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Back to the car kit. At least it is cheap. $49 supplied with phone, as opposed
>>>to about $340 for the same from Nokia (if they still made proper car
>>>kits)...Mind you, the idea of having to plug the speaker/mic in separately to
>>>the cradle mount is pretty crap. Also, why would you place the release button
>>>for the cradle in exactly the same spot as the external volume control buttons?
>>>That took some serious thought!
>>I was most dissapointed with the carkit. Nokia have a good carkit, the
>>only thing I can fault them for is no antenna connection pins on the
>>bottom.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>It took me some time to work out the power connections required to get the phone
>>>to work in the car kit. Simply connecting the unit to power isnt enough. The
>>>minimal instructions with the car kit dont mention how to set it up if you dont
>>>want it hard-wired to the battery(I only want it charging when key is in & set
>>>to 'Acc' or 'On'). It requires a power lead running to both the main (+'ve)
>>>input and the ignition sense lead to get some life out of the kit. This is
>>>despite there only being power supplied if the key is on....More fool me..
>>I was lucky there, I had a Hyundai HGC-120E a whilst back and it had
>>the same kit, different cradle. Come to think of it, it had a better
>>cradle, just had to plug the umbilicle to the phone one it was locked.
>>Anyway most kits seem to have the same/similar wiring harness.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Next problem is the bloody phone doesnt recognise the car kit, despite it
>>>receiving charge from the kit. The phone sees a headset when the additional
>>>lead is plugged into the phones speaker/mic socket, but this then excludes 'Car
>>>Kit' as a profile option on the phones' settings.
>>I got quite a surprise when I noticed this myself. Makes one wonder.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Next, we have the joy of needing to answer a phone locked in the car kit. Turns
>>>out that setting the phone to 'Any key answer' doesnt actually mean the keys on
>>>the outside of the phone. So, you either need to leave your phone flipped open
>>>while in the car kit, or need to flip the phone open each time to answer a call.
>>>This seems to be in part because the headset profile assumes you have a proper
>>>headset, which actually has a button to answer the call. Unfortunately, the
>>>pseudoconnection with the car kit doesnt have such a button.
>>>Pretty neat, hey??
>>I left my phone flipped open all the time to check regularly for
>>signal strength etc so this wasn't an issue. What was an issue was the
>>inability to keep the backlight going whilst in the carkit so I could
>>easily check the screen.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Then, we have the joy of email on the poxed phone. It seems there are 2 or
>>>possibly 3 ways of accessing my email on the phone, and 2 of them dont work;
>>>they look to be webmail, but it wont recognise some of the characters I keep
>>>punching in. Funnily enough, the user name & password is the same as I use on
>>>the 3rd option, and it works (reasonably). This third option to access email
>>>(which actually seems to be an application running on the phone) isnt in the
>>>main menu, and I sort of found it by accident when I pressed a button on the
>>>outside of the phone.
>>I never bothered with email on it, data was too expensive to think
>>about it.
>>
>>>
>>>I would strongly reccommend that people avoid this phone(and Telstra for being
>>>prepared to sell the bloody thing). I appreciate that there will be people like
>>>myself who needed a phone immediately, and a car kit was a requirement, but this
>>>phone sucks! NextG coverage doesnt seem to be that much worse than CDMA at this
>>>stage, and it is yet to be fully operational. Mind you, I dont use any of the
>>>video crap, as I just want a phone for being a phone.
>>>
>>>So....My question is whether those of you insane enough to want to adopt NextG
>>>at this early stage have encountered a similar problem(s) with your LG TU500?
>>I tried to give them a chance and it failed misserably in this area.
>>Even now they still haven't got it working. As per usual, they worried
>>about the major built up areas (which already have good GSM)
>>first...quite back to front.
>>
>>It will take quite a bit to get us (many of the locals and our family)
>>to trust NextG again. The one time we tried to do a video call, both
>>phones had full 3G reception and they couldn't keep up with each
>>other.
>>
>>Whilst Nokia has it's fair share of problems, as does Sony, I think
>>that LG could take a look at their technology and use some brain
>>power. I think I'll wait until Sony or Qualcomm start making
>>compatible NextG phones and keep using my trusty Nokia 6235 until
>>then.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Rod.....Out Back
>
>Tsunami,
>
>The LG TU500 phone is made by Qualcomm, or at least it has a badge saying
>'Qualcomm 3G UMTS'....
>
>Sorry to break it to you.
>
>Yes, I forgot to mention the problem with not being able to set the backlight
>timer to be always on when the car kit is on. This is probably another feature
>that would resolve itself if the phone recognised the car kit.
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Rod.....Out Back

I think you'll find that LG made the phone and Qualcomm made the
chipset as they have patents (not sure which) on CDMA/W-CDMA
technology.

"Tsunami Australia" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:06:39 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Rod Out Back" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> Got around to fitting my car kit for the LG phone into the Landcruiser.
>>> This is
>>> an LG Badged (Made by Qualcomm??)NextG phone, and I'm not terribly
>>> impressed
>>> with either the phone OR the car kit at this stage...I've had it for
>>> about
>>> 4
>>> weeks now, and what little residual glow of joy with Telstra was left is
>>> now
>>> well and truly faded...
>>
>>Then **** off to GSM and have no coverage
>>
>>
>
>
> Now that's a good attitude to have... NOT! Does that mean we should
> ALL go back to tin cans and string as most of us are dissapointed with
> Telstra?

Your problem that you live in the part of australia that has no coverage (2%
of the pop.)

>> Come on Michael, I have exceptable GSM coverage AND a good reliable
>> handset now, why should I go to a gimmick system with crap handsets?
>
> Which handsets are crap?

In my opinion, all of them.

>>Nokia only have one cradle that hasnt an aerial conection.
> If you attach the AXF-15s (think that was the model) then yes you do
> have an antenna connection, and it does work, just not as good as a
> proper hardwire connection.

You are thinking of the standard cradle (used for CDMA), there is another
than has no aerial connection at all, and the AXF-15 wont fit at all. 6230
from memory.


>>I can see a long wait for Qualcom.
> After seeing the current selection of handhelds, and from previous
> experience with CDMA, Qualcomm would be the only one I'd really
> trust...Nokia is a consideration. Everyone else isn't in the race.

As far as I know, Qualcom doesnt make handsets anymore, they are now
Kyocera. Ha! from American to Korean, what a joke, (fryingpan to fire). The
Qualcom sticker on the phones is to tell us that the phone is using licenced
Qualcom technology (eg. chipsets?)

> Hi All,
> I am experiencing the same problem with the car kit that others have
> talked about here ie the phone does not recognise it is in a car kit and
> goes into headphone mode when the unbilical cord is plugged in. Also the
> phone does

Wont happen! The phone was not designed for a car kit, and the kit is
aftermarket.


> not commence charging when in the cradle no matter what position the key
> is in or whether the phone is turned on or off. The wiring is correct and
> has been belled out and checked several times to be sure. The mute wire is
> not used. I am curious, did any one resolve these problems sucessfully and
> if so how?