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  1. #1
    thegoons
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    Both Optus Prepaid and Vodafone Prepaid offer international roaming.

    Yet, Telstra Prepaid Plus still does not.

    Further and further behind.



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  2. #2
    Albinus
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    Re: Telstra further and further behind

    thegoons wrote:
    > Both Optus Prepaid and Vodafone Prepaid offer international roaming.


    And it actually works! Optus prepaid roamed seamlessly on Cingular in
    the US. Even recharging/balance checks were still free.



  3. #3
    davmel
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    Re: Telstra further and further behind

    Simon Templar wrote:
    > On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:22:00 +1100, davmel
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> The only ones that are further and further behind are Optus and Vodafone
    >> which haven't even rolled out EDGE on their GSM networks and have
    >> pathetic coverage on their 3G networks.

    >
    > The only reason Te$tra has a half decent 3G network is because they
    > are leaching off 3 who started the roll out years ago!


    3 would most likely have gone under if it wasn't for the badly needed
    funding and spectrum donated by Telstra for the joint UMTS 2100 network.
    It's interesting that you use the word leaching but you've described it
    the wrong way around. It's 3 that are leaching off the Telstra GSM
    network and using Telstra licensed spectrum because 3 couldn't afford to
    buy the licence fees for anything but a few capitals let alone afford to
    build anything but a tiny network without funding from Telstra.

    Anyway, the decent coverage 3G network that Telstra built in the 850
    band has NOTHING to do with 3 and its ****e network.

    > Te$tra might have reasonable coverage but they are a complete rip off,
    > especially now that they are lining Sol's pockets and filling up his
    > bank accounts.


    How are they a rip off? The Get Connected and Business Untimed plans are
    excellent value. Do the other carriers offer untimed plans to landline
    numbers?
    I think your racist and tall poppy syndrome induced comments are merely
    a diversion from providing valid commentary about anything to do with
    Telstra.
    If you want to send your money overseas by supporting foreign owned
    company networks then that's your choice but don't start a racist
    hyperbole about a SINGLE individual in Telstra. Do you have some sort of
    ethical objection to a company CEO actually making money? Do you think
    that they should do their job for free on a work for the dole scheme?
    It's strange how you object to anything that Sol does even though it's
    improving the efficiency of an Australian company.



  4. #4
    thegoons
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    Re: Telstra further and further behind


    "davmel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Simon Templar wrote:
    >> On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:22:00 +1100, davmel
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> The only ones that are further and further behind are Optus and Vodafone
    >>> which haven't even rolled out EDGE on their GSM networks and have
    >>> pathetic coverage on their 3G networks.

    >>
    >> The only reason Te$tra has a half decent 3G network is because they
    >> are leaching off 3 who started the roll out years ago!

    >
    > 3 would most likely have gone under if it wasn't for the badly needed
    > funding and spectrum donated by Telstra for the joint UMTS 2100 network.


    It was a commercial arrangement. No "donation" of spectrum ever took place.
    And it is not a joint UMTS network; all 2100MHz network infrastructure is
    owned bu Hutchinson Whampoa (3).

    > It's interesting that you use the word leaching but you've described it
    > the wrong way around. It's 3 that are leaching off the Telstra GSM network
    > and using Telstra licensed spectrum because 3 couldn't afford to buy the
    > licence fees for anything but a few capitals let alone afford to build
    > anything but a tiny network without funding from Telstra.


    Hutchinson managed fine with a previous commercial agreement with Vodafone.
    Hardly leaching. They are fully piggybacking on the Telstra network under a
    commericla agreement, hardly "leaching".

    >
    > Anyway, the decent coverage 3G network that Telstra built in the 850 band
    > has NOTHING to do with 3 and its ****e network.
    >

    Nobody said it did dunnychild

    >> Te$tra might have reasonable coverage but they are a complete rip off,
    >> especially now that they are lining Sol's pockets and filling up his
    >> bank accounts.

    >
    > How are they a rip off? The Get Connected and Business Untimed plans are
    > excellent value. Do the other carriers offer untimed plans to landline
    > numbers?
    > I think your racist and tall poppy syndrome induced comments are merely a
    > diversion from providing valid commentary about anything to do with
    > Telstra.
    > If you want to send your money overseas by supporting foreign owned
    > company networks then that's your choice but don't start a racist
    > hyperbole about a SINGLE individual in Telstra. Do you have some sort of
    > ethical objection to a company CEO actually making money? Do you think
    > that they should do their job for free on a work for the dole scheme? It's
    > strange how you object to anything that Sol does even though it's
    > improving the efficiency of an Australian company.


    Telstra is not an Australian company anymore



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  5. #5
    James Bell
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    Re: Telstra further and further behind


    "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Both Optus Prepaid and Vodafone Prepaid offer international roaming.
    >
    > Yet, Telstra Prepaid Plus still does not.
    >
    > Further and further behind.



    It's a different service.. you're not comparing apples with apples.

    For example, I've just completed an outback tour north of Perth - the
    non-Telstra coverage is absolutely *woeful*. Telstra provides by far the
    best service around there.

    You have a choice as to which carrier to use. Some offer different things
    than others, so use whatever works for you. Remember though, Telstra cares
    about Australia and keeps your $ here, unlike that foreign muck.





  6. #6
    Rod Speed
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    Re: Telstra further and further behind

    thegoons <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Both Optus Prepaid and Vodafone Prepaid offer international roaming.


    > Yet, Telstra Prepaid Plus still does not.


    Who cares ? Only povs, druggys and children use prepaid.





  7. #7
    Rod Speed
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    Re: Telstra further and further behind

    davmel <[email protected]> wrote:
    > thegoons wrote:
    >> Both Optus Prepaid and Vodafone Prepaid offer international roaming.
    >>
    >> Yet, Telstra Prepaid Plus still does not.
    >>
    >> Further and further behind.

    >
    > Why would Telstra bother with improving low value pre-paid service
    > options when it has more important features to improve on like
    > building a nationwide UMTS network for it's high value post-paid
    > customers to use.
    > The only ones that are further and further behind are Optus and
    > Vodafone which haven't even rolled out EDGE on their GSM networks and
    > have pathetic coverage on their 3G networks.
    >
    > As Rod Speed has so delightfully described in the past, pre-paid is
    > only for povs, druggies and kiddies. I'm sure Telstra would love it
    > if all the pre-paid customers went to another network


    Bet they arent that stupid. There is plenty of money to be made in that market.

    **** all of them would bother with international roaming except the druggys tho.

    > and in exchange Telstra picked up more post-paid customers from competing networks.


    That wouldnt happen. In fact telstra was last with the
    best offers for those, most obviously with the caps.





  8. #8
    Simon Templar
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    Re: Telstra further and further behind

    On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 02:18:49 +1100, davmel
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Really? Is the company now based out of some other country now? If
    >that's the case I must have missed the news announcement. Would you care
    >to point out the press release which stated that Telstra was moving
    >offshore?


    The vast bulk of it's earnings is rapidly moving off shore into Sol's
    bank accounts. Rest assured he will be back in the US just days
    before Te$tra goes belly up because of him.

    I've said all along with a country the size of Australia it is crazy
    to have multiple telecommunications networks. Te$tra should have been
    made completely wholesale years ago and only provide infrastructure
    for mobile, landline and Internet services.

    The competition should be at the retail end with resellers.


    The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I
    may belong to.

    73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
    <http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>



  9. #9
    Simon Templar
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    Re: Telstra further and further behind

    On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:30:48 GMT, "James Bell" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >You have a choice as to which carrier to use. Some offer different things
    >than others, so use whatever works for you. Remember though, Telstra cares
    >about Australia and keeps your $ here, unlike that foreign muck.


    Crap, all the money is going into Sol's offshore bank accounts.


    The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I
    may belong to.

    73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
    <http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>



  10. #10
    thegoons
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    Re: Telstra further and further behind


    "davmel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >>> Anyway, the decent coverage 3G network that Telstra built in the 850
    >>> band has NOTHING to do with 3 and its ****e network.
    >>>

    >> Nobody said it did dunnychild

    >
    > Well dip****. The terms "decent" and "3" are mutually exclusive. The only
    > 3G network that comes close to being decent is the UMTS 850 network.


    Funny how Hutchinson managed to be able to operate and market that
    "non-decent" network (augmented by 2G outside 3 coverage areas) for several
    years without going belly-up.
    >
    >> Telstra is not an Australian company anymore

    >
    > Really? Is the company now based out of some other country now? If that's
    > the case I must have missed the news announcement. Would you care to point
    > out the press release which stated that Telstra was moving offshore?


    Telstra's HQ is still based here, but hardly an "Australian company" with so
    many off-shore investors. Are you telling me that every Telstra shareholder
    is an Australian citizen? Grow a brain. Would you like to declare your
    interest in Telstra now or later? Sol apologist!



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  11. #11
    thegoons
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    Re: Telstra further and further behind


    "James Bell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Both Optus Prepaid and Vodafone Prepaid offer international roaming.
    >>
    >> Yet, Telstra Prepaid Plus still does not.
    >>
    >> Further and further behind.

    >
    >
    > It's a different service.. you're not comparing apples with apples.
    >
    > For example, I've just completed an outback tour north of Perth - the
    > non-Telstra coverage is absolutely *woeful*. Telstra provides by far the
    > best service around there.
    >
    > You have a choice as to which carrier to use. Some offer different things
    > than others, so use whatever works for you. Remember though, Telstra cares
    > about Australia and keeps your $ here, unlike that foreign muck.
    >


    OK agreed, but I want to do international roaming. So, if you want me to
    support Telstra, then tell them to pull their finger out, activate NEXT-G
    prepaid and international roaming.



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  12. #12
    Nole Boaday
    Guest

    Re: Telstra further and further behind

    James Bell wrote:
    > For example, I've just completed an outback tour north of Perth


    No you didn't.



  13. #13
    Nole Boaday
    Guest

    Re: Telstra further and further behind

    Rod Speed wrote:
    > thegoons <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> Both Optus Prepaid and Vodafone Prepaid offer international roaming.

    >
    >> Yet, Telstra Prepaid Plus still does not.

    >
    > Who cares ? Only povs, druggys and children use prepaid.


    Yeah, the hundrends of millions plus in revenue of povs, druggys and
    children.

    Terminal ****wit.



  14. #14
    Simon Templar
    Guest

    Re: Telstra further and further behind

    On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:33:23 +1100, davmel
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >When did Sol buy 100% of Telstra's shares?


    He doesn't have to, he is gutting the company and taking as much money
    out of it as he can before he decamps back to the US.


    The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I
    may belong to.

    73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
    <http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>



  15. #15
    davmel
    Guest

    Re: Telstra further and further behind

    Nole Boaday wrote:
    > Rod Speed wrote:
    >> thegoons <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Both Optus Prepaid and Vodafone Prepaid offer international roaming.

    >>
    >>> Yet, Telstra Prepaid Plus still does not.

    >>
    >> Who cares ? Only povs, druggys and children use prepaid.

    >
    > Yeah, the hundrends of millions plus in revenue of povs, druggys and
    > children.


    The povs, druggies and kiddies can't afford to go overseas just like
    they can't afford to have a post-paid mobile account. Why provide a
    service when the market doesn't exist?



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