More info on Oz's iPone

Polly the Parrot wrote...

> Situation is they are probably ignorant Septics.
>
> Even texting by sms seems hard for them to do.

Not all of them are.

What I found strange was that pagers were popular ten years ago. People would
have both a pager and a mobile. I used to ask them what the point of that was.
So they could page me to get them to call them. Would not it be simpler, easier
and cheaper to simply get them to call you on the mobile, I asked?

Perhaps messaging over there is expensive. Who knows. It may be a cultural
thing. For example, in the doctor's waiting room the other day two teenager
girls came in, separately. Sat down and immediately out came the phones and the
texting started. The keypress beeps and alerts for incoming msgs was ****ing
annoying to say the least.

Perhaps all of their checkout chick wages go on supporting the phone service and
they rely on their boyfriends to keep them in other expenses or their parents,
perhaps.

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Snapper <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>> And then they realise they dont have the email address.

> Yep, particularly if you're trying to send the photo to their phone...

>>> And that costs more money and requires the recipient to either be
>>> at their computer or to have a similar service on their own mobile.

>> Most would do with high end phones tho.

> I wonder. How many of these phones automatically receive emails
> without having to get it to log in to retrieve email? My Palm Treo
> 750 was like that. It could do it automatically, but you're paying
> charges, or you could configure it so it would only log in when you
> manually commanded it to.

> Is the Blackberry an "always connected" phone for email and the like?

Yep.

>>> Might be the conspiracy to get people to spend
>>> ****loads on internet data charges, perhaps...

>> Dunno, the AT&T plan is basically 'unlimited' data, so thats unlikely to be the reason.

> That'd be handy. But here in Oz, they seem to think that the electrical
> impulses or light flashes that go down the fibre optics are made of
> rare platinum with gold flecks, so they charge accordingly.

Yeah, just another different way the various systems evolved, like with
free local calls and mobile calls costing the called party to receive.

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:21:00 +0100, Will Kemp wrote:

> Snapper wrote:
>> Polly the Parrot wrote...
>>
>>> Situation is they are probably ignorant Septics.
>>>
>>> Even texting by sms seems hard for them to do.
>>
>> Not all of them are.
>>
>> What I found strange was that pagers were popular ten years ago. People would
>> have both a pager and a mobile. I used to ask them what the point of that was.
>> So they could page me to get them to call them. Would not it be simpler, easier
>> and cheaper to simply get them to call you on the mobile, I asked?
>>
>> Perhaps messaging over there is expensive. Who knows. It may be a cultural
>> thing. For example, in the doctor's waiting room the other day two teenager
>> girls came in, separately. Sat down and immediately out came the phones and the
>> texting started. The keypress beeps and alerts for incoming msgs was ****ing
>> annoying to say the least.
>
> Were you in there to get another script of valium?

Catty, catty, catty.

Will Kemp wrote...

> > Perhaps messaging over there is expensive. Who knows. It may be a cultural
> > thing. For example, in the doctor's waiting room the other day two teenager
> > girls came in, separately. Sat down and immediately out came the phones and the
> > texting started. The keypress beeps and alerts for incoming msgs was ****ing
> > annoying to say the least.
>
> Were you in there to get another script of valium?

Why, were you?

Actually, it was the dentist's. My wife was getting dental work done and I was
waiting for her. Not that I really need to explain that to you, do I?

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> We also asked why would they lock the iPhone to the network. It's not as
>>> if you're gonna go running off to another network when you're committed
>>> to say, a 24mth plan, is it?
>
>> People do it all the time
>
> Not in this country with non prepaid phones they dont.

bull****. people do it all the time. heaps of people end their contracts
early with little penalty and would want the phone unlocked

"Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Michael wrote...
>
>> > We also asked why would they lock the iPhone to the network. It's not
>> > as
>> > if you're gonna go running off to another network when you're committed
>> > to
>> > say, a 24mth plan, is it?
>>
>> People do it all the time
>
> You're kidding. Why would people sign up for a 2 year contract, then have
> to pay
> the exit fees, which effectively would cover the cost of the phone?

Phones dont tend to last 2 years. b/w 18 and 24 months, many people end
their contract early to take up a new phone. most providers penalties are
pro-rata'ed and reasonable. some dont charge a penalty if you end in the
last 2 motnhs

> And if this is the case then why lock the phone in the first place? After
> all,

You'd have to ask Apple that

> In any case if it can't be unlocked then we won't get one. It will be
> useless to
> us overseas. The idea is to buy pre-paid SIMs while in the US and Europe.
> International roaming is gouging at its worst, whether it's from the
> companies
> here or in the host country.
>
> Last time we did that we were getting bills 3 months after we got home

you keep raising that point, not sure what the relevance is

>> And presumably the 8GB N95 which will be useable on NextG sometime.
>
> We won't be getting that one. Telstra's plan for the N95 NextG is around
> $100 a
> month I think it is. Or maybe it's $80. Dunno. Haven't looked lately.
> Whatever,

No its not, thats just ONE option.

Take it out on MRO if they will let you - you just pay the cost of the
installments off over 24 mths

Mine's on MRO

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Snapper <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Something I just found out about the iPhone - it apparently doesn't do
>> MMS'ing.
>
> Yeah, its weirdly limited.
>
> Not clear if that is because the 'designers' have never designed a mobile
> phone before or whether they are just terminal ****wits with stupid ideas.

Terminal ****wits is my guess

> What I found strange was that pagers were popular ten years ago. People
> would
> have both a pager and a mobile. I used to ask them what the point of that
> was.
> So they could page me to get them to call them. Would not it be simpler,
> easier
> and cheaper to simply get them to call you on the mobile, I asked?

Its because they charge for incoming calls, so you were better off getting a
page and ringing someone back

Some providers now bundle the incoming call minutes into the general minutes
bundled

They charge for incoming calls as they do not have seperate number ranges
for mobiles

"Will Kemp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Snapper wrote:
>> Polly the Parrot wrote...
>>
>>> Situation is they are probably ignorant Septics.
>>>
>>> Even texting by sms seems hard for them to do.
>>
>> Not all of them are.
>>
>> What I found strange was that pagers were popular ten years ago. People
>> would
>> have both a pager and a mobile. I used to ask them what the point of that
>> was.
>> So they could page me to get them to call them. Would not it be simpler,
>> easier
>> and cheaper to simply get them to call you on the mobile, I asked?
>>
>> Perhaps messaging over there is expensive. Who knows. It may be a
>> cultural
>> thing. For example, in the doctor's waiting room the other day two
>> teenager
>> girls came in, separately. Sat down and immediately out came the phones
>> and the
>> texting started. The keypress beeps and alerts for incoming msgs was
>> ****ing
>> annoying to say the least.
>
> Were you in there to get another script of valium?

Valium is no longer sold

"Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Rod Speed wrote...
>
>> And then they realise they dont have the email address.
>
> Yep, particularly if you're trying to send the photo to their phone...
>
>> > And that costs more money and requires the recipient to either be
>> > at their computer or to have a similar service on their own mobile.
>>
>> Most would do with high end phones tho.
>
> I wonder. How many of these phones automatically receive emails without
> having
> to get it to log in to retrieve email? My Palm Treo 750 was like that. It
> could

The N95 does.

> Is the Blackberry an "always connected" phone for email and the like?

yes

"Alan Parkington" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
>
> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Yeah, I dont actually use 3G much at all, but do want to for when I do.
>>
>
>
> Only use is for farmers to download hi-speed porn, eh "Roddles the
> luddite"?

rod never said anything like that
>

Michael wrote...

> > Last time we did that we were getting bills 3 months after we got home
>
> you keep raising that point, not sure what the relevance is

It has to do with being able to use a phone that is unlocked with a pre-paid SIM
when overseas. Saves on exhorbitant international roaming charges.

That's the relevance.

Michael wrote...

> They charge for incoming calls as they do not have seperate number ranges
> for mobiles

Why?