Telstra NEXT-G Prepaid

When will Telstra release NEXT-G Prepaid?

Rather than belly-aching about Optus wanting to piggy-back onto
resold-NEXT-G, Telstra should pull their finger out and provide their
existing CDMA prepaid users with a product to migrate too. Stuffed if I am
going to sign a 2 year contract with them to get onto NEXT-G, a largely
unproven technology.



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thegoons <[email protected]> wrote:
> When will Telstra release NEXT-G Prepaid?
>
> Rather than belly-aching about Optus wanting to piggy-back onto
> resold-NEXT-G, Telstra should pull their finger out and provide their
> existing CDMA prepaid users with a product to migrate too. Stuffed if
> I am going to sign a 2 year contract with them to get onto NEXT-G, a
> largely unproven technology.

You dont have to contract to get NextG.

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> thegoons <[email protected]> wrote:
>> When will Telstra release NEXT-G Prepaid?
>>
>> Rather than belly-aching about Optus wanting to piggy-back onto
>> resold-NEXT-G, Telstra should pull their finger out and provide their
>> existing CDMA prepaid users with a product to migrate too. Stuffed if
>> I am going to sign a 2 year contract with them to get onto NEXT-G, a
>> largely unproven technology.
>
> You dont have to contract to get NextG.
>
OK, let me re-phrase that.I am going to move to post-paid with them to get
onto NEXT-G, a largely unproven technology.



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"thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> When will Telstra release NEXT-G Prepaid?

Soon. You asked this a while ago

> Rather than belly-aching about Optus wanting to piggy-back onto
> resold-NEXT-G, Telstra should pull their finger out and provide their
> existing CDMA prepaid users with a product to migrate too. Stuffed if I am
> going to sign a 2 year contract with them to get onto NEXT-G, a largely
> unproven technology.

I migrated my CDMA prepaid to GSM prepaid

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"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> When will Telstra release NEXT-G Prepaid?
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> Soon. You asked this a while ago

Yes I know but Telstra shops etc still unsure and don;t care. Yet the
"now-we-are-talking" mob never shut-up bellyaching about Optus wanting to
get on NEXT-G. If they had half a clue they would snap-up many of the Optus
CDMA customers now by luring them over to Prepaid NEXT-G. Sol Trujiullo
never has or ever will have a clue, apart from fleecing the company for a
ridiculous income stream. Blame Howard for that, he hired him.
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>> Rather than belly-aching about Optus wanting to piggy-back onto
>> resold-NEXT-G, Telstra should pull their finger out and provide their
>> existing CDMA prepaid users with a product to migrate too. Stuffed if I
>> am going to sign a 2 year contract with them to get onto NEXT-G, a
>> largely unproven technology.
>
> I migrated my CDMA prepaid to GSM prepaid
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"Paul Day" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 23:56:20 GMT Michael may have written:
>> > When will Telstra release NEXT-G Prepaid?
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>> Soon.
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> No longer specifying on these things Michael?

Next few months
Products being built now.

>> I migrated my CDMA prepaid to GSM prepaid
>
> I assume lots of people who don't need CDMA's extra coverage have. The
> original poster obviously requires the extra coverage.

Nope, you cant assume that'

On 4 Mar 2007 13:18:06 +0800, Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 11:56:28 +1100 thegoons may have written:
>> Yes I know but Telstra shops etc still unsure and don;t care. Yet the
>> "now-we-are-talking" mob never shut-up bellyaching about Optus wanting to
>> get on NEXT-G. If they had half a clue they would snap-up many of the Optus
>> CDMA customers now by luring them over to Prepaid NEXT-G. Sol Trujiullo
>> never has or ever will have a clue,
>
>http://www.asx.com.au/asx/research/C...on&asxCode=tls
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>Looking at that share price trend, something's going his way.

Only because he's not talking it down like he used to - "wouldn't recommend them
to my mother"

"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Paul Day" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 23:56:20 GMT Michael may have written:
>>> > When will Telstra release NEXT-G Prepaid?
>>>
>>> Soon.
>>
>> No longer specifying on these things Michael?
>
> Next few months
> Products being built now.
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>>> I migrated my CDMA prepaid to GSM prepaid
>>
>> I assume lots of people who don't need CDMA's extra coverage have. The
>> original poster obviously requires the extra coverage.
>
> Nope, you cant assume that'
>
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OK, I will confirm that. I need the extra coverage and I prefer CDMA.

If Telstra had half a clue, they'd set-up prepaid on NEXT-G now and woo many
off Vodafone/Optus/Three prepaid and push the new video-calling etc. Though
I cannot assume anyone in Telstra has any clue.



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Try to understand this.... Prepaid is not Telstra's preferred market.
Fact is, they have a monoply with respect to next G. Why would they
possibly risk loosing some of the customers from Plans to prepaid.

Now, I don't know a lot about telstra's business, so this is all based
on assumptions:

With A plan, telstra pays a retailer 10% of the total bill or so. rest
is all profit
With prepaid, they have to provide a profit to the retailer, (i assume
this is more than 15% as K - mart frequently offers this off a recharge
price), and also encourage a consumer to recharge (thats why they offer
recharge bonuses). Additionally, they have to compete with better
plans. Take for example hte freedom plan on prepaid, can you find me
even one thing on post paid that remotely compares?

Any carrier wants to keep as many customers on Post paid as long as
possible.

Providing a Next G prepaid service will certainly encourage some users
to go to a prepaid rate plan, but at the same time, It will also
encourage some on plans to go onto prepaid.

I'll admit I'm a cheepskate, and I never pay retail for my recharge
cards. Whenever I get a special, i usually buy a 6 months supply. U
can't do that with post paid. Also, you don't have as much control
over costs, the ball is in the providers court with post paid. Who
wants to loose power?

I doubt very much Telstra will be releasing NextG on prepaid untill it
sees some more competition. As much as I dislike Telstra, I have to
admit they have the most competitive prepaid rate plans of all 4 major
providers.


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On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:57:06 +1100, Unkit
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'll admit I'm a cheepskate, and I never pay retail for my recharge
>cards. Whenever I get a special, i usually buy a 6 months supply. U
>can't do that with post paid.

No....but you can get your postpaid account into credit.
I do it through internet banking whenever I have a few extra dollars.


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Unkit <[email protected]> wrote:

> Try to understand this.... Prepaid is not Telstra's preferred market.
> Fact is, they have a monoply with respect to next G. Why would they
> possibly risk loosing some of the customers from Plans to prepaid.

Particularly when povs, druggys and children have never been
the market for prepaid and the prepaid market is completely
driven by the price and that its only GSM that can ever hope
to do any well at that end of the market for that reason.

> Now, I don't know a lot about telstra's business,
> so this is all based on assumptions:

> With A plan, telstra pays a retailer 10% of the total bill or so.
> rest is all profit With prepaid, they have to provide a profit to
> the retailer, (i assume this is more than 15% as K - mart
> frequently offers this off a recharge price), and also encourage
> a consumer to recharge (thats why they offer recharge bonuses).

And GSM will always have much cheaper handsets
because thats the world wide volume market.

> Additionally, they have to compete with better plans.
> Take for example hte freedom plan on prepaid, can you
> find me even one thing on post paid that remotely compares?

> Any carrier wants to keep as many customers on Post paid as long as possible.

The prepaid market is completely different.

> Providing a Next G prepaid service will certainly encourage
> some users to go to a prepaid rate plan, but at the same
> time, It will also encourage some on plans to go onto prepaid.

I doubt it. Its much more about the basics like the wholesale price of the handsets etc.

> I'll admit I'm a cheepskate, and I never pay retail for my recharge
> cards. Whenever I get a special, i usually buy a 6 months supply.
> U can't do that with post paid. Also, you don't have as much
> control over costs, the ball is in the providers court with post
> paid. Who wants to loose power?

> I doubt very much Telstra will be releasing NextG on prepaid untill it sees
> some more competition. As much as I dislike Telstra, I have to admit they
> have the most competitive prepaid rate plans of all 4 major providers.

Most buyers of prepaid handsets dont take much notice of the rates.

If it was all about wholesale handsets, you would be able to buy a
connection pack atleast.

As far as I am aware I can not go out buy a NextG handset outright and
then have it on a prepaid connection.

Please correct me if i am wrong.


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Unkit <[email protected]> wrote:

> If it was all about wholesale handsets, you
> would be able to buy a connection pack atleast.

God knows what this is about.

> As far as I am aware I can not go out buy a NextG handset
> outright and then have it on a prepaid connection.

Just because telstra hasnt bothered with prepaid on that service,
because it would never attract very many prepaid customers at all.
Those are the povs druggys and children who care about the handset cost.

Some of the druggys who grow their own drugs would presumably
like to be able to have a NextG service, but even telstra isnt that
much of a **** that its panders to their preference for prepaid.

> Please correct me if i am wrong.

You always are.

Wow, that post was so enlightning. Unfortunately your words of wisdom
shed absolutely no light on the subject.

You argued that Next G was not being released on prepay because of the
cost of wholesale handsets. I simply asked if there was a connection
pack available if you choose to buy your own handset.

Perhaps the majority of prepaid users can be categorised as you say,
but don't forget, there are always exceptions. For example, people who
keep a prepaid CDMA, or if available, a next G handset for coverage
purposes when their main handset is GSM.

You may even shudder to think, some people use prepaid because they
have best deals available on prepaid. I for one, love the fact that I
can any of my family members, who are interstate, for Nothing 24 hours
of the day 7 days a week.


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Unkit <[email protected]> wrote:

> Wow, that post was so enlightning. Unfortunately your
> words of wisdom shed absolutely no light on the subject.

Thats what any stone would claim too.

> You argued that Next G was not being released on
> prepay because of the cost of wholesale handsets.

Like hell I did.

> I simply asked if there was a connection pack
> available if you choose to buy your own handset.

Why bother to have one if almost no prepaid povs, druggys and kids
would go that route when they can get GSM handsets much cheaper ?

> Perhaps the majority of prepaid users can be categorised
> as you say, but don't forget, there are always exceptions.

What matters is whether the number of the exceptions can ever hope to be enough
to recover the cost of setting up and running prepaid on the NextG network.

> For example, people who keep a prepaid CDMA, or if available, a next
> G handset for coverage purposes when their main handset is GSM.

What matters is whether the number of the exceptions can ever hope to be enough
to recover the cost of setting up and running prepaid on the NextG network.

> You may even shudder to think, some people use prepaid
> because they have best deals available on prepaid.

Telstra doesnt give a flying red **** about those,
its never attempted to corner that particular market.

And what matters is whether the number of the exceptions can ever hope to be
enough to recover the cost of setting up and running prepaid on the NextG network.

> I for one, love the fact that I can any of my family members, who
> are interstate, for Nothing 24 hours of the day 7 days a week.

What matters is whether the number of the exceptions can ever hope to be enough
to recover the cost of setting up and running prepaid on the NextG network.