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  1. #1
    Snapper
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    http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150

    According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G network,
    which will be a blow to many travelling business people who may roam outside of
    the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently dominates.

    It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be interesting
    to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at what price range.

    Hopefully Telstra will make an announcement on this soon. It may be the
    replacement that my wife wants when her contract expires. If it does everything
    that the iTouch or iPod Classic does it will be the perfect replacement phone.




    See More: More info on Oz's iPone




  2. #2
    Horry
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    Re: More info on Oz's iPone

    On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:

    > http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
    >
    > According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G
    > network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people who may
    > roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently
    > dominates.
    >
    > It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
    > interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at
    > what price range.


    Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At USD199,
    it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.

    (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
    Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current
    exchange rate).

    I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
    current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.





  3. #3
    Horry
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    Re: More info on Oz's iPone

    On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry wrote:

    > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
    >
    >> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
    >>
    >> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G
    >> network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people who may
    >> roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently
    >> dominates.
    >>
    >> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
    >> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at
    >> what price range.

    >
    > Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At USD199,
    > it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
    >
    > (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in Australia
    > for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current exchange rate).


    http://www.itwire.com/content/view/18678/1085/

    "If Jobs sticks to his global pricing parity promise, the 8GB iPhone 2.0 will
    sell for around $AU220 in Australia. At that kind of bargain basement
    price for the iPhone 2.0, you'd be lucky to get $AU100 for your old iPhone
    on eBay. Most people would rather keep their iPhone 1.0 as an iPod touch,
    or hand it down to a friend, than sell it for a mere $100."





  4. #4
    Horry
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    Re: More info on Oz's iPone

    On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:

    > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
    >>
    >>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
    >>>
    >>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G
    >>> network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people who
    >>> may roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently
    >>> dominates.
    >>>
    >>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
    >>> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at
    >>> what price range.

    >>
    >>Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At USD199,
    >>it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
    >>
    >>(And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in Australia
    >>for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current exchange rate).
    >>
    >>I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
    >>current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
    >>
    >>

    > Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can only get
    > it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or Vodafone..... and you
    > cannot buy it from the Apple store.


    You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July 11. It
    was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.

    Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian retailers
    stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with a mandatory
    24-month network connection?





  5. #5
    Rod Speed
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    Re: More info on Oz's iPone

    Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
    >
    >> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
    >>>>
    >>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900
    >>>> Mhz 3G network, which will be a blow to many travelling business
    >>>> people who may roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz
    >>>> system currently dominates.
    >>>>
    >>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will
    >>>> be interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone
    >>>> and at what price range.
    >>>
    >>> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At
    >>> USD199, it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
    >>>
    >>> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
    >>> Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current
    >>> exchange rate).
    >>>
    >>> I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
    >>> current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
    >>>
    >>>

    >> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can
    >> only get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or
    >> Vodafone..... and you cannot buy it from the Apple store.

    >
    > You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July
    > 11. It was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
    >
    > Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian
    > retailers stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with
    > a mandatory 24-month network connection?


    Thats what they did with the first one.





  6. #6
    Horry
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    Re: More info on Oz's iPone

    On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:30:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

    > Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <[email protected]>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
    >>>>>
    >>>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz
    >>>>> 3G network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people
    >>>>> who may roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system
    >>>>> currently dominates.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
    >>>>> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and
    >>>>> at what price range.
    >>>>
    >>>> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At
    >>>> USD199, it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
    >>>>
    >>>> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
    >>>> Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current
    >>>> exchange rate).
    >>>>
    >>>> I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
    >>>> current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can only
    >>> get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or Vodafone..... and
    >>> you cannot buy it from the Apple store.

    >>
    >> You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July 11.
    >> It was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
    >>
    >> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian retailers
    >> stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with a mandatory
    >> 24-month network connection?

    >
    > Thats what they did with the first one.


    Well, they tried to... without much success.

    http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/Apple-iPhone-s/21.htm

    Even worst case scenario, it should be possible to buy it on contract then
    pay out the network's early termination fee. Or import one from o/seas or
    a place like the site linked to above (at $199 warranties aren't a huge
    concern -- other than replacement for DOA units).






  7. #7
    Horry
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    Re: More info on Oz's iPone

    On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:41:46 +0900, Horry wrote:

    > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:30:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
    >
    >> Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <[email protected]>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz
    >>>>>> 3G network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people
    >>>>>> who may roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system
    >>>>>> currently dominates.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
    >>>>>> interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and
    >>>>>> at what price range.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At
    >>>>> USD199, it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
    >>>>> Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our current
    >>>>> exchange rate).
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than the
    >>>>> current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can only
    >>>> get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or Vodafone..... and
    >>>> you cannot buy it from the Apple store.
    >>>
    >>> You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July 11.
    >>> It was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
    >>>
    >>> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian
    >>> retailers stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with a
    >>> mandatory 24-month network connection?

    >>
    >> Thats what they did with the first one.

    >
    > Well, they tried to... without much success.
    >
    > http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/Apple-iPhone-s/21.htm
    >
    > Even worst case scenario, it should be possible to buy it on contract then
    > pay out the network's early termination fee. Or import one from o/seas or
    > a place like the site linked to above (at $199 warranties aren't a huge
    > concern -- other than replacement for DOA units).


    Or buy it on a prepaid plan.

    "THOUSANDS of Australians have already paid deposits on Apple's new 3G iPhone- which will also be available on prepay plans.

    "Both Optus and Vodafone today confirmed they would offer the next-gen iPhone on a prepay plan when it goes on sale on July 11."

    http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...31-661,00.html




  8. #8
    Paul Day
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    Re: More info on Oz's iPone

    On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:11:19 Horry may have written:
    > Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian retailers
    > stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with a mandatory
    > 24-month network connection?


    Yes.

    PD

    --
    Paul Day



  9. #9
    Horry
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    Re: More info on Oz's iPone

    On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:44:05 -0500, Paul Day wrote:

    > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:11:19 Horry may have written:
    >> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian retailers
    >> stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled with a mandatory
    >> 24-month network connection?

    >
    > Yes.


    You're wrong.

    Optus and Vodafone have both said it'll be available on prepaid.





  10. #10
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: More info on Oz's iPone

    Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:30:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
    >
    >> Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry <[email protected]>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900
    >>>>>> Mhz 3G network, which will be a blow to many travelling business
    >>>>>> people who may roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100
    >>>>>> Mhz system currently dominates.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It
    >>>>>> will be interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the
    >>>>>> iPhone and at what price range.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At
    >>>>> USD199, it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
    >>>>> Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our
    >>>>> current exchange rate).
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than
    >>>>> the current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can
    >>>> only get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or
    >>>> Vodafone..... and you cannot buy it from the Apple store.
    >>>
    >>> You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July
    >>> 11. It was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
    >>>
    >>> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian
    >>> retailers stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled
    >>> with a mandatory 24-month network connection?

    >>
    >> Thats what they did with the first one.

    >
    > Well, they tried to... without much success.


    Lot of success actually world wide.

    > http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/Apple-iPhone-s/21.htm


    Pity about what happens if you have a warranty problem.

    > Even worst case scenario, it should be possible to buy it
    > on contract then pay out the network's early termination fee.


    Nope, you're ****ed if you want to make a warranty claim too.

    > Or import one from o/seas or a place like the site linked to above (at $199
    > warranties aren't a huge concern -- other than replacement for DOA units).


    I still want a warranty at that price.





  11. #11
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: More info on Oz's iPone

    Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
    > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:41:46 +0900, Horry wrote:
    >
    >> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:30:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
    >>
    >>> Horry <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:26:44 +1000, Oscar wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:00:42 +0900, Horry
    >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new
    >>>>>>> 900 Mhz 3G network, which will be a blow to many travelling
    >>>>>>> business people who may roam outside of the metro areas where
    >>>>>>> the 2100 Mhz system currently dominates.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It
    >>>>>>> will be interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market
    >>>>>>> the iPhone and at what price range.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At
    >>>>>> USD199, it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> (And it'll almost certainly be cheaper than AUD299 outright in
    >>>>>> Australia for the "Australian stock" 8GB model -- given our
    >>>>>> current exchange rate).
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> I could fit the whole family out with 8GB iPhones for less than
    >>>>>> the current cost of a single Nokia N95 8GB.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> Where can you buy it outright ? From what I have read, you can
    >>>>> only get it by going on a 24 month contract with Optus or
    >>>>> Vodafone..... and you cannot buy it from the Apple store.
    >>>>
    >>>> You can't buy it anywhere, on contract or off contract, until July
    >>>> 11. It was only launched a little over 12 hours ago.
    >>>>
    >>>> Are you suggesting that Apple might somehow prevent Australian
    >>>> retailers stocking and selling the 3G iPhone other than bundled
    >>>> with a mandatory 24-month network connection?
    >>>
    >>> Thats what they did with the first one.

    >>
    >> Well, they tried to... without much success.
    >>
    >> http://www.smoothmobiles.com.au/Apple-iPhone-s/21.htm
    >>
    >> Even worst case scenario, it should be possible to buy it on
    >> contract then pay out the network's early termination fee. Or import
    >> one from o/seas or a place like the site linked to above (at $199
    >> warranties aren't a huge concern -- other than replacement for DOA
    >> units).


    > Or buy it on a prepaid plan.


    Only povs, drug runners and children use prepaid.

    > "THOUSANDS of Australians have already paid deposits on Apple's
    > new 3G iPhone- which will also be available on prepay plans.


    > "Both Optus and Vodafone today confirmed they would offer the
    > next-gen iPhone on a prepay plan when it goes on sale on July 11."


    > http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...31-661,00.html






  12. #12
    Snapper
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    Re: More info on Oz's iPone

    Horry wrote...

    > Why not just buy it outright and put your Next G SIM in it? At USD199,
    > it's not worth signing up for a 24 month contract.


    Won't it be locked to a particular network, though? If it won't be then that's
    what I'll do.

    My wife has a 3G SIM card in her Nokia 6233. It works on GSM out here in the
    stix and goes onto Telstra's 3G network when we get closer to Melbourne. I
    wonder what network the iPhone would connect to if her 3G SIM was put in it.
    Would it connect to NextG or would it only connect to 3G when in range?

    ie. what differences are there between 3G and NextG SIM cards?




  13. #13
    Paul Day
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    Re: More info on Oz's iPone

    On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:00:40 Snapper may have written:
    > ie. what differences are there between 3G and NextG SIM cards?


    The logo on the front.

    PD

    --
    Paul Day



  14. #14
    Horry
    Guest

    Re: More info on Oz's iPone

    On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:54 +1000, Snapper wrote:

    > http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index....762455&eid=150
    >
    > According to the article the iPhone won't support Optus' new 900 Mhz 3G
    > network, which will be a blow to many travelling business people who may
    > roam outside of the metro areas where the 2100 Mhz system currently
    > dominates.
    >
    > It said too that it will support Telstra's NextG network. It will be
    > interesting to see if Telstra will eventually market the iPhone and at
    > what price range.
    >
    > Hopefully Telstra will make an announcement on this soon. It may be the
    > replacement that my wife wants when her contract expires. If it does
    > everything that the iTouch or iPod Classic does it will be the perfect
    > replacement phone.


    Here's some more (mis)information to add to what we currently know
    (courtesy of an Optus "leak" to Gizmodo).

    It's must be at least partially inaccurate, because there's no mention of
    prepaid (which Optus has already stated it will be available on). Then
    again, the Optus CEO said the 3G iPhone sold by Optus would provide 3G
    service to 96% of the Australian population by the end of the year... yet
    the 3G iPhone doesn't operate on the 900Mhz frequency, which is what much
    of Optus' rural and regional network will be...

    Anyway:

    http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/06/ex...g_details.html

    "So, if you're an Optus customer, here's what you can expect:

    * The iPhone is only available on a 24 month contract - you can't purchase
    it outright
    * The 8GB model will cost $220, the 16GB $330 * Only the 16GB is available
    in white * Optus won't be selling accessories - they will be sold through
    the Apple store * There will be two plans available:
    a $79 cap with 1GB data and $300 worth of calls; and a $99 cap with 3GB
    of data and $400 worth of calls
    * Both plans include Visual Voicemail * 30c flagfall; 35c per 30 seconds
    talk, 25c SMS messages"






  15. #15
    Snapper
    Guest

    Re: More info on Oz's iPone

    Horry wrote...

    > "So, if you're an Optus customer, here's what you can expect:
    >
    > * The iPhone is only available on a 24 month contract - you can't purchase
    > it outright
    > * There will be two plans available:
    > a $79 cap with 1GB data and $300 worth of calls; and a $99 cap with 3GB
    > of data and $400 worth of calls


    Wow. They really do expect to gouge the technophiles, huh?

    So, does this mean then, that in addition to paying for the cost of the phone,
    say, $299, that you also have to go onto an $80/month plan at a minimum?

    I wonder what telcos in the US will be "offering" their customers?

    Looks like we'll be sticking with what we have for the foreseeable future, if
    indeed, the above turns out to be true.

    I wonder, though, if it's not true, if you pay the $50 pre-ordering deposit if
    the plans that they do eventually release are the above, and they're not to your
    liking, will they refund the $50? I know that it's refunded after you sign up
    when you receive the product. But before that?




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