Telstra Crap

On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is crap and
consumers whould avoid it like the plague. Sorry Telstra, you have missed
the boat and have become more irrelevant than ever. No wonder why Coonan
chose OPEL and that Telstra will NEVER get a look-in again at any Federal
money for broadband expansions.

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Michael <[email protected]> wrote
> thegoons <[email protected]> wrote

>> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is crap and consumers whould avoid it like the
>> plague. Sorry Telstra,
>> you have missed the boat and have become more irrelevant than ever.
>> No wonder why Coonan chose OPEL and that Telstra will NEVER get a look-in again at any Federal money for broadband
>> expansions.

> generally, it is crap.

Only in the hands of fools that havent got a clue.

> its an immature product.

Its perfectly viable when the service provider knows what they are doing.

> go look at whirlfool forums, posts like
> - i cant get through to a local number unless i dial 03 9xxx instead of just 9xxx . . .
> - i cant dial certain 13 numbers
> - incoming calls get ring tone but dont ring at my end

You get that with the POTS service too, ****wit.

> mindless levels of complications and faults

Only in the hands of fools that havent got a clue.

> Then, you have a hard wired phone

> it rings, you pick it up, you talk

Not always.

> when you want to dial out, you lift it, and make a call

Not always.

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 05:54:59 GMT in aus.comms.mobile Michael may have written:
> > On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is crap
> > and consumers whould avoid it like the plague. Sorry Telstra, you have
> > missed the boat and have become more irrelevant than ever. No wonder why
> > Coonan chose OPEL and that Telstra will NEVER get a look-in again at any
> > Federal money for broadband expansions.
>
> generally, it is crap. its an immature product.

You must be getting quite the tan in that rock you've been living under
there Michael...

PD

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Paul Day

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>

So it works well eh.. so I can dial 000 and they will know where I am?

Alan Parkington <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote

> So it works well eh..

Yep.

> so I can dial 000 and they will know where I am?

There might just be a tad more to a phone service than just that, ****wit.

Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
> Alan Parkington <[email protected]> wrote
>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote

>> So it works well eh..

> Yep.

>> so I can dial 000 and they will know where I am?

> There might just be a tad more to a phone service than just that, ****wit.

And those of us with an adsl service can still
make the 000 call on the POTS service, ****wit.

Telstra is hardly the first company ever to say bad things about technology
that threatens to put it out of business. At least be glad we dont live in
a country with a monopoly carrier who has the power to get the government
to ban VoIP (as is the case in e.g. some South American countries)

Will Kemp <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 13:52:31 +1000, thegoons wrote:
>
>> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is
>> crap
>
> Well, that's not exactly what it's saying. It's saying Skype is crap -
> and skype *is* crap, for various reasons.
>
> They're trying to extend problems with skype to all forms of internet
> telephony by implication, of course. But that blog post doesn't really
> say anything much at all about internet telephony other than skype.
>
> Anyway, as one comment says:
>
> "Why isn't Telstra talking up products that deliver on the potential
> of the new tech, instead of attempting to turn people off?"
>
> Why indeed???

Because that would **** their revenue stream very comprehensively indeed.

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
: Michael <[email protected]> wrote
: > thegoons <[email protected]> wrote
:
: >> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is
crap and consumers whould avoid it like the
: >> plague. Sorry Telstra,
: >> you have missed the boat and have become more irrelevant than ever.
: >> No wonder why Coonan chose OPEL and that Telstra will NEVER get a
look-in again at any Federal money for broadband
: >> expansions.
:
: > generally, it is crap.
:
: Only in the hands of fools that havent got a clue.
:
: > its an immature product.
:
: Its perfectly viable when the service provider knows what they are doing.
:
: > go look at whirlfool forums, posts like
: > - i cant get through to a local number unless i dial 03 9xxx instead of
just 9xxx . . .
: > - i cant dial certain 13 numbers
: > - incoming calls get ring tone but dont ring at my end
:
: You get that with the POTS service too, ****wit.
:
: > mindless levels of complications and faults
:
: Only in the hands of fools that havent got a clue.
:
: > Then, you have a hard wired phone
:
: > it rings, you pick it up, you talk
:
: Not always.
:
: > when you want to dial out, you lift it, and make a call
:
: Not always.

Telstra misguided propaganda. I have to agree with Rod. I've had Engin on
cable for a long time, and no landline. It works so well, no one knows the
difference. I get a locally assigned number for people to call me on, I pick
up my standard cordless phone which has the base unit plugged into the wall
as per normal, but leading to my Engin box.
If I want to call emergency, they know where I am because of my local
assigned number that Engin gave me. If the power or cable goes down, well,
shock, horror, it diverts to my voicemail. And if I need to call out while
it's down (which has never happened while I was home), I guess I'd use my
mobile.
Visitors who use my phone don't even realise it is VOIP unless I tell them
afterwards, and most don't belive it until they see the Engin unit, tucked
up on a shelf in the walk in robe, alongside the router and modem. And even
then some think its a trick, until I flick the Engin box power off and tell
them to try to call out on the cordless in thier hand.

VOIP is not a problem for me and many others.

Adrian.

Michael wrote:
> "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is crap
>> and consumers whould avoid it like the plague. Sorry Telstra, you have
>> missed the boat and have become more irrelevant than ever. No wonder why
>> Coonan chose OPEL and that Telstra will NEVER get a look-in again at any
>> Federal money for broadband expansions.
>
> generally, it is crap. its an immature product.
>
> go look at whirlfool forums, posts like
> - i cant get through to a local number unless i dial 03 9xxx instead of just
> 9xxx . . .
> - i cant dial certain 13 numbers
> - incoming calls get ring tone but dont ring at my end

Never ever had any of those problems, ****wit. Simply get a VoIP box
pre-configured straight from your provider, you terminal ****wit.

>> its an immature product.
>
> Its perfectly viable when the service provider knows what they are doing.

And clearly many of them dont know what they are doing. Reminds me of the
days of callback services, 5-10 years ago

>> go look at whirlfool forums, posts like
>> - i cant get through to a local number unless i dial 03 9xxx instead of
>> just 9xxx . . .
>> - i cant dial certain 13 numbers
>> - incoming calls get ring tone but dont ring at my end
>
> You get that with the POTS service too, ****wit.

Hardly.

>> mindless levels of complications and faults
>
> Only in the hands of fools that havent got a clue.

Even a fool can make and receive a call on a POTS service, Roddles. VOIP
should just work, in the same fashion.

Indeed now you can attach hardwire-like phones that just work like a normal
phone (or should)

>> Then, you have a hard wired phone
>
>> it rings, you pick it up, you talk
>
> Not always.

99.99999% of the time

>> when you want to dial out, you lift it, and make a call
>
> Not always.

as above
>
>

"Will Kemp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 05:54:59 +0000, Michael wrote:
>
>> "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is
>>> crap and consumers whould avoid it like the plague. Sorry Telstra, you
>>> have missed the boat and have become more irrelevant than ever. No
>>> wonder why Coonan chose OPEL and that Telstra will NEVER get a look-in
>>> again at any Federal money for broadband expansions.
>>
>> generally, it is crap. its an immature product.
>
> It's nowhere near as immature as that oaf Trujillo!
>
> But, in fact, it's not at all immature. VOIP (as opposed to internet
> telephony) is widely used in many large corporations and works
> faultlessly.

With vast numbers of people supporting it. Joe Blow hasnt got a chance

>> go look at whirlfool forums, posts like - i cant get through to a local
>> number unless i dial 03 9xxx instead of just 9xxx . . .
>> - i cant dial certain 13 numbers
>> - incoming calls get ring tone but dont ring at my end
>
> Pretty much the same sort of thing as what you'll find in the broadband
> forums - would you describe *that* as an immature technology? All sorts
> of people have difficulties with all forms of technology. That's just the
> way it is.

Yet no one seems to have trouble with the POTS network

>> Then, you have a hard wired phone
>>
>> it rings, you pick it up, you talk
>>
>> when you want to dial out, you lift it, and make a call
>
> There's plenty of times when ADSL works on someone's line, but the phone
> doesn't - in those cases, internet telephony (which clowns like you will
> insist on referring to as "VOIP") is more reliable than POTS.

Hardly ever occurs.
>

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Will Kemp <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 13:52:31 +1000, thegoons wrote:
>>
>>> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is
>>> crap
>>
>> Well, that's not exactly what it's saying. It's saying Skype is crap -
>> and skype *is* crap, for various reasons.
>>
>> They're trying to extend problems with skype to all forms of internet
>> telephony by implication, of course. But that blog post doesn't really
>> say anything much at all about internet telephony other than skype.
>>
>> Anyway, as one comment says:
>>
>> "Why isn't Telstra talking up products that deliver on the potential
>> of the new tech, instead of attempting to turn people off?"
>>
>> Why indeed???
>
> Because that would **** their revenue stream very comprehensively indeed.

Of course.

You cant expect them to cannabalise that. They cannabilise that, then
broadband and mobiles prices will go up to get that revenue back

Careful what you wish for, customers

>
>

"James Bell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Michael wrote:
>> "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On Telstra's propganda website, they are now spruiking that VOIP is crap
>>> and consumers whould avoid it like the plague. Sorry Telstra, you have
>>> missed the boat and have become more irrelevant than ever. No wonder why
>>> Coonan chose OPEL and that Telstra will NEVER get a look-in again at any
>>> Federal money for broadband expansions.
>>
>> generally, it is crap. its an immature product.
>>
>> go look at whirlfool forums, posts like
>> - i cant get through to a local number unless i dial 03 9xxx instead of
>> just 9xxx . . .
>> - i cant dial certain 13 numbers
>> - incoming calls get ring tone but dont ring at my end
>
> Never ever had any of those problems, ****wit. Simply get a VoIP box
> pre-configured straight from your provider, you terminal ****wit.

Sorry ****wit, I dont use VOIP, its an immature technology.

On Sun, 07 Oct 2007 11:18:57 GMT in aus.comms.mobile Michael may have written:
> >> Then, you have a hard wired phone
> >
> >> it rings, you pick it up, you talk
> >
> > Not always.
>
> 99.99999% of the time

You reckon Telstra maintain an average SLA of _3 seconds per year_
downtime across their PSTN network? My lack of a dial-tone at multiple
properties over the years begs to differ.

PD

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