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  1. #16
    Horry
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    Re: Spam

    On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:08:42 +1000, Kwyjibo wrote:

    >
    > "Horry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >> Agreed. Far either just to give them Micheal J Ellis' details. They
    >> rarely ask for ID unless it's required by law.
    >>
    >>

    > Far either? Do you have a lisp?


    I'm a Southerner.





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  2. #17
    Snapper
    Guest

    Re: Spam

    Michael wrote...

    > > I quickly rang Telstra and advised them that under no circumstances will I
    > > be responsible for any such costs that may appear on any future phone bills.

    >
    > What does that have to do with Telstra? Its your phone, not theirs


    Everything. Telstra is the one that issues the bills. I wanted to make it clear
    that if such charges appeared on my bill that I would not be paying them. The
    guy accomodated me by placing the bar on the service.

    It's called pro-active consumerism.

    > > If they insist then I say to them, well, I can go and buy this product
    > > from somewhere else or you can conclude the sale without the info. Your choice.


    > What a tool


    Well, ****wit, do you give all your details out to whoever you buy stuff from?
    If so, good luck to you. The rest of us would like to ensure some privacy in
    this ever increasingly privacy-less world...





  3. #18
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Spam


    "Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Michael wrote...
    >
    >> > I quickly rang Telstra and advised them that under no circumstances
    >> > will I
    >> > be responsible for any such costs that may appear on any future phone
    >> > bills.

    >>
    >> What does that have to do with Telstra? Its your phone, not theirs

    >
    > Everything. Telstra is the one that issues the bills. I wanted to make it
    > clear
    > that if such charges appeared on my bill that I would not be paying them.
    > The
    > guy accomodated me by placing the bar on the service.
    >
    > It's called pro-active consumerism.


    No, its called "wank wank wank" You, sir, are a wanker

    >> > If they insist then I say to them, well, I can go and buy this product
    >> > from somewhere else or you can conclude the sale without the info. Your
    >> > choice.

    >
    >> What a tool

    >
    > Well, ****wit, do you give all your details out to whoever you buy stuff
    > from?


    Sure, why not? I dont have a tinfoil hat either, are they the latest
    fashion?

    > If so, good luck to you. The rest of us would like to ensure some privacy
    > in
    > this ever increasingly privacy-less world...


    Stop being a big girls blouse.
    >
    >






  4. #19
    Horry
    Guest

    Re: Spam

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:48:06 +0000, Michael wrote:

    >
    > "Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Michael wrote...
    >>
    >>> > I quickly rang Telstra and advised them that under no circumstances
    >>> > will I
    >>> > be responsible for any such costs that may appear on any future phone
    >>> > bills.
    >>>
    >>> What does that have to do with Telstra? Its your phone, not theirs

    >>
    >> Everything. Telstra is the one that issues the bills. I wanted to make
    >> it clear
    >> that if such charges appeared on my bill that I would not be paying
    >> them. The
    >> guy accomodated me by placing the bar on the service.
    >>
    >> It's called pro-active consumerism.

    >
    > No, its called "wank wank wank" You, sir, are a wanker
    >
    >>> > If they insist then I say to them, well, I can go and buy this
    >>> > product from somewhere else or you can conclude the sale without the
    >>> > info. Your choice.

    >>
    >>> What a tool

    >>
    >> Well, ****wit, do you give all your details out to whoever you buy stuff
    >> from?

    >
    > Sure, why not? I dont have a tinfoil hat either, are they the latest
    > fashion?


    What's the relevance of tinfoil hats?

    He just hates marketing crap, and giving your details out to businesses is
    a great way to ensure you receive marketing crap.





  5. #20
    Paul Day
    Guest

    Re: Spam

    On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:48:06 Michael may have written:
    > > Well, ****wit, do you give all your details out to whoever you buy stuff
    > > from?

    >
    > Sure, why not?


    Becuase you might value your privacy?

    PD

    --
    Paul Day



  6. #21
    Kwyjibo
    Guest

    Re: Spam


    "Horry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:48:06 +0000, Michael wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> "Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>> Michael wrote...
    >>>
    >>>> > I quickly rang Telstra and advised them that under no circumstances
    >>>> > will I
    >>>> > be responsible for any such costs that may appear on any future phone
    >>>> > bills.
    >>>>
    >>>> What does that have to do with Telstra? Its your phone, not theirs
    >>>
    >>> Everything. Telstra is the one that issues the bills. I wanted to make
    >>> it clear
    >>> that if such charges appeared on my bill that I would not be paying
    >>> them. The
    >>> guy accomodated me by placing the bar on the service.
    >>>
    >>> It's called pro-active consumerism.

    >>
    >> No, its called "wank wank wank" You, sir, are a wanker
    >>
    >>>> > If they insist then I say to them, well, I can go and buy this
    >>>> > product from somewhere else or you can conclude the sale without the
    >>>> > info. Your choice.
    >>>
    >>>> What a tool
    >>>
    >>> Well, ****wit, do you give all your details out to whoever you buy stuff
    >>> from?

    >>
    >> Sure, why not? I dont have a tinfoil hat either, are they the latest
    >> fashion?

    >
    > What's the relevance of tinfoil hats?


    They provide 'splashback' protection for Mr Ellis while he carries out the
    duties of his chosen vocation.

    --
    Kwyj.





  7. #22
    Snapper
    Guest

    Re: Spam

    Horry wrote...

    > What's the relevance of tinfoil hats?


    He's grasping at, well, tinfoil hats...

    > He just hates marketing crap, and giving your details out to businesses is
    > a great way to ensure you receive marketing crap.


    Perazkly.

    To top it off we're regularly getting faxes from mobs selling holidays, winery
    tours and so on.

    I think that I may know the culprit who "onsold" our fax number as it isn't
    listed. It's a faxstream duet service with distinctive ring on the home phone
    line.

    What annoys me is that machine, a Brother MFC, gets used occasionally for
    printing, more for scanning and sending faxes. So, most of the ink in the
    picolitre sized ink tanks gets wasted on these faxes. And there's no return
    number to call them to tell 'em to **** off, just the advertiser.

    If I had THEIR fax number a few solid black pages would be on their way, every
    day...





  8. #23
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Spam

    Snapper <[email protected]> wrote
    > Horry wrote


    >> What's the relevance of tinfoil hats?


    > He's grasping at, well, tinfoil hats...


    >> He just hates marketing crap, and giving your details out to
    >> businesses is a great way to ensure you receive marketing crap.


    > Perazkly.


    > To top it off we're regularly getting faxes from mobs selling holidays, winery tours and so on.


    > I think that I may know the culprit who "onsold" our fax number as it
    > isn't listed. It's a faxstream duet service with distinctive ring on
    > the home phone line.


    > What annoys me is that machine, a Brother MFC, gets used occasionally
    > for printing, more for scanning and sending faxes. So, most of the
    > ink in the picolitre sized ink tanks gets wasted on these faxes. And
    > there's no return number to call them to tell 'em to **** off, just
    > the advertiser.


    > If I had THEIR fax number a few solid black pages would be on their
    > way, every day...


    Try putting a caller ID displaying phone on the line to see if you can get the number that way.





  9. #24
    Snapper
    Guest

    Re: Spam

    Rod Speed wrote...

    > Try putting a caller ID displaying phone on the line to see if you can get the number that way.


    I have. They all come up as "private caller", with the occasional "overseas' on
    the CLID.





  10. #25
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Spam

    Snapper <[email protected]> wrote
    > Rod Speed wrote


    >> Try putting a caller ID displaying phone on the
    >> line to see if you can get the number that way.


    > I have. They all come up as "private caller", with the occasional "overseas' on the CLID.


    Then unless you have foip (fax over voip), it wouldnt be much use to you anyway.

    The better faxes can reject fax calls that dont present their caller ID,
    or just use the PC to receive faxes, so you dont waste ink on the spam.

    It should even be possible to have the PC recieve only the faxes that
    dont present their Caller ID.





  11. #26
    brian w edginton
    Guest

    Re: Spam

    On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:48:10 +1000, Snapper
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Rod Speed wrote...
    >
    >> Try putting a caller ID displaying phone on the line to see if you can get the number that way.

    >
    >I have. They all come up as "private caller", with the occasional "overseas' on
    >the CLID.
    >
    >



    My "betting voucher" call in Lismore came from an anonymous number.
    Landlord reckons his in Grafton came from an 08 number......???

    -----------------------------------------------


    Death is Nature's way of telling you you aren't
    needed, any more.



  12. #27
    Snapper
    Guest

    Re: Spam

    Rod Speed wrote...

    > The better faxes can reject fax calls that dont present their caller ID,


    That would be a handy feature. I have a Brother MFC, but it's the cheaper model,
    bought two years ago. Still, I'll check its settings out, though I don't recall
    seeing anything like that.

    > or just use the PC to receive faxes, so you dont waste ink on the spam.


    Another option but that requires a fax modem and a PC to be running all the
    time. which I have neither of.

    Probably the easiest option is to see if Telstra will change the faxstream
    number. Of course whoever gets my number in the reallocation process may be
    stuck with fax screeching when a call comes in...




  13. #28
    Snapper
    Guest

    Re: Spam

    brian w edginton wrote...

    > My "betting voucher" call in Lismore came from an anonymous number.
    > Landlord reckons his in Grafton came from an 08 number......???


    I've posted the two numbers of the trivial contest and the betting mob here in
    other messages. One, I think, was from QLD, the other from NSW.

    I now will ignore all incoming calls that originate from out of state as I know
    no-one who lives interstate who has my mobile. If it comes via a private caller,
    then I need to decide, as I get calls from work that are unlisted numbers.



  14. #29
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Spam

    Snapper <[email protected]> wrote
    > Rod Speed wrote


    >> The better faxes can reject fax calls that dont present their caller ID,


    > That would be a handy feature. I have a Brother MFC, but it's
    > the cheaper model, bought two years ago. Still, I'll check its
    > settings out, though I don't recall seeing anything like that.


    >> or just use the PC to receive faxes, so you dont waste ink on the spam.


    > Another option but that requires a fax modem


    Your dialup modem should be able to do that fine. Presumably
    you still have one of those for when the broadband is down etc.
    They cost peanuts now even if you dont.

    > and a PC to be running all the time.


    Yeah, tho I always have 2 on all the time.

    > which I have neither of.


    > Probably the easiest option is to see if Telstra will change the faxstream number.


    Yeah, they certainly will. Presumably there is a small charge for that.

    > Of course whoever gets my number in the reallocation process
    > may be stuck with fax screeching when a call comes in...


    They dont reallocate it immediately and by then the spammer
    may well have taken it of the list when it never answers.

    Or just leave the fax off and only turn it on when you expect an incoming fax. Thats what I do, I get so few now.





  15. #30
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Spam

    Snapper <[email protected]> wrote
    > brian w edginton wrote


    >> My "betting voucher" call in Lismore came from an anonymous number.
    >> Landlord reckons his in Grafton came from an 08 number......???


    > I've posted the two numbers of the trivial contest and the betting mob here
    > in other messages. One, I think, was from QLD, the other from NSW.


    > I now will ignore all incoming calls that originate from out of state
    > as I know no-one who lives interstate who has my mobile. If it comes
    > via a private caller, then I need to decide, as I get calls from work
    > that are unlisted numbers.


    And you can get calls from operations like the cops or the hospital etc
    that dont show their caller ID. It would be a real problem if she who
    must be obeyed etc ended up in a car crash etc and couldnt call you.





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