What is wrong with Next G?

mattic <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> davmel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> James Bell wrote:
>>>> Michael wrote:
>>>>> Only a ****wit would be on PAYG when using more than 5mb in a
>>>>> month
>>>>
>>>> 5MB? 5MB? WTF!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Is this 1975 again you ****WIT? How the **** can anybody justify
>>>> ANY service when anything over 5MB starts being excessive in cost.
>>>>
>>>> ROFL.
>>>>
>>>> LUDICROUS.
>>>
>>> Oh quit whining you little child. If you don't like the prices then
>>> build your own network or wait a long time before a competitor
>>> bothers to build a network with adequate coverage.
>>
>> Or just notice that Opel will be available soon. Too much for you tho.

> I'll go on record now and say that Opel will never surface.

More fool you.

> This is a "company" that doesn't exist.

It will.

> There's no CEO, no staff, no premises,

There will be.

> they don't even have a ****ing carrier licence ffs!

They dont need one and if they do, they'll get one.

> Waltzing up to the Government and threatening to pull out of Australia unless Optus gets the billion bucks

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, child.

The govt put that up for tender and both Optarse and Telstra put in bids, ****wit.

Telstra's was deliberately non compliant.

> was a measured ploy by SingTel and maybe not so far from the truth given the woeful performance of
> Optus compared to other off-shore SingTel concerns.

Bare faced pig ignorant lie with their mobile service.

> Of course, what WILL happen is O'Sullivan will sidle up again and say, "Look guys, this is a compete ****-up, it's
> going to fail and you'll look really stupid. Unless, of course, you stump up another billion; and another."

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, child.

And it would STILL be much better to have real competition in rural
areas so the consumers who cant get anything else are shafted with
NextG utterly obscene data charges for any viable volume ANYWAY.

After all, that money is only a tiny part of what the govt got when it
flogged off telstra and its hilarious that that is being used to give
telstra the shafting with a telephone pole that it so richly deserves.

I bet which ever shinybum dreamt that one up is still wetting its pants laughing.

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mattic <[email protected]> wrote:
> "James Bell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Michael wrote:
>>> Only a ****wit would be on PAYG when using more than 5mb in a month
>>
>> 5MB? 5MB? WTF!!!!!
>>
>> Is this 1975 again you ****WIT? How the **** can anybody justify ANY
>> service when anything over 5MB starts being excessive in cost.
>>
>> ROFL.
>>
>> LUDICROUS.
>
>
> Depends. Mobile data, no probs at all, I'd pay for the convenience
> and the speed. I certainly wouldn't be using it as my primary
> internet service. If I was, I'd be on ADSL or, if that wasn't
> available, the 3G plan @ $149 isn't unreasonable given that, if I did
> live where there wasn't ADSL, there's probably a really good reason
> why I chose to live there. I think that's what we miss when we talk
> about this subject. We talk as though internet access fast and cheap
> is our reason for living. Well, if it is, move to where you can get
> it. A major regional town, a cap city, the US of ****ing A, if that's
> your baby. If it's NOT important enough for you to move for, then
> stop whining because you are where you want to be for whatever reason
> is most important to you.
> Australia's a real twat for Telcos. Massive space, virtually zero
> population. When a suburb of Islamabad has 7 million people and can be
> covered with 5 base stations, you can see why SingTel and the others
> don't want to throw a cent the way of Australia.

Have fun explaining what they have spent on mobile bases, and the satellite service too.

> I love Australia and the region where I live. My internet needs are
> adequately catered for and, while not optimal and more expensive,
> there's no way I'd move from all the advantages this country and my
> region brings to my lifestyle. We all have choices. Stop whining about it.

Some of us actually have enough of a clue to get the lifestyle
with as good a net service as is available in the capital citys.

mattic wrote...

> I love Australia and the region where I live. My internet needs are
> adequately catered for and, while not optimal and more expensive, there's no
> way I'd move from all the advantages this country and my region brings to my
> lifestyle. We all have choices. Stop whining about it.

One of the problems with say, rural Australia is that in order for us to say,
eat, or to say, have electricity, or to, say, have water to drink, or to say,
have somewhere for our waste products to be pumped to and processed, then we
have to accept that there will be people who need to live in those regions so
these services can be provided for say, metro Melbourne.

Now, if you want people to live there then you need to provide some sort of
incentive. Make it attractive for people to either move there, or to stop them
moving to, say, Melbourne. One way of doing this is to provide them with the
same level of service in areas such as telecommunications that people in metro
areas enjoy.

One real area of concern is that of health services. It is difficult to entice
doctors out of the larger cities, mainly because the opportunity to make big
bucks isn't there. So, what we see are lots of "foreign trained" doctors being
more or less forced to practise in such areas until they fulfil their
commitment. Then they're out of there.

Oh, don't even expect to retain specialists. If you're lucky, they'll visit
these regions once every so often.

--
Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

mattic wrote...

> I'll go on record now and say that Opel will never surface.

Some anonymous poster called "mattic" going on record? Please, give us a break.

"Marts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> mattic wrote...
>
>> I love Australia and the region where I live. My internet needs are
>> adequately catered for and, while not optimal and more expensive, there's
>> no
>> way I'd move from all the advantages this country and my region brings to
>> my
>> lifestyle. We all have choices. Stop whining about it.
>
> One of the problems with say, rural Australia is that in order for us to
> say,
> eat, or to say, have electricity, or to, say, have water to drink, or to
> say,
> have somewhere for our waste products to be pumped to and processed, then
> we
> have to accept that there will be people who need to live in those regions
> so
> these services can be provided for say, metro Melbourne.
>
> Now, if you want people to live there then you need to provide some sort
> of
> incentive. Make it attractive for people to either move there, or to stop
> them
> moving to, say, Melbourne. One way of doing this is to provide them with
> the
> same level of service in areas such as telecommunications that people in
> metro
> areas enjoy.
>
> One real area of concern is that of health services. It is difficult to
> entice
> doctors out of the larger cities, mainly because the opportunity to make
> big
> bucks isn't there. So, what we see are lots of "foreign trained" doctors
> bein

Supply and demand, give more dollars
Increase medicare rebate in that area if necessary

> more or less forced to practise in such areas until they fulfil their
> commitment. Then they're out of there.
>
> Oh, don't even expect to retain specialists. If you're lucky, they'll
> visit
> these regions once every so often.
>
> --
> Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

good call mattic. thats 2 posts of yours I like

"mattic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Will Kemp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Opel's service will be along
>> in a few months anyway - and it will be better than satellite.
>
> Pffffft!
>
> This "Opel" doesn't exist. No CEO, no staff, they don't even have a
> carrier licence!
> Their coverage maps are a joke, just a series of circles drawn around 10
> and 20 cent coins, they take in to account none of the gegraphical
> features of the land and are just complete fantasy.

"mattic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> Only a fool would use NextG for data of any volume.
>
> Precisely.
only a fool would use NextG without a data pack for any volume

for anyone else, NextG is very suitable

Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
> "mattic" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> Only a fool would use NextG for data of any volume.
>>
>> Precisely.
> only a fool would use NextG without a data pack for any volume
>
> for anyone else, NextG is very suitable

Wrong. The data charges are STILL utterly obscene even with the data packs.

Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Marts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> newsq3nj3hflebbdqslcnhkjhrtnpp02e11f2@martz_57.com...
>> mattic wrote...
>>
>>> I love Australia and the region where I live. My internet needs are
>>> adequately catered for and, while not optimal and more expensive,
>>> there's no
>>> way I'd move from all the advantages this country and my region
>>> brings to my
>>> lifestyle. We all have choices. Stop whining about it.
>>
>> One of the problems with say, rural Australia is that in order for
>> us to say,
>> eat, or to say, have electricity, or to, say, have water to drink,
>> or to say,
>> have somewhere for our waste products to be pumped to and processed,
>> then we
>> have to accept that there will be people who need to live in those
>> regions so
>> these services can be provided for say, metro Melbourne.
>>
>> Now, if you want people to live there then you need to provide some
>> sort of
>> incentive. Make it attractive for people to either move there, or to
>> stop them
>> moving to, say, Melbourne. One way of doing this is to provide them
>> with the
>> same level of service in areas such as telecommunications that
>> people in metro
>> areas enjoy.
>>
>> One real area of concern is that of health services. It is difficult
>> to entice
>> doctors out of the larger cities, mainly because the opportunity to
>> make big
>> bucks isn't there. So, what we see are lots of "foreign trained"
>> doctors bein
>
> Supply and demand, give more dollars
> Increase medicare rebate in that area if necessary

It aint about the money.

>> more or less forced to practise in such areas until they fulfil their
>> commitment. Then they're out of there.
>>
>> Oh, don't even expect to retain specialists. If you're lucky, they'll
>> visit
>> these regions once every so often.

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> mattic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> davmel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> James Bell wrote:
>>>>> Michael wrote:
>>>>>> Only a ****wit would be on PAYG when using more than 5mb in a
>>>>>> month
>>>>>
>>>>> 5MB? 5MB? WTF!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this 1975 again you ****WIT? How the **** can anybody justify
>>>>> ANY service when anything over 5MB starts being excessive in cost.
>>>>>
>>>>> ROFL.
>>>>>
>>>>> LUDICROUS.
>>>>
>>>> Oh quit whining you little child. If you don't like the prices then
>>>> build your own network or wait a long time before a competitor
>>>> bothers to build a network with adequate coverage.
>>>
>>> Or just notice that Opel will be available soon. Too much for you tho.
>
>> I'll go on record now and say that Opel will never surface.
>
> More fool you.
>
>> This is a "company" that doesn't exist.
>
> It will.
>
>> There's no CEO, no staff, no premises,
>
> There will be.
>
>> they don't even have a ****ing carrier licence ffs!
>
> They dont need one and if they do, they'll get one.
>
>> Waltzing up to the Government and threatening to pull out of Australia
>> unless Optus gets the billion bucks
>
> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, child.
>
> The govt put that up for tender and both Optarse and Telstra put in bids,
> ****wit.
>
> Telstra's was deliberately non compliant.
>
>> was a measured ploy by SingTel and maybe not so far from the truth given
>> the woeful performance of
>> Optus compared to other off-shore SingTel concerns.
>
> Bare faced pig ignorant lie with their mobile service.
>
>> Of course, what WILL happen is O'Sullivan will sidle up again and say,
>> "Look guys, this is a compete ****-up, it's going to fail and you'll look
>> really stupid. Unless, of course, you stump up another billion; and
>> another."
>
> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, child.
>
> And it would STILL be much better to have real competition in rural
> areas so the consumers who cant get anything else are shafted with
> NextG utterly obscene data charges for any viable volume ANYWAY.
>
> After all, that money is only a tiny part of what the govt got when it
> flogged off telstra and its hilarious that that is being used to give
> telstra the shafting with a telephone pole that it so richly deserves.
>
> I bet which ever shinybum dreamt that one up is still wetting its pants
> laughing.

I always think of the Rev. Ian Paisley, whenever Rod talks.

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> mattic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "James Bell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Michael wrote:
>>>> Only a ****wit would be on PAYG when using more than 5mb in a month
>>>
>>> 5MB? 5MB? WTF!!!!!
>>>
>>> Is this 1975 again you ****WIT? How the **** can anybody justify ANY
>>> service when anything over 5MB starts being excessive in cost.
>>>
>>> ROFL.
>>>
>>> LUDICROUS.
>>
>>
>> Depends. Mobile data, no probs at all, I'd pay for the convenience
>> and the speed. I certainly wouldn't be using it as my primary
>> internet service. If I was, I'd be on ADSL or, if that wasn't
>> available, the 3G plan @ $149 isn't unreasonable given that, if I did
>> live where there wasn't ADSL, there's probably a really good reason
>> why I chose to live there. I think that's what we miss when we talk
>> about this subject. We talk as though internet access fast and cheap
>> is our reason for living. Well, if it is, move to where you can get
>> it. A major regional town, a cap city, the US of ****ing A, if that's
>> your baby. If it's NOT important enough for you to move for, then
>> stop whining because you are where you want to be for whatever reason
>> is most important to you.
>> Australia's a real twat for Telcos. Massive space, virtually zero
>> population. When a suburb of Islamabad has 7 million people and can be
>> covered with 5 base stations, you can see why SingTel and the others
>> don't want to throw a cent the way of Australia.
>
> Have fun explaining what they have spent on mobile bases, and the
> satellite service too.
>
>> I love Australia and the region where I live. My internet needs are
>> adequately catered for and, while not optimal and more expensive,
>> there's no way I'd move from all the advantages this country and my
>> region brings to my lifestyle. We all have choices. Stop whining about
>> it.
>
> Some of us actually have enough of a clue to get the lifestyle
> with as good a net service as is available in the capital citys.

Why are you still whining, then?

"Marts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:r84nj3lmjsnq5hng0hiv9dfr55pl87m8v2@martz_57.com...
> mattic wrote...
>
>> I'll go on record now and say that Opel will never surface.
>
> Some anonymous poster called "mattic" going on record? Please, give us a
> break.

I see what you mean. Though I'm not sure you should have been expecting
Reuters. It is what it is.

mattic <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> mattic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> davmel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> James Bell wrote:
>>>>>> Michael wrote:
>>>>>>> Only a ****wit would be on PAYG when using more than 5mb in a
>>>>>>> month
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5MB? 5MB? WTF!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this 1975 again you ****WIT? How the **** can anybody justify
>>>>>> ANY service when anything over 5MB starts being excessive in
>>>>>> cost. ROFL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LUDICROUS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh quit whining you little child. If you don't like the prices
>>>>> then build your own network or wait a long time before a
>>>>> competitor bothers to build a network with adequate coverage.
>>>>
>>>> Or just notice that Opel will be available soon. Too much for you
>>>> tho.
>>
>>> I'll go on record now and say that Opel will never surface.
>>
>> More fool you.
>>
>>> This is a "company" that doesn't exist.
>>
>> It will.
>>
>>> There's no CEO, no staff, no premises,
>>
>> There will be.
>>
>>> they don't even have a ****ing carrier licence ffs!
>>
>> They dont need one and if they do, they'll get one.
>>
>>> Waltzing up to the Government and threatening to pull out of
>>> Australia unless Optus gets the billion bucks
>>
>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, child.
>>
>> The govt put that up for tender and both Optarse and Telstra put in
>> bids, ****wit.
>>
>> Telstra's was deliberately non compliant.
>>
>>> was a measured ploy by SingTel and maybe not so far from the truth
>>> given the woeful performance of
>>> Optus compared to other off-shore SingTel concerns.
>>
>> Bare faced pig ignorant lie with their mobile service.
>>
>>> Of course, what WILL happen is O'Sullivan will sidle up again and
>>> say, "Look guys, this is a compete ****-up, it's going to fail and
>>> you'll look really stupid. Unless, of course, you stump up another
>>> billion; and another."
>>
>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, child.
>>
>> And it would STILL be much better to have real competition in rural
>> areas so the consumers who cant get anything else are shafted with
>> NextG utterly obscene data charges for any viable volume ANYWAY.
>>
>> After all, that money is only a tiny part of what the govt got when
>> it flogged off telstra and its hilarious that that is being used to
>> give telstra the shafting with a telephone pole that it so richly
>> deserves. I bet which ever shinybum dreamt that one up is still wetting its
>> pants laughing.
>
> I always think

Obvious lie. Ear to ear dog **** isnt capable of thought.

mattic <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> mattic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> "James Bell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> Michael wrote:
>>>>> Only a ****wit would be on PAYG when using more than 5mb in a
>>>>> month
>>>>
>>>> 5MB? 5MB? WTF!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Is this 1975 again you ****WIT? How the **** can anybody justify
>>>> ANY service when anything over 5MB starts being excessive in cost.
>>>>
>>>> ROFL.
>>>>
>>>> LUDICROUS.
>>>
>>>
>>> Depends. Mobile data, no probs at all, I'd pay for the convenience
>>> and the speed. I certainly wouldn't be using it as my primary
>>> internet service. If I was, I'd be on ADSL or, if that wasn't
>>> available, the 3G plan @ $149 isn't unreasonable given that, if I
>>> did live where there wasn't ADSL, there's probably a really good
>>> reason why I chose to live there. I think that's what we miss when
>>> we talk about this subject. We talk as though internet access fast
>>> and cheap is our reason for living. Well, if it is, move to where
>>> you can get it. A major regional town, a cap city, the US of
>>> ****ing A, if that's your baby. If it's NOT important enough for
>>> you to move for, then stop whining because you are where you want
>>> to be for whatever reason is most important to you.
>>> Australia's a real twat for Telcos. Massive space, virtually zero
>>> population. When a suburb of Islamabad has 7 million people and can
>>> be covered with 5 base stations, you can see why SingTel and the
>>> others don't want to throw a cent the way of Australia.
>>
>> Have fun explaining what they have spent on mobile bases, and the
>> satellite service too.
>>
>>> I love Australia and the region where I live. My internet needs are
>>> adequately catered for and, while not optimal and more expensive,
>>> there's no way I'd move from all the advantages this country and my
>>> region brings to my lifestyle. We all have choices. Stop whining
>>> about it.
>>
>> Some of us actually have enough of a clue to get the lifestyle
>> with as good a net service as is available in the capital citys.
>
> Why are you still whining, then?

You wouldnt know what whining was if it bit you on your lard arse, child.

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> mattic <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> mattic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> "James Bell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> Michael wrote:
>>>>>> Only a ****wit would be on PAYG when using more than 5mb in a
>>>>>> month
>>>>>
>>>>> 5MB? 5MB? WTF!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this 1975 again you ****WIT? How the **** can anybody justify
>>>>> ANY service when anything over 5MB starts being excessive in cost.
>>>>>
>>>>> ROFL.
>>>>>
>>>>> LUDICROUS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Depends. Mobile data, no probs at all, I'd pay for the convenience
>>>> and the speed. I certainly wouldn't be using it as my primary
>>>> internet service. If I was, I'd be on ADSL or, if that wasn't
>>>> available, the 3G plan @ $149 isn't unreasonable given that, if I
>>>> did live where there wasn't ADSL, there's probably a really good
>>>> reason why I chose to live there. I think that's what we miss when
>>>> we talk about this subject. We talk as though internet access fast
>>>> and cheap is our reason for living. Well, if it is, move to where
>>>> you can get it. A major regional town, a cap city, the US of
>>>> ****ing A, if that's your baby. If it's NOT important enough for
>>>> you to move for, then stop whining because you are where you want
>>>> to be for whatever reason is most important to you.
>>>> Australia's a real twat for Telcos. Massive space, virtually zero
>>>> population. When a suburb of Islamabad has 7 million people and can
>>>> be covered with 5 base stations, you can see why SingTel and the
>>>> others don't want to throw a cent the way of Australia.
>>>
>>> Have fun explaining what they have spent on mobile bases, and the
>>> satellite service too.
>>>
>>>> I love Australia and the region where I live. My internet needs are
>>>> adequately catered for and, while not optimal and more expensive,
>>>> there's no way I'd move from all the advantages this country and my
>>>> region brings to my lifestyle. We all have choices. Stop whining
>>>> about it.
>>>
>>> Some of us actually have enough of a clue to get the lifestyle
>>> with as good a net service as is available in the capital citys.
>>
>> Why are you still whining, then?
>
> You wouldnt know what whining was if it bit you on your lard arse, child.

Answer the question.