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- 06-09-2008, 10:45 PM #1SnapperGuest
http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G network,
which will be a blow to many travelling business people who may roam outside of
the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently dominates.
It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be interesting
to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at what price range.
Hopefully Telstra will make an announcement on this soon. It may be the
replacement that my wife wants when her contract expires. If it does everything
that the iTouch or iPod Classic does it will be the perfect replacement phone.
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- 06-09-2008, 11:00 PM #2HorryGuest
Re: More info on Oz's iPone
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>
> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G
> network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people who may
> roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently
> dominates.
>
> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at
> what price range.
Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At USD199,
it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
(And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current
exchange rate).
I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
- 06-10-2008, 12:45 AM #3HorryGuest
Re: More info on Oz's iPone
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
>
>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>>
>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G
>> network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people who may
>> roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently
>> dominates.
>>
>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
>> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at
>> what price range.
>
> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At USD199,
> it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
>
> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in Australia
> for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current exchange rate).
http://www.itwire.com/content/view/18678/1085/
"If Jobs sticks to his global pricing parity promise, the 8GB iPhone 2.0 will
sell for around $AU220 in Australia. At that kind of bargain basement
price for the iPhone 2.0, you'd be lucky to get $AU100 for your old iPhone
on eBay. Most people would rather keep their iPhone 1.0 as an iPod touch,
or hand it down to a friend, than sell it for a mere $100."
- 06-10-2008, 03:11 AM #4HorryGuest
Re: More info on Oz's iPone
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>>>
>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G
>>> network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people who
>>> may roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently
>>> dominates.
>>>
>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
>>> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at
>>> what price range.
>>
>>Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At USD199,
>>it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
>>
>>(And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in Australia
>>for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current exchange rate).
>>
>>I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
>>current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
>>
>>
> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can only get
> it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or Vodafone..... and you
> cannot buy it from the Apple store.
You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July 11. It
was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian retailers
stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with a mandatory
24-month network connection?
- 06-10-2008, 03:30 AM #5Rod SpeedGuest
Re: More info on Oz's iPone
Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>>>>
>>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900
>>>> Mhz 3G network, which will be a blow to many travelling business
>>>> people who may roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz
>>>> system currently dominates.
>>>>
>>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will
>>>> be interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone
>>>> and at what price range.
>>>
>>> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At
>>> USD199, it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
>>>
>>> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
>>> Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current
>>> exchange rate).
>>>
>>> I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
>>> current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
>>>
>>>
>> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can
>> only get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or
>> Vodafone..... and you cannot buy it from the Apple store.
>
> You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July
> 11. It was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
>
> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian
> retailers stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with
> a mandatory 24-month network connection?
Thats what they did with the first one.
- 06-10-2008, 03:41 AM #6HorryGuest
Re: More info on Oz's iPone
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:30:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
> Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz
>>>>> 3G network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people
>>>>> who may roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system
>>>>> currently dominates.
>>>>>
>>>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
>>>>> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and
>>>>> at what price range.
>>>>
>>>> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At
>>>> USD199, it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
>>>>
>>>> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
>>>> Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current
>>>> exchange rate).
>>>>
>>>> I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
>>>> current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can only
>>> get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or Vodafone..... and
>>> you cannot buy it from the Apple store.
>>
>> You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July 11.
>> It was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
>>
>> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian retailers
>> stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with a mandatory
>> 24-month network connection?
>
> Thats what they did with the first one.
Well, they tried to... without much success.
http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/Apple-iPhone-s/21.htm
Even worst case scenario, it should be possible to buy it on contract then
pay out the network's early termination fee. Or import one from o/seas or
a place like the site linked to above (at $199 warranties aren't a huge
concern -- other than replacement for DOA units).
- 06-10-2008, 03:43 AM #7HorryGuest
Re: More info on Oz's iPone
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:41:46 +0900, Horry wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:30:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz
>>>>>> 3G network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people
>>>>>> who may roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system
>>>>>> currently dominates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
>>>>>> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and
>>>>>> at what price range.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At
>>>>> USD199, it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
>>>>>
>>>>> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
>>>>> Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current
>>>>> exchange rate).
>>>>>
>>>>> I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
>>>>> current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can only
>>>> get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or Vodafone..... and
>>>> you cannot buy it from the Apple store.
>>>
>>> You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July 11.
>>> It was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
>>>
>>> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian
>>> retailers stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with a
>>> mandatory 24-month network connection?
>>
>> Thats what they did with the first one.
>
> Well, they tried to... without much success.
>
> http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/Apple-iPhone-s/21.htm
>
> Even worst case scenario, it should be possible to buy it on contract then
> pay out the network's early termination fee. Or import one from o/seas or
> a place like the site linked to above (at $199 warranties aren't a huge
> concern -- other than replacement for DOA units).
Or buy it on a prepaid plan.
"THOUSANDS of Australians have already paid deposits on Apple's new 3G iPhone- which will also be available on prepay plans.
"Both Optus and Vodafone today confirmed they would offer the next-gen iPhone on a prepay plan when it goes on sale on July 11."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...31-661,00.html
- 06-10-2008, 03:44 AM #8Paul DayGuest
Re: More info on Oz's iPone
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:11:19 Horry may have written:
> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian retailers
> stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with a mandatory
> 24-month network connection?
Yes.
PD
--
Paul Day
- 06-10-2008, 03:54 AM #9HorryGuest
Re: More info on Oz's iPone
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:44:05 -0500, Paul Day wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:11:19 Horry may have written:
>> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian retailers
>> stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with a mandatory
>> 24-month network connection?
>
> Yes.
You're wrong.
Optus and Vodafone have both said it'll be available on prepaid.
- 06-10-2008, 12:34 PM #10Rod SpeedGuest
Re: More info on Oz's iPone
Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:30:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900
>>>>>> Mhz 3G network, which will be a blow to many travelling business
>>>>>> people who may roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100
>>>>>> Mhz system currently dominates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It
>>>>>> will be interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the
>>>>>> iPhone and at what price range.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At
>>>>> USD199, it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
>>>>>
>>>>> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
>>>>> Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our
>>>>> current exchange rate).
>>>>>
>>>>> I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than
>>>>> the current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can
>>>> only get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or
>>>> Vodafone..... and you cannot buy it from the Apple store.
>>>
>>> You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July
>>> 11. It was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
>>>
>>> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian
>>> retailers stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled
>>> with a mandatory 24-month network connection?
>>
>> Thats what they did with the first one.
>
> Well, they tried to... without much success.
Lot of success actually world wide.
> http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/Apple-iPhone-s/21.htm
Pity about what happens if you have a warranty problem.
> Even worst case scenario, it should be possible to buy it
> on contract then pay out the network's early termination fee.
Nope, you're ****ed if you want to make a warranty claim too.
> Or import one from o/seas or a place like the site linked to above (at $199
> warranties aren't a huge concern -- other than replacement for DOA units).
I still want a warranty at that price.
- 06-10-2008, 12:36 PM #11Rod SpeedGuest
Re: More info on Oz's iPone
Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:41:46 +0900, Horry wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:30:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
>>
>>> Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new
>>>>>>> 900 Mhz 3G network, which will be a blow to many travelling
>>>>>>> business people who may roam outside of the metro areas where
>>>>>>> the 2100 Mhz system currently dominates.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It
>>>>>>> will be interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market
>>>>>>> the iPhone and at what price range.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At
>>>>>> USD199, it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
>>>>>> Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our
>>>>>> current exchange rate).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than
>>>>>> the current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can
>>>>> only get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or
>>>>> Vodafone..... and you cannot buy it from the Apple store.
>>>>
>>>> You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July
>>>> 11. It was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
>>>>
>>>> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian
>>>> retailers stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled
>>>> with a mandatory 24-month network connection?
>>>
>>> Thats what they did with the first one.
>>
>> Well, they tried to... without much success.
>>
>> http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/Apple-iPhone-s/21.htm
>>
>> Even worst case scenario, it should be possible to buy it on
>> contract then pay out the network's early termination fee. Or import
>> one from o/seas or a place like the site linked to above (at $199
>> warranties aren't a huge concern -- other than replacement for DOA
>> units).
> Or buy it on a prepaid plan.
Only povs, drug runners and children use prepaid.
> "THOUSANDS of Australians have already paid deposits on Apple's
> new 3G iPhone- which will also be available on prepay plans.
> "Both Optus and Vodafone today confirmed they would offer the
> next-gen iPhone on a prepay plan when it goes on sale on July 11."
> http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...31-661,00.html
- 06-10-2008, 07:00 PM #12SnapperGuest
Re: More info on Oz's iPone
Horry wrote...
> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At USD199,
> it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
Won't it be locked to a particular network, though? If it won't be then that's
what I'll do.
My wife has a 3G SIM card in her Nokia 6233. It works on GSM out here in the
stix and goes onto Telstra's 3G network when we get closer to Melbourne. I
wonder what network the iPhone would connect to if her 3G SIM was put in it.
Would it connect to NextG or would it only connect to 3G when in range?
ie. what differences are there between 3G and NextG SIM cards?
- 06-10-2008, 07:35 PM #13Paul DayGuest
Re: More info on Oz's iPone
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:00:40 Snapper may have written:
> ie. what differences are there between 3G and NextG SIM cards?
The logo on the front.
PD
--
Paul Day
- 06-11-2008, 12:05 PM #14HorryGuest
Re: More info on Oz's iPone
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
>
> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G
> network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people who may
> roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently
> dominates.
>
> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at
> what price range.
>
> Hopefully Telstra will make an announcement on this soon. It may be the
> replacement that my wife wants when her contract expires. If it does
> everything that the iTouch or iPod Classic does it will be the perfect
> replacement phone.
Here's some more (mis)information to add to what we currently know
(courtesy of an Optus "leak" to Gizmodo).
It's must be at least partially inaccurate, because there's no mention of
prepaid (which Optus has already stated it will be available on). Then
again, the Optus CEO said the 3G iPhone sold by Optus would provide 3G
service to 96% of the Australian population by the end of the year... yet
the 3G iPhone doesn't operate on the 900Mhz frequency, which is what much
of Optus' rural and regional network will be...
Anyway:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/06/ex...g_details.html
"So, if you're an Optus customer, here's what you can expect:
* The iPhone is only available on a 24 month contract - you can't purchase
it outright
* The 8GB model will cost $220, the 16GB $330 * Only the 16GB is available
in white * Optus won't be selling accessories - they will be sold through
the Apple store * There will be two plans available:
a $79 cap with 1GB data and $300 worth of calls; and a $99 cap with 3GB
of data and $400 worth of calls
* Both plans include Visual Voicemail * 30c flagfall; 35c per 30 seconds
talk, 25c SMS messages"
- 06-11-2008, 07:15 PM #15SnapperGuest
Re: More info on Oz's iPone
Horry wrote...
> "So, if you're an Optus customer, here's what you can expect:
>
> * The iPhone is only available on a 24 month contract - you can't purchase
> it outright
> * There will be two plans available:
> a $79 cap with 1GB data and $300 worth of calls; and a $99 cap with 3GB
> of data and $400 worth of calls
Wow. They really do expect to gouge the technophiles, huh?
So, does this mean then, that in addition to paying for the cost of the phone,
say, $299, that you also have to go onto an $80/month plan at a minimum?
I wonder what telcos in the US will be "offering" their customers?
Looks like we'll be sticking with what we have for the foreseeable future, if
indeed, the above turns out to be true.
I wonder, though, if it's not true, if you pay the $50 pre-ordering deposit if
the plans that they do eventually release are the above, and they're not to your
liking, will they refund the $50? I know that it's refunded after you sign up
when you receive the product. But before that?
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