What is wrong with Next G?

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000 davmel may have written:
> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week
> so that is a HUGE cut in data rates plus the value of the data packs
> has increased significantly as well.

Seems they've updated their FAQ:

http://telstramobile.custhelp.com/cg...i=&p_topview=1

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Paul Day wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000 davmel may have written:
>> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week
>> so that is a HUGE cut in data rates plus the value of the data packs
>> has increased significantly as well.
>
> 1.5c/kB to 0.2c/kB? Got a URL to that one? Any idea if the data packs
> are going down similarly?

Consumer plans:
http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/mob.../datapacks.htm

Business plans:
http://www.telstra.com.au/business/p...payasyougo.htm
http://www.telstra.com.au/business/p.../datapacks.htm

Will Kemp wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000, davmel wrote:
>
>> Marts wrote:
>>> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the minimum
>>> speed that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236 kbps.
>> How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I regularly
>> get 2Mbps+
>>
>>> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are
>>> expensive. You can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the
>>> other rates, they're still not cheap, and for the average user, I doubt
>>> that you'd want to use it that much.
>> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week
>
> Wow! Only $2000 a GB!!!

Given that you're saving $13,000/GB over the old casual pricing it's a
big discount.

If you don't like the pricing then use another service.

"Will Kemp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000, davmel wrote:
>
>> Marts wrote:
>>> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the minimum
>>> speed that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236 kbps.
>>
>> How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I regularly
>> get 2Mbps+
>>
>>> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are
>>> expensive. You can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the
>>> other rates, they're still not cheap, and for the average user, I doubt
>>> that you'd want to use it that much.
>>
>> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week
>
> Wow! Only $2000 a GB!!!
>
> That means only $40,000 for 20GB, ey? That's amazingly competitive! The

No, there isnt a 20gb data pack for $40000, ****wit

> ****! That's such a good deal i think i'm going to have to start
> downloading movies right now!

Only a ****wit would be on PAYG when using more than 5mb in a month

Maybe you are that ****wit :-)

"Will Kemp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 21:09:03 +1000, davmel wrote:
>
>> Will Kemp wrote:
>>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000, davmel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Marts wrote:
>>>>> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the
>>>>> minimum speed that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236 kbps.
>>>> How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I regularly
>>>> get 2Mbps+
>>>>
>>>>> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are
>>>>> expensive. You can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the
>>>>> other rates, they're still not cheap, and for the average user, I
>>>>> doubt that you'd want to use it that much.
>>>> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week
>>>
>>> Wow! Only $2000 a GB!!!
>>
>> Given that you're saving $13,000/GB over the old casual pricing it's a
>> big discount.
>>
>> If you don't like the pricing then use another service.
>
> I don't like the pricing. And i do use another service. Thanks for your
> helpful suggestion.

**** off Kemp.

davmel <[email protected]> wrote:
> Will Kemp wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:00:35 +1000, davmel wrote:
>>
>>> Marts wrote:
>>>> Download speeds when using the phone as a modem were under the
>>>> minimum speed that Telstra classes as "broadband" at around 236
>>>> kbps.
>>> How where you using the phone as a modem? Bluetooth? USB? I
>>> regularly get 2Mbps+
>>>
>>>> Then there is the cost of data. Casual "pay as you go" rates are
>>>> expensive. You can buy data packs but while not as expensive as the
>>>> other rates, they're still not cheap, and for the average user, I
>>>> doubt that you'd want to use it that much.
>>> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past
>>> week
>>
>> Wow! Only $2000 a GB!!!
>
> Given that you're saving $13,000/GB over the old casual pricing it's a big discount.

Both are an utterly obscene ripoff.

> If you don't like the pricing then use another service.

Only a fool would use NextG for data of any volume. You qualify.

Will Kemp wrote:

> Ah, the ever friendly and helpful voice of tel$cum.

Yes, it's more honest when the comtempt for the public/customers
is out in the open. Michael does a great job in this respect.

John

davmel wrote...

> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week
> so that is a HUGE cut in data rates plus the value of the data packs has
> increased significantly as well.

Depends on what you think the word "significantly" means. The top data pack has
gone from 70 megs to 80 megs for the same amount - $29.

Had you said, say, 100 megs, then yeah, I might have considered that as
"significant".

The lower end packs don't seem to have changed much, if at all.

davmel wrote...

> If you don't like the pricing then use another service.

Dunno about Will's circumstances, but I don't have that luxury. So, I don't use
the service at all.

Marts wrote:
> davmel wrote...
>
>> The casual PAYG rate has dropped from $15/MB to $2/MB in the past week
>> so that is a HUGE cut in data rates plus the value of the data packs has
>> increased significantly as well.
>
> Depends on what you think the word "significantly" means. The top data pack has
> gone from 70 megs to 80 megs for the same amount - $29.

You're obviously not looking at the available data packs correctly. The
previous top data pack was $179 for 2GB. You now get 3GB for $119 which
is a big saving.

http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/mob.../datapacks.htm

Plus the excess rate on the lower data packs has dropped as well.

Michael wrote...

> > Wow! Only $2000 a GB!!!
> >
> > That means only $40,000 for 20GB, ey? That's amazingly competitive! The
>
> No, there isnt a 20gb data pack for $40000, ****wit

Whooosh....

davmel wrote...

> > Depends on what you think the word "significantly" means. The top data pack has
> > gone from 70 megs to 80 megs for the same amount - $29.
>
> You're obviously not looking at the available data packs correctly. The

I was looking at the data packs that are available for my mobile service. I'm
not interested in datapacks that aren't available for it. There'd be no point,
would there?

> previous top data pack was $179 for 2GB. You now get 3GB for $119 which
> is a big saving.

Depends on what you think the word "saving" means.


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Will Kemp wrote...

> My circumstances are that i'm stuck with crappy dialup. Even if i felt

Have you considered ISDN?

I know that it's a Telstra product, but ISDN Home, together with Bigpond ISDN
isn't that bad when all things are considered. You get "two" phone "lines" and a
128k service. Caller ID is free and the Bigpond service has no download limits.

And yeah, it IS significantly quicker than dialup, with 128/128 speeds, there's
bugger all lag compared to a dialup connection.

Also, where are you located? There are regional ISPs which are now offering some
fairly good deals on Satellite (well, they're "good" for satellite). Wideband
Networks is one. http://www.wideband.net.au/

http://www.wideband.net.au/satellite_plans.html

256K/64K 500Mb $29.95
512K/128K 1Gb $39.95
512K/128K 3Gb $79.95
512K/128K 5Gb $124.95
1024K/256K 1Gb $49.95
1024K/256K 3Gb $94.95
1024K/256K 5Gb $139.95

Marts wrote:
> davmel wrote...
>
>>> Depends on what you think the word "significantly" means. The top data pack has
>>> gone from 70 megs to 80 megs for the same amount - $29.
>> You're obviously not looking at the available data packs correctly. The
>
> I was looking at the data packs that are available for my mobile service. I'm
> not interested in datapacks that aren't available for it. There'd be no point,
> would there?

If you have ANY GSM/3G/NextG mobile service with Telstra those data
packs ARE available. Just call up and add or remove them at will. Simple.

>> previous top data pack was $179 for 2GB. You now get 3GB for $119 which
>> is a big saving.
>
> Depends on what you think the word "saving" means.

As per the dictionary:

1. Rescue from harm, danger, or loss.
2. Avoidance of excess expenditure; economy.
3. A reduction in expenditure or cost.
4. Something saved.

If you were on the 2GB plan previously and paying $179 you can now pay
$119/month to get 50% more data, hence a $60/month SAVING.

Even a dickhead could work that one out.

davmel wrote...

> As per the dictionary:

> 2. Avoidance of excess expenditure; economy.

> If you were on the 2GB plan previously and paying $179 you can now pay
> $119/month to get 50% more data, hence a $60/month SAVING.
>
> Even a dickhead could work that one out.

I think that definition "2" above is what applies here, or indeed, to any
Telstra product that you can avoid purchasing, or that you don't really need to
keep that heart/lung machine going...


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