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  1. #16
    Snapper
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    Re: Skype phone

    Horry wrote...

    > Huh? You're obviously not referring to Next G (or even 3's HSDPA-enabled
    > network). GPRS, sure, but no-one would recommend using VOIP over GPRS.


    How else would it be done?

    Mind you, with all the terms that people fling around the place I am not
    even sure what any of them mean any more.

    > Even at Telstra's "gouging" excess usage charges, 50MB/hour is only
    > $7.50/hour (I think I've accurately quoted Telstra's excess usage charges).


    And 20 cents from a home phone if local, or ten cents flat rate anywhere
    if VOIP from home.

    But if you're on the go and use a mobile a lot then you're either using it
    for business or you have more money than sense.





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  2. #17
    Horry
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    Re: Skype phone

    On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:44:38 +1100, Snapper wrote:

    > Horry wrote...
    >
    >> Huh? You're obviously not referring to Next G (or even 3's HSDPA-enabled
    >> network). GPRS, sure, but no-one would recommend using VOIP over GPRS.

    >
    > How else would it be done?
    >
    > Mind you, with all the terms that people fling around the place I am not
    > even sure what any of them mean any more.
    >
    >> Even at Telstra's "gouging" excess usage charges, 50MB/hour is only
    >> $7.50/hour (I think I've accurately quoted Telstra's excess usage charges).

    >
    > And 20 cents from a home phone if local, or ten cents flat rate anywhere
    > if VOIP from home.
    >
    > But if you're on the go and use a mobile a lot then you're either using it
    > for business or you have more money than sense.


    You keep changing the topic.

    First you argued that "any mobile phone that can use VOIP be next to
    useless on any Australian network where data charges are prohibitively
    expensive".

    Then, after I showed you that the prices were NOT "prohibitively
    expensive", you argued that it would be cheaper to use "normal telephony
    services over a mobile" than to use VOIP.

    Now, after being shown that it could be cheaper to use VOIP over mobile
    than "normal telephony services over a mobile", you've started comparing
    mobile-originated VOIP to normal telephony services on a home phone plus
    VOIP from a home phone.

    You're being plain silly, and I'm not going to discuss things with you
    further until you stop being silly.

    (Incidentally, you forgot to factor in the monthly home phone line rental.)



  3. #18
    Snapper
    Guest

    Re: Skype phone

    Horry wrote...

    > You keep changing the topic.


    No I don't.

    > First you argued that "any mobile phone that can use VOIP be next to
    > useless on any Australian network where data charges are prohibitively
    > expensive".
    >
    > Then, after I showed you that the prices were NOT "prohibitively
    > expensive", you argued that it would be cheaper to use "normal telephony


    Maybe not for business users. But for the average non-business user they
    are prohibitiviely expensive which leads us into the home use scenario.

    > Now, after being shown that it could be cheaper to use VOIP over mobile
    > than "normal telephony services over a mobile", you've started comparing
    > mobile-originated VOIP to normal telephony services on a home phone plus
    > VOIP from a home phone.


    And a valid comparison it is, if your main phone is a mobile, which I
    assume a lot of people do these days.

    > You're being plain silly, and I'm not going to discuss things with you
    > further until you stop being silly.


    Go **** yourself, pretentious twat.

    > (Incidentally, you forgot to factor in the monthly home phone line rental.)


    $20/mth Homeline Budget. Or naked DSL that ISPs are starting to offer. All
    of these are a far better option than "VOIP over Mobile" particularly for
    those who yak on their mobiles at home.

    Like I said, some people have more money than sense when it comes to
    mobile usage, most notably kids who live out of their phones and their
    stupid parents who continue to pay their bills for them.




  4. #19
    Michael
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    Re: Skype phone


    "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Michael <[email protected]> wrote
    >> Horry <[email protected]> wrote
    >>> John Phillips wrote

    >
    >>>> Anything like this available in Oz and can be used world wide?

    >
    >>>> http://tinyurl.com/2akxx9

    >
    >>> Yes, see http://www.three.com.au/

    >
    >>> It's available on contract and prepaid ($149).

    >
    >> Horry, what is 3 playing at?

    >
    > Same thing every telco 'plays at'
    >
    >> Are they really stupid enough to cannabalise their own revenue stream,

    >
    > Any telco has to wear that.
    >
    >> which they so desperately need, in order to make a profit on their
    >> network?

    >
    > For that too.


    Roddles, can you explain to me how 3 is not shooting itself in the foot?

    Data is cheaper than voice calls, if you have a data pack.

    3 desperately need VOICE revenue to survive and become profitable





  5. #20
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Skype phone


    "Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:47b7a1c8$0$23432$c3e8d[email protected]
    > Michael wrote...
    >
    >> check your settings, works fine here

    >
    > no settings to "check". Didn't work fine here. Just timeouts. Every other
    > website that I tried worked fine.


    Worked fine here, so most likely your problem





  6. #21
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Skype phone

    Michael <[email protected]> wrote
    > Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    >> Michael <[email protected]> wrote
    >>> Horry <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>> John Phillips wrote


    >>>>> Anything like this available in Oz and can be used world wide?


    >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2akxx9


    >>>> Yes, see http://www.three.com.au/


    >>>> It's available on contract and prepaid ($149).


    >>> Horry, what is 3 playing at?


    >> Same thing every telco 'plays at'


    >>> Are they really stupid enough to cannabalise their own revenue stream,


    >> Any telco has to wear that.


    >>> which they so desperately need, in order to make a profit on their network?


    >> For that too.


    > Roddles, can you explain to me how 3 is not shooting itself in the foot?


    Likely more viable to try explaining it to a stone.

    > Data is cheaper than voice calls, if you have a data pack.


    And **** all of their customers will bother to do their voice calls that way.

    > 3 desperately need VOICE revenue to survive and become profitable


    They just need revenue, it doesnt have to be voice revenue, you stupid dunny cleaning ****wit child.





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