Telstra forcing me off CDMA

"thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?

No one is forcing you to buy a new handset, you can certainly use your CDMA
up till 28/1/8 and then go without a phone

> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me.

Correct, as is THEIR prerogative with THEIR network

>I signed up to CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than
>GSM, the 'latest and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka Fizzler
>back in 1999), yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.

And the worlds moved on since 1999, love. It's 8 years later

Telstra dont owe you anything

> Surely this is against basic consumer law.

No
Thanks for asking

>
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"thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> thegoons <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
>>> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?
>>
>> Why indeed.
>>
>>> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed
>>> up to CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than
>>> GSM, the 'latest and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka
>>> Fizzler back in 1999), yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.
>>
>> That last is a bare faced lie and irrelevant anyway.
>
>
> Nope, refer to comments made by Telstra's Gary Goldsworthy
> (http://www.nowwearetalking.com.au/Ho...g.aspx?mid=373) making
> reference to "the ageing CDMA network"

Not you dick, he was saying Telstra is lying.

If CDMA is an aging relic I wonder what their GSM network is?

"Core2Duo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
>> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?
>>
>
> Part of the reason for their being "expensive" is Telstra's fault.

Crap****

> For example they have an arrangement w/ Motorola to be the exclusive
> seller of the V9 Razr2 for the 1st 3 months after its recent launch.
> This availability restriction holds the price up (until the other carriers
> can also sell it).

both telstra, optus and voda have been "exclusive sellers" of various
handsets over the years

>
> Telstra flexing its muscles as usual, and shooting itself in the foot, as
> usual.

nope, completely normal practice
>
>

>> The only thing that makes any sense at all is a free nextg handset of
>> as least as good a performance as the cdma system you have now,
>> AND the same plan detail as you already have with cdma too.
>>
>> > After jan 28, CDMA is no more
>>
>> Just another bare faced lie.
>>
>> > and you will lose your mobile number if you don't migrate beforehand,
>>
>> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the number for
>> quite
>> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that date.
>
> Don't bet on it.
> The choice is clear: migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to
> be DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.
> remember, you can't even port your number to another carrier if you
> want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.
> Unless system protocols are drastically changed and there's absolutley
> no guarantee in this, you can't reactivate a CDMA number after that
> network is closed. CDMA numbers with GSM prefixes on the Telstra

if its postpaid its technically possible.
just wont have a network to work on

>>> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the number for
>>> quite
>>> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that date.
>
>> Don't bet on it.
>
> No need to bet on anything. The only thing that makes any sense at all
> is to wait and see how things turn out and not mindlessly change now.
>
>> The choice is clear:
>
> Yep, wait and see how things pan out.
>
>> migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to be
>> DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.
>
> Or wait and see how things pan out till say Jan and decide then.
>
>> remember, you can't even port your number to another
>> carrier if you want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.
>
> Its still an ACTIVE service in Jan, stupid.
>
>> Unless system protocols are drastically changed and
>> there's absolutley no guarantee in this, you can't
>> reactivate a CDMA number after that network is closed.
>
> It aint closed in Jan, stupid.

sure is lovey, it closes on 28 jan, meaning it will be closed on 29 jan,
that is in jan

>> CDMA numbers with GSM prefixes on the Telstra network - maybe,
>
> No maybe about it.
>
>> and it's a maybe
>
> Nope, not in Jan it aint, stupid.
>
>> but don't hold your breath.
>
> No need to hold your breath in Jan, fool.
>
> <reams of your mindless puerile **** flushed where it belongs>
>
> Wota ****ing moron.
>
>

"Core2Duo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Spokes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Oct 19, 3:21 am, "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
>>> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?
>>>
>>> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed up
>>> to
>>> CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than GSM, the
>>> 'latest
>>> and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka Fizzler back in
>>> 1999),
>>> yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.
>>>
>>> Surely this is against basic consumer law.
>>
>> The CDMA closure is tough for some.
>> move on, get with it.
>> incentives are being thrown at you to migrate to nextg with the least
>> possible financial pain.
>> After jan 28, CDMA is no more and you will lose your mobile number if
>> you don't migrate beforehand, unless the mighty Roddles has a really
>> effective solution.
>>
>>
>
> What "incentives"?.

The free handset after 18 months offer, the $100 off.
>
>

"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the number for
>>>> quite
>>>> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that date.
>>
>>> Don't bet on it.
>>
>> No need to bet on anything. The only thing that makes any sense at all
>> is to wait and see how things turn out and not mindlessly change now.
>>
>>> The choice is clear:
>>
>> Yep, wait and see how things pan out.
>>
>>> migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to be
>>> DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.
>>
>> Or wait and see how things pan out till say Jan and decide then.
>>
>>> remember, you can't even port your number to another
>>> carrier if you want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.
>>
>> Its still an ACTIVE service in Jan, stupid.
>>
>>> Unless system protocols are drastically changed and
>>> there's absolutley no guarantee in this, you can't
>>> reactivate a CDMA number after that network is closed.
>>
>> It aint closed in Jan, stupid.
>
> sure is lovey, it closes on 28 jan,

Probably - Not definitely though.

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Michael <[email protected]> wrote:

>>>> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the number for quite
>>>> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that date.

>>> Don't bet on it.

>> No need to bet on anything. The only thing that makes any sense at all is to wait and see how things turn out and not
>> mindlessly change now.

>>> The choice is clear:

>> Yep, wait and see how things pan out.

>>> migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to be
>>> DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.

>> Or wait and see how things pan out till say Jan and decide then.

>>> remember, you can't even port your number to another
>>> carrier if you want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.

>> Its still an ACTIVE service in Jan, stupid.

>>> Unless system protocols are drastically changed and
>>> there's absolutley no guarantee in this, you can't
>>> reactivate a CDMA number after that network is closed.

>> It aint closed in Jan, stupid.

> sure is lovey,

**** off poofter.

> it closes on 28 jan,

Taint gunna happen, you watch.

> meaning it will be closed on 29 jan, that is in jan

Taint gunna happen, you watch.

>>> CDMA numbers with GSM prefixes on the Telstra network - maybe,

>> No maybe about it.

>>> and it's a maybe

>> Nope, not in Jan it aint, stupid.

>>> but don't hold your breath.

>> No need to hold your breath in Jan, fool.

>> <reams of your mindless puerile **** flushed where it belongs>

>> Wota ****ing moron.

You in spades.

Spokes <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Oct 28, 6:02 pm, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the
>>>>> number for quite
>>>>> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that
>>>>> date.
>>
>>>> Don't bet on it.
>>
>>> No need to bet on anything. The only thing that makes any sense at
>>> all is to wait and see how things turn out and not mindlessly
>>> change now.
>>
>>>> The choice is clear:
>>
>>> Yep, wait and see how things pan out.
>>
>>>> migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to be
>>>> DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.
>>
>>> Or wait and see how things pan out till say Jan and decide then.
>>
>>>> remember, you can't even port your number to another
>>>> carrier if you want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.
>>
>>> Its still an ACTIVE service in Jan, stupid.
>>
>>>> Unless system protocols are drastically changed and
>>>> there's absolutley no guarantee in this, you can't
>>>> reactivate a CDMA number after that network is closed.
>>
>>> It aint closed in Jan, stupid.
>>
>> sure is lovey, it closes on 28 jan, meaning it will be closed on 29
>> jan, that is in jan
>>
>>
>>
>>>> CDMA numbers with GSM prefixes on the Telstra network - maybe,
>>
>>> No maybe about it.
>>
>>>> and it's a maybe
>>
>>> Nope, not in Jan it aint, stupid.
>>
>>>> but don't hold your breath.
>>
>>> No need to hold your breath in Jan, fool.
>>
>>> <reams of your mindless puerile **** flushed where it belongs>
>>
>>> Wota ****ing moron.- Hide quoted text -
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> thank you michael...read your various posts today. roddles certainly
> stuffed up big time with his limited knowledge of the subject?

Never ever could bull**** its way out of a wet paper bag.

No surprise that the best it can manage is that pathetic excuse for a sheltered workshop.

Spokes wrote...

> incentives such as waiving early termination fees on your current plan
> if you migrate to Telstra nextg from your CDMA mobile or card.

If Telstra has customers on plans that extend beyond the cut-off date then how
can it continue to charge them for the plan? There would have to be provisions
under the Trade Practices Act that would force Telstra to offer such
"incentives", anyway.


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"Spokes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Oct 19, 3:21 am, "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Why should I have to be forced into buying an expensive new NEXT-G fancy
>> handset, when it is Telstra forcing me off CDMA?
>>
>> They made the decision to shut down their network, not me. I signed up to
>> CDMA in good faith that it was a new technology (newer than GSM, the
>> 'latest
>> and greatest' according to The Hon. Tim Fisher aka Fizzler back in 1999),
>> yet they now claim it is an ageing relic.
>>
>> Surely this is against basic consumer law.
>
> The CDMA closure is tough for some.
> move on, get with it.
> incentives are being thrown at you to migrate to nextg with the least
> possible financial pain.
> After jan 28, CDMA is no more and you will lose your mobile number if
> you don't migrate beforehand, unless the mighty Roddles has a really
> effective solution.
>
>
Nope, CDMA shutdown schedule is now dictated by Minister H. Coonan and
Attorney General Rudduck, not Telstra.



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"Spokes" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Oct 28, 6:02 pm, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the number
>> >>> for
>> >>> quite
>> >>> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that
>> >>> date.
>>
>> >> Don't bet on it.
>>
>> > No need to bet on anything. The only thing that makes any sense at all
>> > is to wait and see how things turn out and not mindlessly change now.
>>
>> >> The choice is clear:
>>
>> > Yep, wait and see how things pan out.
>>
>> >> migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to be
>> >> DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.
>>
>> > Or wait and see how things pan out till say Jan and decide then.
>>
>> >> remember, you can't even port your number to another
>> >> carrier if you want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.
>>
>> > Its still an ACTIVE service in Jan, stupid.
>>
>> >> Unless system protocols are drastically changed and
>> >> there's absolutley no guarantee in this, you can't
>> >> reactivate a CDMA number after that network is closed.
>>
>> > It aint closed in Jan, stupid.
>>
>> sure is lovey, it closes on 28 jan, meaning it will be closed on 29 jan,
>> that is in jan
>>
>>
>>
>> >> CDMA numbers with GSM prefixes on the Telstra network - maybe,
>>
>> > No maybe about it.
>>
>> >> and it's a maybe
>>
>> > Nope, not in Jan it aint, stupid.
>>
>> >> but don't hold your breath.
>>
>> > No need to hold your breath in Jan, fool.
>>
>> > <reams of your mindless puerile **** flushed where it belongs>
>>
>> > Wota ****ing moron.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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> thank you michael...read your various posts today. roddles certainly
> stuffed up big time with his limited knowledge of the subject?

Rod's got this mantra that CDMA won't be closed on 28/1/8 - as I've stated
before, unless the govt SPECIFICALLY STATES it wont be closed on 28/1/8,
then it will be

The govt could step in 27/1/8, or not at all

"Kwyjibo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>>> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the number
>>>>> for quite
>>>>> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that
>>>>> date.
>>>
>>>> Don't bet on it.
>>>
>>> No need to bet on anything. The only thing that makes any sense at all
>>> is to wait and see how things turn out and not mindlessly change now.
>>>
>>>> The choice is clear:
>>>
>>> Yep, wait and see how things pan out.
>>>
>>>> migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to be
>>>> DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.
>>>
>>> Or wait and see how things pan out till say Jan and decide then.
>>>
>>>> remember, you can't even port your number to another
>>>> carrier if you want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.
>>>
>>> Its still an ACTIVE service in Jan, stupid.
>>>
>>>> Unless system protocols are drastically changed and
>>>> there's absolutley no guarantee in this, you can't
>>>> reactivate a CDMA number after that network is closed.
>>>
>>> It aint closed in Jan, stupid.
>>
>> sure is lovey, it closes on 28 jan,
>
> Probably - Not definitely though.

Its definately unless the Govt changes its mind
>
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>

"Marts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Spokes wrote...
>
>> incentives such as waiving early termination fees on your current plan
>> if you migrate to Telstra nextg from your CDMA mobile or card.
>
> If Telstra has customers on plans that extend beyond the cut-off date then
> how
> can it continue to charge them for the plan?

They cant, and wont

Legally they cant charge ETCs on a service if THEY disconnect it on 28/1/8
for closure of network

They can certainly charge ETCs now if YOU chose to terminate your contract,
because thats your choice.
However, they are not doing so

> There would have to be provisions
> under the Trade Practices Act that would force Telstra to offer such
> "incentives", anyway.

Apart from the issue of ETC waiving, Telstra owe you NOTHING, so they arent
forced to offer you anything

Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Kwyjibo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> Just another bare faced lie. You still have the right to the
>>>>>> number for quite
>>>>>> a while after the cdma system stops, even if it does stop on that
>>>>>> date.
>>>>
>>>>> Don't bet on it.
>>>>
>>>> No need to bet on anything. The only thing that makes any sense at
>>>> all is to wait and see how things turn out and not mindlessly
>>>> change now.
>>>>> The choice is clear:
>>>>
>>>> Yep, wait and see how things pan out.
>>>>
>>>>> migrate to nextg or gsm, or allow your service to be
>>>>> DEACTIVATED when the CDMA network is closed down.
>>>>
>>>> Or wait and see how things pan out till say Jan and decide then.
>>>>
>>>>> remember, you can't even port your number to another
>>>>> carrier if you want, unless it is an ACTIVE service.
>>>>
>>>> Its still an ACTIVE service in Jan, stupid.
>>>>
>>>>> Unless system protocols are drastically changed and
>>>>> there's absolutley no guarantee in this, you can't
>>>>> reactivate a CDMA number after that network is closed.
>>>>
>>>> It aint closed in Jan, stupid.
>>>
>>> sure is lovey, it closes on 28 jan,
>>
>> Probably - Not definitely though.
>
> Its definately unless the Govt changes its mind

The govt has already done that, and decided that the govt gets to
set that date, not telstra, you stupid dunny cleaning ****wit child.