Broadband Decision - Country Australians Shafted!

>> Using wireless access for country users in going to be crap , it will be
>> patchy and at reduced speeds particularly if there are hills and mountain
>> ranges between the user and the exchange , not to mention anything about
>> congestion by users.
>>
>> In short they would have to set up line of sight towers just like for
>> mobile phone towers all over the place.
>
> Hmm, that sounds remarkably like a product called TELSTRA NEXTG NETWORK

LOL Watch out or Jimmy dear will get ya.

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Cobber, how come you and other critics of the wireless plan cannot get it into
your heads that no company is going to dig a15km ditch to give me or my 2
neighbors a line based broadband?

They just wont't do it, so wireless is the way for us country folk (who cannot
afford 2way sattelite)

David

Cobber wrote:

> Broadband Decision
> To: Helen (Senator) Coonan ([email protected])
> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2007 9:31:40 AM
>
> Senator Helen Coonan - Minister for Communications
>
> Two years to roll out all of your new broadband two tier plan? That's
> absolute rubbish and you know it! You must think that there are a lot of
> dumb people out here. This ridiculous estimate will blow out dramatically as
> soon as the election is over.
>
> And as for saddling country people with completely untried WiMax wireless
> technology - shame on you.

quietguy <[email protected]> wrote

> Cobber, how come you and other critics of the wireless plan
> cannot get it into your heads that no company is going to dig a
> 15km ditch to give me or my 2 neighbors a line based broadband?

Have fun explaining how come they did that with the phone line.

> They just wont't do it, so wireless is the way for us country folk

It isnt the only way.

> (who cannot afford 2way sattelite)

And that aint the only alternative either.


> Cobber wrote:
>
>> Broadband Decision
>> To: Helen (Senator) Coonan ([email protected])
>> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2007 9:31:40 AM
>>
>> Senator Helen Coonan - Minister for Communications
>>
>> Two years to roll out all of your new broadband two tier plan? That's
>> absolute rubbish and you know it! You must think that there are a
>> lot of dumb people out here. This ridiculous estimate will blow out
>> dramatically as soon as the election is over.
>>
>> And as for saddling country people with completely untried WiMax
>> wireless technology - shame on you.

> Cobber, how come you and other critics of the wireless plan cannot get it
> into
> your heads that no company is going to dig a15km ditch to give me or my 2
> neighbors a line based broadband?

Funny you should say the word "cobber", I know of an old Cobb and Co station
at the back of never never SA that was supplied a phone line in excess of
20miles (1 phone for 1 client)..

>
> They just wont't do it, so wireless is the way for us country folk (who
> cannot
> afford 2way sattelite)
>
> David
>
> Cobber wrote:
>
>> Broadband Decision
>> To: Helen (Senator) Coonan ([email protected])
>> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2007 9:31:40 AM
>>
>> Senator Helen Coonan - Minister for Communications
>>
>> Two years to roll out all of your new broadband two tier plan? That's
>> absolute rubbish and you know it! You must think that there are a lot of
>> dumb people out here. This ridiculous estimate will blow out dramatically
>> as
>> soon as the election is over.
>>
>> And as for saddling country people with completely untried WiMax wireless
>> technology - shame on you.
>

Rod Speed wrote:
> quietguy <[email protected]> wrote
>
>> Cobber, how come you and other critics of the wireless plan
>> cannot get it into your heads that no company is going to dig a
>> 15km ditch to give me or my 2 neighbors a line based broadband?
>
> Have fun explaining how come they did that with the phone line.
>
>> They just wont't do it, so wireless is the way for us country folk
>
> It isnt the only way.
>
>> (who cannot afford 2way sattelite)
>
> And that aint the only alternative either.
>
How about you actually offer an alternative woddles instead of looking
the dickhead you always are


Now the task is less that $60.00 a month and 12 mbs bandwidth with at
least 10 gig of download that's not wireless and actually will be
delivered to a country home at the edges of region 2 or worse .

No other alternatives for reasonable cost and fast broadband that I know
about Rod- its Sattelite ($100+month), NextG ($50month for 1 gig) (both
ridiculously expensive) or the new wireless system - if you know of
something else share your knowledge

David

Rod Speed wrote:

> quietguy <[email protected]> wrote
>
> > Cobber, how come you and other critics of the wireless plan
> > cannot get it into your heads that no company is going to dig a
> > 15km ditch to give me or my 2 neighbors a line based broadband?
>
> Have fun explaining how come they did that with the phone line.

That was years ago - not sure how many

>
>
> > They just wont't do it, so wireless is the way for us country folk
>
> It isnt the only way.
>
> > (who cannot afford 2way sattelite)
>
> And that aint the only alternative either.
>
> > Cobber wrote:
> >
> >> Broadband Decision
> >> To: Helen (Senator) Coonan ([email protected])
> >> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2007 9:31:40 AM
> >>
> >> Senator Helen Coonan - Minister for Communications
> >>
> >> Two years to roll out all of your new broadband two tier plan? That's
> >> absolute rubbish and you know it! You must think that there are a
> >> lot of dumb people out here. This ridiculous estimate will blow out
> >> dramatically as soon as the election is over.
> >>
> >> And as for saddling country people with completely untried WiMax
> >> wireless technology - shame on you.

Two Bob wrote:

> > Cobber, how come you and other critics of the wireless plan cannot get it
> > into
> > your heads that no company is going to dig a15km ditch to give me or my 2
> > neighbors a line based broadband?
>
> Funny you should say the word "cobber", I know of an old Cobb and Co station
> at the back of never never SA that was supplied a phone line in excess of
> 20miles (1 phone for 1 client)..
>

Do you think that was in the old days though - before Telstra was sold?

David

quietguy <[email protected]> wrote

> No other alternatives for reasonable cost
> and fast broadband that I know about Rod-

You need to get out more.

> its Sattelite ($100+month),

Not necessarily that expensive.

> NextG ($50month for 1 gig) (both ridiculously expensive)

Nope, plenty pay $50.month for broadband.

> or the new wireless system - if you know
> of something else share your knowledge

There's been other wireless around for a long time now.

And cable for a lot longer for many too.

And even a bit of fibre too.


> Rod Speed wrote
>> quietguy <[email protected]> wrote

>>> Cobber, how come you and other critics of the wireless plan
>>> cannot get it into your heads that no company is going to dig a
>>> 15km ditch to give me or my 2 neighbors a line based broadband?

>> Have fun explaining how come they did that with the phone line.

> That was years ago - not sure how many

Irrelevant how long ago it was and its still being done today anyway.

>>> They just wont't do it, so wireless is the way for us country folk

>> It isnt the only way.

>>> (who cannot afford 2way sattelite)

>> And that aint the only alternative either.


>>> Cobber wrote:

>>>> Broadband Decision
>>>> To: Helen (Senator) Coonan ([email protected])
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2007 9:31:40 AM

>>>> Senator Helen Coonan - Minister for Communications

>>>> Two years to roll out all of your new broadband two tier plan?
>>>> That's absolute rubbish and you know it! You must think that there
>>>> are a lot of dumb people out here. This ridiculous estimate will
>>>> blow out dramatically as soon as the election is over.

>>>> And as for saddling country people with completely untried WiMax
>>>> wireless technology - shame on you.

quietguy <[email protected]> wrote
> Two Bob wrote

>>> Cobber, how come you and other critics of the wireless plan
>>> cannot get it into your heads that no company is going to dig
>>> a15km ditch to give me or my 2 neighbors a line based broadband?

>> Funny you should say the word "cobber", I know of an old Cobb
>> and Co station at the back of never never SA that was supplied
>> a phone line in excess of 20miles (1 phone for 1 client)..

> Do you think that was in the old days though - before Telstra was sold?

It still happens today.

"Two Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >> Using wireless access for country users in going to be crap , it will
be
> >> patchy and at reduced speeds particularly if there are hills and
mountain
> >> ranges between the user and the exchange , not to mention anything
about
> >> congestion by users.
> >>
> >> In short they would have to set up line of sight towers just like for
> >> mobile phone towers all over the place.
> >
> > Hmm, that sounds remarkably like a product called TELSTRA NEXTG NETWORK
>
> LOL Watch out or Jimmy dear will get ya.
>
>

Actually NextG is a world-leading network, SingTel's unproven beta-ware is
an expensive con..

Alan Parkington <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Two Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Using wireless access for country users in going to be crap , it
>>>> will be patchy and at reduced speeds particularly if there are
>>>> hills and mountain ranges between the user and the exchange , not
>>>> to mention anything about congestion by users.
>>>>
>>>> In short they would have to set up line of sight towers just like
>>>> for mobile phone towers all over the place.
>>>
>>> Hmm, that sounds remarkably like a product called TELSTRA NEXTG
>>> NETWORK
>>
>> LOL Watch out or Jimmy dear will get ya.
>>
>>
>
> Actually NextG is a world-leading network,

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a ****ing clue.

> SingTel's unproven beta-ware is an expensive con..

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a ****ing clue.

Rod Speed wrote:
> quietguy <[email protected]> wrote
>
>> No other alternatives for reasonable cost
>> and fast broadband that I know about Rod-
>
> You need to get out more.
>
>> its Sattelite ($100+month),
>
> Not necessarily that expensive.
>
>> NextG ($50month for 1 gig) (both ridiculously expensive)
>
> Nope, plenty pay $50.month for broadband.
>
>> or the new wireless system - if you know
>> of something else share your knowledge
>
> There's been other wireless around for a long time now.
>
> And cable for a lot longer for many too.
>
> And even a bit of fibre too.
>
>
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> quietguy <[email protected]> wrote
>
>>>> Cobber, how come you and other critics of the wireless plan
>>>> cannot get it into your heads that no company is going to dig a
>>>> 15km ditch to give me or my 2 neighbors a line based broadband?
>
>>> Have fun explaining how come they did that with the phone line.
>
>> That was years ago - not sure how many
>
> Irrelevant how long ago it was and its still being done today anyway.
>
>>>> They just wont't do it, so wireless is the way for us country folk
>
>>> It isnt the only way.
>
>>>> (who cannot afford 2way sattelite)
>
>>> And that aint the only alternative either.
>
>
SO where are the links to examples woddles ?
or have you failed to excite yet again you plonka .

Alan Parkington wrote:
> "Two Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Using wireless access for country users in going to be crap , it will
> be
>>>> patchy and at reduced speeds particularly if there are hills and
> mountain
>>>> ranges between the user and the exchange , not to mention anything
> about
>>>> congestion by users.
>>>>
>>>> In short they would have to set up line of sight towers just like for
>>>> mobile phone towers all over the place.
>>> Hmm, that sounds remarkably like a product called TELSTRA NEXTG NETWORK
>> LOL Watch out or Jimmy dear will get ya.
>>
>>
>
> Actually NextG is a world-leading network, SingTel's unproven beta-ware is
> an expensive con..
>
>
>
Liar , but then you are employed by helstra (shill)

Rod Speed wrote:
> Alan Parkington <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Two Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Using wireless access for country users in going to be crap , it
>>>>> will be patchy and at reduced speeds particularly if there are
>>>>> hills and mountain ranges between the user and the exchange , not
>>>>> to mention anything about congestion by users.
>>>>>
>>>>> In short they would have to set up line of sight towers just like
>>>>> for mobile phone towers all over the place.
>>>> Hmm, that sounds remarkably like a product called TELSTRA NEXTG
>>>> NETWORK
>>> LOL Watch out or Jimmy dear will get ya.
>>>
>>>
>> Actually NextG is a world-leading network,
>
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a ****ing clue.
Bluster wont hide your ignorance woddles , provide proof of your
claims or be known as a bufoon.( again)
>
>> SingTel's unproven beta-ware is an expensive con..
>
> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that you have never ever had a ****ing clue.

see above you foul mouthed cretin
>
>
>

On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:13:39 +1000, atec 77 <"atec 77 at hotmai dot
..com"> wrote:

>Alan Parkington wrote:
>> "Two Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Using wireless access for country users in going to be crap , it will
>> be
>>>>> patchy and at reduced speeds particularly if there are hills and
>> mountain
>>>>> ranges between the user and the exchange , not to mention anything
>> about
>>>>> congestion by users.
>>>>>
>>>>> In short they would have to set up line of sight towers just like for
>>>>> mobile phone towers all over the place.
>>>> Hmm, that sounds remarkably like a product called TELSTRA NEXTG NETWORK
>>> LOL Watch out or Jimmy dear will get ya.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Actually NextG is a world-leading network, SingTel's unproven beta-ware is
>> an expensive con..
>>
>>
>>
>Liar , but then you are employed by helstra (shill)


Well, it works for me.
And I don't work for Telstra.

Anyway....no way anyone is gonna lay fibre to my place in the bush.
Couldn't get ADSL.
Bastards weren't gonna tear up 4Klms of pair gain just for me.
And the people, 4klms up the road only got ADSL when the developer
paid a hefty part of the cost so he could sell acreage blocks to
escapees from town.

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