Optus 2.5G

When I turned my phone on this morning, there was an SMS waiting for
me. It was one I sent to myself from another phone, as a test, in
December. Had been received and deleted then.
Also, there was a new icon on the screen (WAP, I think). And the 2G
icon had changed to 2.5G.
I guess there has been a local upgrade on the NSW North Coast..
No idea how to use it, though....can't find the book.
Doesn't matter.....don't need anything I haven't been using, anyway.
Just thought it interesting.

Motorola V3x, BTW.


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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:15:35 GMT, brian w edginton
<[email protected]> wrote:

>When I turned my phone on this morning, there was an SMS waiting for
>me. It was one I sent to myself from another phone, as a test, in
>December. Had been received and deleted then.
>Also, there was a new icon on the screen (WAP, I think). And the 2G
>icon had changed to 2.5G.
>I guess there has been a local upgrade on the NSW North Coast..
>No idea how to use it, though....can't find the book.
>Doesn't matter.....don't need anything I haven't been using, anyway.
>Just thought it interesting.
>
>Motorola V3x, BTW.



Umm.....changed back to 2G.
Now I have what looks like a GPRS icon....other one is gone. I think
it indicated PDP (whatever that is)....found the book.
Didn't have either the GPRS or PDP icons yesterday.



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On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:15:35 GMT, brian w edginton
<[email protected]> wrote:

>When I turned my phone on this morning, there was an SMS waiting for
>me. It was one I sent to myself from another phone, as a test, in
>December. Had been received and deleted then.

Maybe they had a Network failure somewhere to do with SMS and
installed a backup file from back then.

>Also, there was a new icon on the screen (WAP, I think). And the 2G
>icon had changed to 2.5G.

I've never seen a 2.5G Icon before. If it was a G instead of the
antenna it means 3G, so maybe they are in the process of upgrading to
3G in your area.

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<http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:29:35 +1000, Simon Templar <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I've never seen a 2.5G Icon before. If it was a G instead of the
>antenna it means 3G, so maybe they are in the process of upgrading to
>3G in your area.


First time I have seen it, also.
But it was there....alongside the antenna icon.

Have checked the book....2.5 IS listed as an icon.


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"Simon Templar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:15:35 GMT, brian w edginton
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>When I turned my phone on this morning, there was an SMS waiting for
>>me. It was one I sent to myself from another phone, as a test, in
>>December. Had been received and deleted then.
>
> Maybe they had a Network failure somewhere to do with SMS and
> installed a backup file from back then.
>
>>Also, there was a new icon on the screen (WAP, I think). And the 2G
>>icon had changed to 2.5G.
>
> I've never seen a 2.5G Icon before. If it was a G instead of the
> antenna it means 3G, so maybe they are in the process of upgrading to
> 3G in your area.

he doesnt have a 3g phone from memory
>
> --
> The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I
> may belong to.
>
> 73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
> <http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>

> he doesnt have a 3g phone from memory
He clearly stated owning a Motorola V3X which is most definatly a 3G phone.

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:57:13 +0800, Jonathan Wilson
<[email protected]> wrote:

>> he doesnt have a 3g phone from memory
>He clearly stated owning a Motorola V3X which is most definatly a 3G phone.


True!
I did say that!


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I had that happen on my v3x in Perth a few months ago, but it's still
pretty patchy, keeps changing from 3G to 2.5 and 2G, so I set it to stay
on 2/2.5G.

I'll wait a few more months before I change it back to auto.


brian w edginton wrote:
> When I turned my phone on this morning, there was an SMS waiting for
> me. It was one I sent to myself from another phone, as a test, in
> December. Had been received and deleted then.
> Also, there was a new icon on the screen (WAP, I think). And the 2G
> icon had changed to 2.5G.
> I guess there has been a local upgrade on the NSW North Coast..
> No idea how to use it, though....can't find the book.
> Doesn't matter.....don't need anything I haven't been using, anyway.
> Just thought it interesting.
>
> Motorola V3x, BTW.
>
>
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:26:29 +0800, Carsten Bauer <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I had that happen on my v3x in Perth a few months ago, but it's still
>pretty patchy, keeps changing from 3G to 2.5 and 2G, so I set it to stay
>on 2/2.5G.
>
>I'll wait a few more months before I change it back to auto.
>
>


Happened again this morning. Turned the phone on at 5 AM. Was
2.5G.....looked again at 9 AM and it was 2G again.
My SIM is a few years old....so I assume it is 2G.
Could Optus have changed the local setup recently? And, maybe, my SIM
is having problems coping?
No idea.
Would ring Optus.....but help lines drive me crazy. Only use them as a
last resort.

When on 2G, I get a Data icon.
When I am on 2.5G, a Packet Data Available icon.
Didn't get either until recently.
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On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:26:29 +0800 Carsten Bauer may have written:
> I had that happen on my v3x in Perth a few months ago, but it's still
> pretty patchy, keeps changing from 3G to 2.5 and 2G, so I set it to stay
> on 2/2.5G.

There are parts of Optus' GSM network that don't even support GPRS (ie,
they're "2G")? How quaint.

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On 4 Apr 2007 11:17:04 +0800, Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 01:26:29 +0800 Carsten Bauer may have written:
>> I had that happen on my v3x in Perth a few months ago, but it's still
>> pretty patchy, keeps changing from 3G to 2.5 and 2G, so I set it to stay
>> on 2/2.5G.
>
>There are parts of Optus' GSM network that don't even support GPRS (ie,
>they're "2G")? How quaint.
>
>PD


So.....got an explanation for our experiences?

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Paul Day wrote:

> There are parts of Optus' GSM network that don't even support
> GPRS (ie, they're "2G")? How quaint.

These days the usual explanation for cells lacking GPRS is that
they're extended range cells, found in just a few rural
locations. These sacrifice half the available timeslots so as
to break the 35 km limit imposed by timing advance. Only half
the number of concurrent calls are possible as a result.

As far as I'm aware, only Ericsson make extended range cells,
and they haven't found it economical to tackle the work
required to get GPRS operating in this tiny, uniquely
Australian specialty market.

John

On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:59:09 +1000, John Henderson
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Paul Day wrote:
>
>> There are parts of Optus' GSM network that don't even support
>> GPRS (ie, they're "2G")? How quaint.
>
>These days the usual explanation for cells lacking GPRS is that
>they're extended range cells, found in just a few rural
>locations. These sacrifice half the available timeslots so as
>to break the 35 km limit imposed by timing advance. Only half
>the number of concurrent calls are possible as a result.
>
>As far as I'm aware, only Ericsson make extended range cells,
>and they haven't found it economical to tackle the work
>required to get GPRS operating in this tiny, uniquely
>Australian specialty market.
>
>John


Same thing this morning....2.5G at 5:00...2G by 9:00

I don't think it is a long range site. Connection is patchy 10klms
away. Despite the excellent ridge-top location.


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brian w edginton wrote:

> Same thing this morning....2.5G at 5:00...2G by 9:00
>
> I don't think it is a long range site. Connection is patchy
> 10klms away. Despite the excellent ridge-top location.

I can't help you because I don't know what "2.5G" means. By
"2G" I mean pre-UMTS GSM.

John

On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:43:21 +1000 John Henderson may have written:
> I can't help you because I don't know what "2.5G" means. By "2G" I
> mean pre-UMTS GSM.

WRT data:

2G = GSM CSD
2.5G = GPRS
2.75G = EDGE
3G = UMTS R99
3.5G = HSDPA

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