Bad news for mobile users

In the European Union, they are considering allowing mobile network
operators charging punters for receiving calls.

If this happens, how long before they try it in Oz?

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"Polly the Parrot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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| In the European Union, they are considering allowing mobile network
| operators charging punters for receiving calls.
|
| If this happens, how long before they try it in Oz?

not long, Singapore has had it for years.

Polly the Parrot <[email protected]> wrote:

> In the European Union, they are considering allowing mobile
> network operators charging punters for receiving calls.

That aint up to the EU.

> If this happens, how long before they try it in Oz?

We aint gunna be stupid enough to buy it, you watch.

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:33:52 +1000 "Rod Speed"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > In the European Union, they are considering allowing mobile
> > network operators charging punters for receiving calls.
>
> That aint up to the EU.

There was an article in newspaper when I was there last week, the
"Communications Minister" (new speak) of the EU is considering allowing
it, claims it will cut costs of outgoing calls??????

Polly the Parrot <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>> Polly the Parrot <[email protected]> wrote

>>> In the European Union, they are considering allowing mobile
>>> network operators charging punters for receiving calls.

>> That aint up to the EU.

> There was an article in newspaper when I was there last
> week, the "Communications Minister" (new speak) of the EU

No such animal.

> is considering allowing it,

The EU doesnt get to allow or disallow that.

> claims it will cut costs of outgoing calls??????

Corse it would.

Polly the Parrot wrote...

> In the European Union, they are considering allowing mobile network
> operators charging punters for receiving calls.

Some countries in Europe have had that for landline calls since year dot. Not
surprised that they'd try it on the mobile community.

> If this happens, how long before they try it in Oz?

All they need is for one greedy operator to try it on, then the others will rush
in, en masse, in the name of "competition".

First though, they will need to deal with the issue of unsolicited calls from
advertisers. Start by banning them.

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:00:06 +1000 "Rod Speed"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> >> That aint up to the EU.
>
> > There was an article in newspaper when I was there last
> > week, the "Communications Minister" (new speak) of the EU
>
> No such animal.

Actually Telecoms Commisioner
>
> > is considering allowing it,

Actually have said that they will not oppose.
>
> The EU doesnt get to allow or disallow that.

They do. The EU regulates such matters amongst member companies, and
is also about to whack a upper limit on roaming charges.

Polly the Parrot <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote

>>>> That aint up to the EU.

>>> There was an article in newspaper when I was there last
>>> week, the "Communications Minister" (new speak) of the EU

>> No such animal.

> Actually Telecoms Commisioner

Who is nothing like a Minister and who doesnt get to decide EU policy either.

>>> is considering allowing it,

> Actually have said that they will not oppose.

The EP doesnt get to oppose that either. It gets no say on that.

>> The EU doesnt get to allow or disallow that.

> They do.

They dont.

> The EU regulates such matters amongst member companies,

Wrong. And thats got nothing to do with the vast bulk of
calls that originate and terminate within a single country.

> and is also about to whack a upper limit on roaming charges.

Wrong again.

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:42:27 +1000 "Rod Speed"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > The EU regulates such matters amongst member companies,

Opps typo, should have written "countries".
>
> Wrong. And thats got nothing to do with the vast bulk of
> calls that originate and terminate within a single country.


Roddles wrong again, as usual.

http://tinyurl.com/3nhztz

> >and is also about to whack a upper limit on roaming charges.

>Wrong again.

Roddles wrong again, as usual.

http://tinyurl.com/47hb7u

Do try and keep up!

Polly the Parrot <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>> Polly the Parrot <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote

>>>>>> That aint up to the EU.

>>>>> There was an article in newspaper when I was there last
>>>>> week, the "Communications Minister" (new speak) of the EU

>>>> No such animal.

>>> Actually Telecoms Commisioner

>> Who is nothing like a Minister and who doesnt get to decide EU policy either.

>>>>> is considering allowing it,

>>> Actually have said that they will not oppose.

>> The EP doesnt get to oppose that either. It gets no say on that.

>>>> The EU doesnt get to allow or disallow that.

>>> They do.

>> They dont.

>>> The EU regulates such matters amongst member companies,

> Opps typo, should have written "countries".

>> Wrong. And thats got nothing to do with the vast bulk of
>> calls that originate and terminate within a single country.

> Roddles wrong again, as usual.

Nope.

> http://tinyurl.com/3nhztz

Doesnt say a damned thing about having any control over how
the vast bulk of calls that are within a single country are charged.

>>> and is also about to whack a upper limit on roaming charges.

>> Wrong again.

> Roddles wrong again, as usual.

Nope.

> http://tinyurl.com/47hb7u

Doesnt say anything like you claimed, and its just some **** rag anyway.

And Reding doesnt get to decide that stuff anyway. She's just a commissioner,
not a minister, and she doesnt get to decide stuff like that by herself.

> Do try and keep up!

You couldnt even manage to grasp that the telecoms commissioner doesnt get to set EU policy.

On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:22:41 +1000 "Rod Speed"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > Do try and keep up!
>
> You couldnt even manage to grasp that the telecoms commissioner
> doesnt get to set EU policy.

Usual Roddles bluster when proved wrong.

Yawn.

Polly the Parrot <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote

>>> Do try and keep up!

>> You couldnt even manage to grasp that the telecoms
>> commissioner doesnt get to set EU policy.

> Usual Roddles bluster when proved wrong.

Lying, as always, when its got done like a ****ing dinner, as always.

Will Kemp wrote...

> Nah, they wouldn't dare. They know it would only lose them money.

Well, in the US, the home of the Consumer is King, they have a similar thing. If
you receive a call you don't pay for the call per se, but rather the airtime.
So, both parties are getting slugged. And the phone companies are getting away
with it.

If it was introduced, a few people would whinge about it. But then they'd sigh,
go "oh well, that's life" and continue to enjoy the BOHICA Effect.

Snapper <[email protected]> wrote
> Will Kemp wrote

>> Nah, they wouldn't dare. They know it would only lose them money.

> Well, in the US, the home of the Consumer is King, they have a
> similar thing. If you receive a call you don't pay for the call per
> se, but rather the airtime. So, both parties are getting slugged.
> And the phone companies are getting away with it.

Their system is very different tho. You cant tell from the number itself that its
a mobile you are calling, so they have to do the charging the way they do it.

> If it was introduced, a few people would whinge about it. But then they'd
> sigh, go "oh well, that's life" and continue to enjoy the BOHICA Effect.

Bet they wouldnt wear it here.

And I bet no mobile telco would be stupid enough to try it either.

Horry wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:44:58 +1000, Graeme Willox wrote:
>
>> Sunny wrote:
>>> "Polly the Parrot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>> | In the European Union, they are considering allowing mobile network
>>> | operators charging punters for receiving calls.
>>> |
>>> | If this happens, how long before they try it in Oz?
>>>
>>> not long, Singapore has had it for years.
>>>
>>>
>> We had it here years ago.
>
> On the lower value Flexiplans on the Telstra AMPS network. FP 20, from
> memory.
>
>

I think you're right.