Emergency calls.

In the past week or so, police on the North Coast of NSW had a rash of
furphy calls to 000 in the Wardell area. Domestic disputes and such.
Traced to a stolen mobile phone.
Seems more than one person made the calls.
Heard (on the scanner) that the calls were being made without a SIM.
I guess the owner had the account closed or something.
I gather the perps were turning the phone off between calls.
Until Thursday or Friday. Heard a report that the idiots had been
caught because they had left the handset on.
Seemed to take minutes from the latest call..

Am guessing that the cops knew who was responsible but wanted to catch
them with the stolen handset.
Possibly had a triangulation setup going???.

Any tech stuff for a non-tech old fart?


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brian w edginton wrote:
> In the past week or so, police on the North Coast of NSW had a rash of
> furphy calls to 000 in the Wardell area. Domestic disputes and such.
> Traced to a stolen mobile phone.
> Seems more than one person made the calls.
> Heard (on the scanner) that the calls were being made without a SIM.
> I guess the owner had the account closed or something.
> I gather the perps were turning the phone off between calls.
> Until Thursday or Friday. Heard a report that the idiots had been
> caught because they had left the handset on.
> Seemed to take minutes from the latest call..
>
> Am guessing that the cops knew who was responsible but wanted to catch
> them with the stolen handset.
> Possibly had a triangulation setup going???.
>
> Any tech stuff for a non-tech old fart?
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> If you want to win an argument, it is best to
> stick to the truth.
> Or provable untruths.

I don't know much about what law enforcement actually did. Heaps of
calls go to emergency services without sim cards. What these fools
don't know is that even without a sim card, the handset can still be
identified. The difference is that the phone companies need to look it
up manually.

"brian w edginton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In the past week or so, police on the North Coast of NSW had a rash of
> furphy calls to 000 in the Wardell area. Domestic disputes and such.
> Traced to a stolen mobile phone.
> Seems more than one person made the calls.
> Heard (on the scanner) that the calls were being made without a SIM.

Then it would be calls to 112, not 000.

> I gather the perps were turning the phone off between calls.
> Until Thursday or Friday. Heard a report that the idiots had been
> caught because they had left the handset on.
> Seemed to take minutes from the latest call..

Good-o.

> Am guessing that the cops knew who was responsible but wanted to catch
> them with the stolen handset.
> Possibly had a triangulation setup going???.

Yep.

> I don't know much about what law enforcement actually did. Heaps of calls
> go to emergency services without sim cards. What these fools

Hardly anyone uses 112 from a mobile without a SIM card

Michael J wrote:
> Then it would be calls to 112, not 000.

You will find most phones will dial 112, 000 and even 911 without a SIM
card in Australia. These numbers can usually be dialled when the keypad
is locked as well and in effect are set to go to 000 anyway.


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On Sun, 13 May 2007 17:13:00 +1000, Simon Templar <[email protected]>
wrote:

>You will find most phones will dial 112, 000 and even 911 without a SIM
>card in Australia. These numbers can usually be dialled when the keypad
>is locked as well and in effect are set to go to 000 anyway.

I get a stupid message on my Palm Treo 650 in this regard.

A warning that no network is found - Emergency calls only.

So how does this work?

Lone Wolf wrote:
> I get a stupid message on my Palm Treo 650 in this regard.
>
> A warning that no network is found - Emergency calls only.
>
> So how does this work?

If you are out of range of your network but within range of another then
you are able to dial 112, 000 or 911 and the other network will accept
the call just as if there were no SIM card in the phone.




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On Sun, 13 May 2007 18:09:01 +1000, Simon Templar <[email protected]>
wrote:

>If you are out of range of your network but within range of another then
>you are able to dial 112, 000 or 911 and the other network will accept
>the call just as if there were no SIM card in the phone.

OK, I get it. Thanks.

I gave my old mobile to my father who refuses to have one.
I wrote 112 on it and showed him how to turn it on and asked him to keep it
with his spare tire and the car charger.
Hope your right and he never needs to use it.

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Triangulation can be achieved with the base stations assuming they were in
an area where there is a few located.

www.geomobiles.net

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On Sun, 13 May 2007 21:57:48 +1000 Paul Kean may have written:
> Except that 911 is NOT a valid emergency number in Australia.

Depends wether you class valid as "it'll work" or "it's officially
advertised as 'it'll work'".

PD

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Paul Day wrote:
> On Sun, 13 May 2007 21:57:48 +1000 Paul Kean may have written:
>> Except that 911 is NOT a valid emergency number in Australia.
>
> Depends wether you class valid as "it'll work" or "it's officially
> advertised as 'it'll work'".
>
> PD
>

I've been told that support for 911 is built in to the handset firmware,
not the network.

Graeme Willox wrote:
> I've been told that support for 911 is built in to the handset firmware,
> not the network.

Yes, that is correct. The same way 112 and 000 is mapped into the
phone, it basically places a priority call to the network which then
accepts the request and handles the call. So here in Australia it is
directed to 000.

If needed the cell you place the call on will drop other calls in
progress to place your Emergency call.


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Simon Templar wrote:
> Graeme Willox wrote:
>> I've been told that support for 911 is built in to the handset
>> firmware, not the network.
>
> Yes, that is correct. The same way 112 and 000 is mapped into the
> phone, it basically places a priority call to the network which then
> accepts the request and handles the call. So here in Australia it is
> directed to 000.

I think the main difference though is that whether a network feature or
handset feature, 112 is written into the GSM specs, whereas 000 and 911
aren't. Depending upon the origin of the handset, 000 or 911 may or may
not work, but 112 will always work on a GSM network.

>
> If needed the cell you place the call on will drop other calls in
> progress to place your Emergency call.
>
>

Graeme Willox wrote:

> I think the main difference though is that whether a network
> feature or handset feature, 112 is written into the GSM specs,
> whereas 000 and 911 aren't. Depending upon the origin of the
> handset, 000 or 911 may or may not work, but 112 will always
> work on a GSM network.

Just to add some extra redundancy, the 000/999/911 to 112 lookup
can done via the SIM as well.

All the numbers listed in the SIM's EF_ECC (emergency call
codes) file, at SIM address 6FB7 get mapped to 112. This is
the same for 2G GSM and 3G UMTS phones.

John