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  1. #1
    If other people think they have their Telstra troubles, then they will
    be interested in my problem. What Telstra did was allow someone to
    set up an apparently fixed telephone account, and have the bill sent
    to my personal address. At first I did not open the Telstra
    envelopes for about three months, and wrote "return to sender -- wrong
    address", blocking out my address; but then I received mail from
    Creditech, a division of Telstra, so I opened the letter and read what
    it was all about, and then wrote a letter explaining that the person
    concerned did not live at my address, and if they did not stop
    annoying me I would have to see a solicitor to have them sued for
    harassment.

    However letters from Creditech still kept arriving, and I did see a
    solicitor, who I am friends with, and he wrote them a letter
    threatening them. However, I then received correspondence from Dun &
    Bradstreet, acting on behalf of Telstra to collect amounts owing, and
    so it was back to the solicitor, who has written that court action
    will be taken on my behalf if this harassment does not stop, and, for
    about three weeks, I have heard nothing from Dun & Bradstreet. The
    main problem is that if nothing was done about the matter, it could be
    the case that anyone living at my address could be stopped from
    obtaining credit, as well as the fact that if I did not defend myself
    it might be assumed by the courts that I am really the person that the
    Telstra bills are meant for.

    I have my suspicions of who the person is who opened that account with
    Telstra, since he is a person who I recently underwent litigation with
    to my satisfaction, and, since he is a confidence man, he is likely to
    do anything, I, in fact, recently received mail from a different
    company for the same person involved in the Telstra scam, but no money
    was involved, and I was able to ring up the people concerned and
    explain the problem satisfactorily. In there is any more trouble, I
    suppose that I will have to take the matter to the police, but you
    have to be careful that you don't defame someone.

    What I am annoyed about with Telstra, however, is why they do not have
    adequate processes in place to stop someone from using a false address
    when setting up an account, and the fact that they did not bother to
    answer any correspondence from me or my solicitor, but just allowed
    the matter to go ahead to have Dun & Bradstreet harass me, in the hope
    perhaps that I would settle the account anyway, just for the sake of
    peace. Well, I will certainly not be doing any business with
    Telstra, if that is their ethical perspective. What Telstra is, now,
    I think, under the influence of the current wetbacks running the show,
    is a gangster organisation!



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  2. #2
    Horry
    Guest

    Re: Telstra -- a gangster organisation?

    On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:04:45 -0800 (PST), [email protected] wrote:

    > If other people think they have their Telstra troubles, then they will
    > be interested in my problem. What Telstra did was allow someone to
    > set up an apparently fixed telephone account, and have the bill sent
    > to my personal address. At first I did not open the Telstra
    > envelopes for about three months, and wrote "return to sender -- wrong
    > address", blocking out my address; but then I received mail from
    > Creditech, a division of Telstra, so I opened the letter and read what
    > it was all about, and then wrote a letter explaining that the person
    > concerned did not live at my address, and if they did not stop
    > annoying me I would have to see a solicitor to have them sued for
    > harassment.


    How is this "harassment"?

    It's just incorrectly addressed mail.

    In any event, there's no tort of "harassment".


    > However letters from Creditech still kept arriving, and I did see a
    > solicitor, who I am friends with, and he wrote them a letter
    > threatening them. However, I then received correspondence from Dun &
    > Bradstreet, acting on behalf of Telstra to collect amounts owing, and
    > so it was back to the solicitor, who has written that court action
    > will be taken on my behalf if this harassment does not stop, and, for
    > about three weeks, I have heard nothing from Dun & Bradstreet.


    Why are you going to all this trouble?

    Dun and Bradstreet are trying to collect from a third party who has given
    your address as their mailing address (perhaps intentionally, perhaps
    mistakenly).

    Other than the (miniscule) annoyance of receiving these letters, it has
    nothing to do with you.

    > The
    > main problem is that if nothing was done about the matter, it could be
    > the case that anyone living at my address could be stopped from
    > obtaining credit,


    That's not the case.

    > as well as the fact that if I did not defend myself
    > it might be assumed by the courts that I am really the person that the
    > Telstra bills are meant for.


    If your solicitor friend told you that, he ought go back to law school.

    The mail is not addressed to you (notwithstanding that it is being
    delivered to your place of residence). Telstra is not alleging that YOU
    owe it any money.

    The courts aren't going to assume anything about you because you wouldn't
    be a party to any legal proceeding. Dun & Bradstreet wouldn't have even
    known your name until you gave it to them by way of your letter.


    > I have my suspicions of who the person is who opened that account with
    > Telstra, since he is a person who I recently underwent litigation with
    > to my satisfaction, and, since he is a confidence man, he is likely to
    > do anything, I, in fact, recently received mail from a different
    > company for the same person involved in the Telstra scam, but no money
    > was involved, and I was able to ring up the people concerned and
    > explain the problem satisfactorily. In there is any more trouble, I
    > suppose that I will have to take the matter to the police, but you
    > have to be careful that you don't defame someone.


    If you're really worried about this (and unless you're not telling us
    something, I can't see why you would be), that may be a good idea. They
    won't do anything, but at least you'll have a record of having done
    something.


    > What I am annoyed about with Telstra, however, is why they do not have
    > adequate processes in place to stop someone from using a false address
    > when setting up an account,


    It's not a false address. The address must exist, because you live there.

    It would be unworkable if a copies of title deeds or tenancy agreements
    were required by every company to change address.

    No doubt Telstra knows the address at which the fixed line was actually
    connected.

    > and the fact that they did not bother to
    > answer any correspondence from me or my solicitor,


    That's because you have nothing to do with it. Telstra's relationship is
    with the mystery subscriber and not with you.

    > but just allowed
    > the matter to go ahead to have Dun & Bradstreet harass me,


    No-one is "harassing" you. The letters weren't even addressed to you.

    The absolute most you needed to do was mark the letters "not at this
    address", and pop them in a postbox when convenient.

    > in the hope
    > perhaps that I would settle the account anyway, just for the sake of
    > peace.


    That's just bull****.

    > Well, I will certainly not be doing any business with
    > Telstra, if that is their ethical perspective. What Telstra is, now,
    > I think, under the influence of the current wetbacks running the show,
    > is a gangster organisation!


    What happened to not defaming people?

    You're getting upset over nothing.




  3. #3
    Paul Day
    Guest

    Re: Telstra -- a gangster organisation?

    On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:04:45 [email protected] may have written:
    > If other people think they have their Telstra troubles, then they will
    > be interested in my problem. What Telstra did was allow someone to
    > set up an apparently fixed telephone account, and have the bill sent
    > to my personal address. At first I did not open the Telstra

    <snip>

    It sounds like you're caring more than you need to. If the name on the
    envelope isn't yours, you shouldn't be openning it, let alone wasting
    your time caring about it. Debt is owned by a person, not by an address.
    Just keep RTSing them.

    Now if Telstra somehow managed to terminate _your_ service with them
    because of it, I'd be kicking up a stink.

    I do agree re: openning an account with an incorrect address. Don't
    Telstra need two pieces of ID, one showing (what is likely to be) your
    current address (eg, recent bill from another utility, current driver's
    license), before you can open a telephone account?

    PD

    --
    Paul Day



  4. #4
    Horry
    Guest

    Re: Telstra -- a gangster organisation?

    On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:38:24 -0000, Paul Day wrote:

    > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:04:45 [email protected] may have written:
    >> If other people think they have their Telstra troubles, then they will
    >> be interested in my problem. What Telstra did was allow someone to
    >> set up an apparently fixed telephone account, and have the bill sent
    >> to my personal address. At first I did not open the Telstra

    > <snip>
    >
    > It sounds like you're caring more than you need to. If the name on the
    > envelope isn't yours, you shouldn't be openning it, let alone wasting
    > your time caring about it. Debt is owned by a person, not by an address.
    > Just keep RTSing them.
    >
    > Now if Telstra somehow managed to terminate _your_ service with them
    > because of it, I'd be kicking up a stink.
    >
    > I do agree re: openning an account with an incorrect address. Don't
    > Telstra need two pieces of ID, one showing (what is likely to be) your
    > current address (eg, recent bill from another utility, current driver's
    > license), before you can open a telephone account?


    I'm all but certain you can nominate any *billing* address you like. If
    I'm wrong, I'm sure Monsieur Michael J. Ellis will correct me. (And I know
    I've personally never provided Telstra with anything other than a telephone
    call to connect a home phone.)

    In any case, if Telstraa wants to, it wouldn't have too much trouble
    tracking down the mystery subscriber's real addresss. After all, it was a
    fixed line service.

    Of course, they won't trouble themselves doing that, and, unless the amount
    owing is considerable, Telstra's more likely to "sell" the debt to any
    mercantile agent silly enough to buy it.

    If the OP (Carson? Cartsten?) starts getting debt collectors repeatedly
    knocking on his door looking for the disappering debtor, then he'd have
    cause for complaint.



  5. #5
    thegoons
    Guest

    Re: Telstra -- a gangster organisation?

    Why didn't you ring the number of the fixed line service and tell them that
    you have been receiving their bills? Probably a clown at Telstra who typed
    the wrong billing address. You are making a mountain out of a molehill and
    your solicitor mate obviously hasn;t got a clue - is he the dodgy solicitor
    off 'The Castle'? Thanks, Dale Kerrigan.

    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > If other people think they have their Telstra troubles, then they will
    > be interested in my problem. What Telstra did was allow someone to
    > set up an apparently fixed telephone account, and have the bill sent
    > to my personal address. At first I did not open the Telstra
    > envelopes for about three months, and wrote "return to sender -- wrong
    > address", blocking out my address; but then I received mail from
    > Creditech, a division of Telstra, so I opened the letter and read what
    > it was all about, and then wrote a letter explaining that the person
    > concerned did not live at my address, and if they did not stop
    > annoying me I would have to see a solicitor to have them sued for
    > harassment.
    >
    > However letters from Creditech still kept arriving, and I did see a
    > solicitor, who I am friends with, and he wrote them a letter
    > threatening them. However, I then received correspondence from Dun &
    > Bradstreet, acting on behalf of Telstra to collect amounts owing, and
    > so it was back to the solicitor, who has written that court action
    > will be taken on my behalf if this harassment does not stop, and, for
    > about three weeks, I have heard nothing from Dun & Bradstreet. The
    > main problem is that if nothing was done about the matter, it could be
    > the case that anyone living at my address could be stopped from
    > obtaining credit, as well as the fact that if I did not defend myself
    > it might be assumed by the courts that I am really the person that the
    > Telstra bills are meant for.
    >
    > I have my suspicions of who the person is who opened that account with
    > Telstra, since he is a person who I recently underwent litigation with
    > to my satisfaction, and, since he is a confidence man, he is likely to
    > do anything, I, in fact, recently received mail from a different
    > company for the same person involved in the Telstra scam, but no money
    > was involved, and I was able to ring up the people concerned and
    > explain the problem satisfactorily. In there is any more trouble, I
    > suppose that I will have to take the matter to the police, but you
    > have to be careful that you don't defame someone.
    >
    > What I am annoyed about with Telstra, however, is why they do not have
    > adequate processes in place to stop someone from using a false address
    > when setting up an account, and the fact that they did not bother to
    > answer any correspondence from me or my solicitor, but just allowed
    > the matter to go ahead to have Dun & Bradstreet harass me, in the hope
    > perhaps that I would settle the account anyway, just for the sake of
    > peace. Well, I will certainly not be doing any business with
    > Telstra, if that is their ethical perspective. What Telstra is, now,
    > I think, under the influence of the current wetbacks running the show,
    > is a gangster organisation!




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  6. #6
    Alice
    Guest

    Re: Telstra -- a gangster organisation?

    [email protected] wrote:
    > If other people think they have their Telstra troubles, then they will
    > be interested in my problem.


    Your problem began when you started opening someone else's mail.

    > set up an apparently fixed telephone account, and have the bill sent
    > to my personal address. At first I did not open the Telstra
    > envelopes for about three months, and wrote "return to sender -- wrong
    > address", blocking out my address; but then I received mail from
    > Creditech, a division of Telstra, so I opened the letter and read what
    > it was all about, and then wrote a letter explaining that the person
    > concerned did not live at my address, and if they did not stop
    > annoying me I would have to see a solicitor to have them sued for
    > harassment.


    Wow, incorrectly addressed mail constitutes harassment in your eyes? Do
    you seek psychiatric counselling when someone beeps their car horn at
    you in traffic?

    >
    > However letters from Creditech still kept arriving, and I did see a
    > solicitor, who I am friends with, and he wrote them a letter
    > threatening them. However, I then received correspondence from Dun &
    > Bradstreet, acting on behalf of Telstra to collect amounts owing, and
    > so it was back to the solicitor, who has written that court action
    > will be taken on my behalf if this harassment does not stop, and, for
    > about three weeks, I have heard nothing from Dun & Bradstreet. The
    > main problem is that if nothing was done about the matter, it could be
    > the case that anyone living at my address could be stopped from
    > obtaining credit,


    Who fed you that particular load of crap - your 'solicitor' friend?


    > I have my suspicions of who the person is who opened that account with
    > Telstra, since he is a person who I recently underwent litigation with
    > to my satisfaction,


    Yep, you strike me as the sue-first, think-later type.



  7. #7
    Alan Parkington
    Guest

    Re: Telstra -- a gangster organisation?


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > If other people think they have their Telstra troubles, then they will
    > be interested in my problem.


    Typical racist rubbish. Pay your bills, deadbeat, and you'll be fine.




  8. #8
    thegoons
    Guest

    Re: Telstra -- a gangster organisation?


    "John Phillips" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:47:54 GMT "Alan Parkington"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> > If other people think they have their Telstra troubles, then they
    >> > will be interested in my problem.

    >>
    >> Typical racist rubbish.

    >
    > What's racist about the above statement, shrill?


    Parko felt virgmob007 was paying-out on the black Mexican wog.



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  9. #9
    John Phillips
    Guest

    Re: Telstra -- a gangster organisation?

    On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:35:08 +1100 "thegoons" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > > What's racist about the above statement, shrill?

    >
    > Parko felt virgmob007 was paying-out on the black Mexican wog.



    Even that is not racist! ;-)



  10. #10

    Re: Telstra -- a gangster organisation?

    On Feb 22, 9:38*pm, Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:04:45 [email protected] may have written:> If other people think they have their Telstra troubles, then they will
    > > be interested in my problem. *What Telstra did was allow someone to
    > > set up an apparently fixed telephone account, and have the bill sent
    > > to my personal address. *At first I did not open the Telstra

    >
    > <snip>
    >
    > It sounds like you're caring more than you need to. If the name on the
    > envelope isn't yours, you shouldn't be openning it, let alone wasting
    > your time caring about it. Debt is owned by a person, not by an address.
    > Just keep RTSing them


    My solicitor advised me to do absolutely nothing about it (i.e.throw
    the letters in the bin), and if Telstra's agents were stupid enough to
    somehow involve me in legal proceedings then they would pay a
    financial penalty. I was more wary about the matter, as, for one
    thing, I did not know what the financial consequences legally would be
    for myself, so I thought it best to try to reason with the Beast
    (i.e., Telstra's agents). For about a month now I have heard
    nothing from Dun & Bradstreet, so they finally must have got the
    message from my solicitor.

    The thing is, moreover, that I have received correspondence for the
    same person at my address as was involved with the Telstra scam, from
    another company, so it is someone deliberately targeting myself. If
    it is the person I think, then he is very legally cunning (and is
    regarded as a vexatious litigant by the legal fraternity), so there is
    bound to be some method in his madness. Perhaps it is the case that
    in relation to my opening of the letters is where he hopes to trap me
    legally, assuming there is some penalty involving opening letters
    posted to your address meant for another person. The sensible thing
    therefore to do was to follow my solicitor's original advice.

    >
    > Now if Telstra somehow managed to terminate _your_ service with them
    > because of it, I'd be kicking up a stink.
    >
    > I do agree re: openning an account with an incorrect address. Don't
    > Telstra need two pieces of ID, one showing (what is likely to be) your
    > current address (eg, recent bill from another utility, current driver's
    > license), before you can open a telephone account?
    >
    > PD
    >
    > --
    > Paul Day





  11. #11
    thegoons
    Guest

    Re: Telstra -- a gangster organisation?

    Why didn't you ring the landline and see who the **** answered?

    You want this to go on and on don't you?

    Involving solictors and the likes for a non-issue.

    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:a1110751-b8eb-41fc-beb2-95bd02d974e0@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
    On Feb 22, 9:38 pm, Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:04:45 [email protected] may have written:> If
    > other people think they have their Telstra troubles, then they will
    > > be interested in my problem. What Telstra did was allow someone to
    > > set up an apparently fixed telephone account, and have the bill sent
    > > to my personal address. At first I did not open the Telstra

    >
    > <snip>
    >
    > It sounds like you're caring more than you need to. If the name on the
    > envelope isn't yours, you shouldn't be openning it, let alone wasting
    > your time caring about it. Debt is owned by a person, not by an address.
    > Just keep RTSing them


    My solicitor advised me to do absolutely nothing about it (i.e.throw
    the letters in the bin), and if Telstra's agents were stupid enough to
    somehow involve me in legal proceedings then they would pay a
    financial penalty. I was more wary about the matter, as, for one
    thing, I did not know what the financial consequences legally would be
    for myself, so I thought it best to try to reason with the Beast
    (i.e., Telstra's agents). For about a month now I have heard
    nothing from Dun & Bradstreet, so they finally must have got the
    message from my solicitor.

    The thing is, moreover, that I have received correspondence for the
    same person at my address as was involved with the Telstra scam, from
    another company, so it is someone deliberately targeting myself. If
    it is the person I think, then he is very legally cunning (and is
    regarded as a vexatious litigant by the legal fraternity), so there is
    bound to be some method in his madness. Perhaps it is the case that
    in relation to my opening of the letters is where he hopes to trap me
    legally, assuming there is some penalty involving opening letters
    posted to your address meant for another person. The sensible thing
    therefore to do was to follow my solicitor's original advice.

    >
    > Now if Telstra somehow managed to terminate _your_ service with them
    > because of it, I'd be kicking up a stink.
    >
    > I do agree re: openning an account with an incorrect address. Don't
    > Telstra need two pieces of ID, one showing (what is likely to be) your
    > current address (eg, recent bill from another utility, current driver's
    > license), before you can open a telephone account?
    >
    > PD
    >
    > --
    > Paul Day




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  12. #12

    Re: Telstra -- a gangster organisation?

    On Feb 29, 4:50*pm, "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Why didn't you ring the landline and see who the **** answered?
    >
    > You want this to go on and on don't you?
    >
    > Involving solictors and the likes for a non-issue.


    No, Telstra obviously had cancelled the account a fair time ago, and
    was seeking payment. I only started to open the letters after
    Creditech was involved. The lesson here is that if anyone is in the
    same situation is not to do anything (or go to the trouble of RTSing),
    I suppose -- although it is all rather legally dicey, as there is no
    ethics in business!

    >
    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >
    > news:a1110751-b8eb-41fc-beb2-95bd02d974e0@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
    > On Feb 22, 9:38 pm, Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:04:45 [email protected] may have written:> If
    > > other people think they have their Telstra troubles, then they will
    > > > be interested in my problem. What Telstra did was allow someone to
    > > > set up an apparently fixed telephone account, and have the bill sent
    > > > to my personal address. At first I did not open the Telstra

    >
    > > <snip>

    >
    > > It sounds like you're caring more than you need to. If the name on the
    > > envelope isn't yours, you shouldn't be openning it, let alone wasting
    > > your time caring about it. Debt is owned by a person, not by an address.
    > > Just keep RTSing them

    >
    > My solicitor advised me to do absolutely nothing about it (i.e.throw
    > the letters in the bin), and if Telstra's agents were stupid enough to
    > somehow involve me in legal proceedings then they would pay a
    > financial penalty. * I was more wary about the matter, as, for one
    > thing, I did not know what the financial consequences legally would be
    > for myself, so I thought it best to try to reason with the Beast
    > (i.e., Telstra's agents). * *For about *a month now I have heard
    > nothing from Dun & Bradstreet, so they finally must have got the
    > message from my solicitor.
    >
    > The thing is, moreover, that I have received correspondence for the
    > same person at my address as was involved with the Telstra scam, from
    > another company, *so it is someone deliberately targeting myself. * If
    > it is the person I think, then he is very legally cunning (and is
    > regarded as a vexatious litigant by the legal fraternity), so there is
    > bound to be some method in his madness. * Perhaps it is the case that
    > in relation to my opening of the letters is where he hopes to trap me
    > legally, assuming there is some penalty involving opening letters
    > posted to your address meant for another person. * The sensible thing
    > therefore to do was to follow my solicitor's original advice.
    >
    >
    >
    > > Now if Telstra somehow managed to terminate _your_ service with them
    > > because of it, I'd be kicking up a stink.

    >
    > > I do agree re: openning an account with an incorrect address. Don't
    > > Telstra need two pieces of ID, one showing (what is likely to be) your
    > > current address (eg, recent bill from another utility, current driver's
    > > license), before you can open a telephone account?

    >
    > > PD

    >
    > > --
    > > Paul Day

    >
    > --
    > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com





  13. #13
    Horry
    Guest

    Re: Telstra -- a gangster organisation?

    On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:18:59 -0800 (PST), [email protected] wrote:

    > although it is all rather legally dicey,


    No it's not.



  14. #14
    thegoons
    Guest

    Re: Telstra -- a gangster organisation?

    Isn't it a Federal crime to open mail that is not addressed to you with your
    name on it?

    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:7e6e2a72-b18f-4cc7-b0c2-cc111cdbf805@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
    On Feb 29, 4:50 pm, "thegoons" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Why didn't you ring the landline and see who the **** answered?
    >
    > You want this to go on and on don't you?
    >
    > Involving solictors and the likes for a non-issue.


    No, Telstra obviously had cancelled the account a fair time ago, and
    was seeking payment. I only started to open the letters after
    Creditech was involved. The lesson here is that if anyone is in the
    same situation is not to do anything (or go to the trouble of RTSing),
    I suppose -- although it is all rather legally dicey, as there is no
    ethics in business!

    >
    > <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >
    > news:a1110751-b8eb-41fc-beb2-95bd02d974e0@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
    > On Feb 22, 9:38 pm, Paul Day <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:04:45 [email protected] may have written:>
    > > If
    > > other people think they have their Telstra troubles, then they will
    > > > be interested in my problem. What Telstra did was allow someone to
    > > > set up an apparently fixed telephone account, and have the bill sent
    > > > to my personal address. At first I did not open the Telstra

    >
    > > <snip>

    >
    > > It sounds like you're caring more than you need to. If the name on the
    > > envelope isn't yours, you shouldn't be openning it, let alone wasting
    > > your time caring about it. Debt is owned by a person, not by an address.
    > > Just keep RTSing them

    >
    > My solicitor advised me to do absolutely nothing about it (i.e.throw
    > the letters in the bin), and if Telstra's agents were stupid enough to
    > somehow involve me in legal proceedings then they would pay a
    > financial penalty. I was more wary about the matter, as, for one
    > thing, I did not know what the financial consequences legally would be
    > for myself, so I thought it best to try to reason with the Beast
    > (i.e., Telstra's agents). For about a month now I have heard
    > nothing from Dun & Bradstreet, so they finally must have got the
    > message from my solicitor.
    >
    > The thing is, moreover, that I have received correspondence for the
    > same person at my address as was involved with the Telstra scam, from
    > another company, so it is someone deliberately targeting myself. If
    > it is the person I think, then he is very legally cunning (and is
    > regarded as a vexatious litigant by the legal fraternity), so there is
    > bound to be some method in his madness. Perhaps it is the case that
    > in relation to my opening of the letters is where he hopes to trap me
    > legally, assuming there is some penalty involving opening letters
    > posted to your address meant for another person. The sensible thing
    > therefore to do was to follow my solicitor's original advice.
    >
    >
    >
    > > Now if Telstra somehow managed to terminate _your_ service with them
    > > because of it, I'd be kicking up a stink.

    >
    > > I do agree re: openning an account with an incorrect address. Don't
    > > Telstra need two pieces of ID, one showing (what is likely to be) your
    > > current address (eg, recent bill from another utility, current driver's
    > > license), before you can open a telephone account?

    >
    > > PD

    >
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    > > Paul Day

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  15. #15
    Horry
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    Re: Telstra -- a gangster organisation?

    On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:36:07 +1100, thegoons wrote:

    > Isn't it a Federal crime to open mail that is not addressed to you with your
    > name on it?


    A Buddhist monk here in Adelaide was prosecuted last year after he was
    caught opening Reader's Digest mail addressed to "The Householder".



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