Nokia E71

From the tech specs:-

Quad-band EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 900/2100 HSDPA

Is this phone compatible with 3G on both Tel$tra & Optarse?

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Polly the Parrot wrote:
> From the tech specs:-
>
> Quad-band EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 900/2100 HSDPA
>
> Is this phone compatible with 3G on both Tel$tra & Optarse?
>

Based on those bands, it would have 3G coverage on Optus's network. On
the Telstra network, it would have the same 3G coverage as Three
customers have.

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:43:37 +1000 Graeme Willox
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On
> the Telstra network, it would have the same 3G coverage as Three
> customers have.

Only in cities?

Polly the Parrot wrote:
> From the tech specs:-
>
> Quad-band EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 900/2100 HSDPA
>
> Is this phone compatible with 3G on both Tel$tra & Optarse?
>
Compatible with Optus 3G, Only compatible with Telstra's capital city 3G
that roams to Hutchison. It would work with NextG, but only as a GSM
handset - ie it will only get 2G speeds, and won't get the extended
coverage.

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:01:40 +1000 Doug Jewell <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Quad-band EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 900/2100 HSDPA
> >
> > Is this phone compatible with 3G on both Tel$tra & Optarse?
> >
> Compatible with Optus 3G, Only compatible with Telstra's capital city 3G
> that roams to Hutchison. It would work with NextG, but only as a GSM
> handset - ie it will only get 2G speeds, and won't get the extended
> coverage.

Thanks. I wonder why Nokia spec it like that in Australia?

Polly the Parrot <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:01:40 +1000 Doug Jewell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>> Quad-band EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 900/2100 HSDPA
>>>
>>> Is this phone compatible with 3G on both Tel$tra & Optarse?
>>>
>> Compatible with Optus 3G, Only compatible with Telstra's capital
>> city 3G that roams to Hutchison. It would work with NextG, but only
>> as a GSM handset - ie it will only get 2G speeds, and won't get the
>> extended coverage.
>
> Thanks. I wonder why Nokia spec it like that in Australia?

They have various flavors of their high end handsets.

Polly the Parrot wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:01:40 +1000 Doug Jewell <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Quad-band EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 900/2100 HSDPA
>>>
>>> Is this phone compatible with 3G on both Tel$tra & Optarse?
>>>
>> Compatible with Optus 3G, Only compatible with Telstra's capital city 3G
>> that roams to Hutchison. It would work with NextG, but only as a GSM
>> handset - ie it will only get 2G speeds, and won't get the extended
>> coverage.
>
> Thanks. I wonder why Nokia spec it like that in Australia?
The majority of handsets sold in Australia are subsidised by the
carrier, and Telstra won't subsidise handsets not distributed by them.
So if it's not distributed by Telstra, it will most likely be used on
Voda or Optus, which it is compatible with.
The N95 is a perfect example of this - the one distributed by Telstra
has WCDMA850 but is only 2GB, whereas the one distributed by Brightpoint
lacks WCDMA850 but is 8GB, and lower in price.

Doug Jewell <[email protected]> wrote:
> Polly the Parrot wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:01:40 +1000 Doug Jewell <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>> Quad-band EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 900/2100 HSDPA
>>>>
>>>> Is this phone compatible with 3G on both Tel$tra & Optarse?
>>>>
>>> Compatible with Optus 3G, Only compatible with Telstra's capital
>>> city 3G that roams to Hutchison. It would work with NextG, but only
>>> as a GSM handset - ie it will only get 2G speeds, and won't get the
>>> extended coverage.
>>
>> Thanks. I wonder why Nokia spec it like that in Australia?
> The majority of handsets sold in Australia are subsidised by the
> carrier, and Telstra won't subsidise handsets not distributed by them.
> So if it's not distributed by Telstra, it will most likely be used on
> Voda or Optus, which it is compatible with.
> The N95 is a perfect example of this - the one distributed by Telstra
> has WCDMA850 but is only 2GB, whereas the one distributed by
> Brightpoint lacks WCDMA850 but is 8GB, and lower in price.

The real reason its lower in price is because its a
world product and the one that works on NextG isnt.

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:19:03 +1000, Polly the Parrot
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:01:40 +1000 Doug Jewell <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > Quad-band EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 900/2100 HSDPA
>> >
>> > Is this phone compatible with 3G on both Tel$tra & Optarse?
>> >
>> Compatible with Optus 3G, Only compatible with Telstra's capital city 3G
>> that roams to Hutchison. It would work with NextG, but only as a GSM
>> handset - ie it will only get 2G speeds, and won't get the extended
>> coverage.
>
>Thanks. I wonder why Nokia spec it like that in Australia?

So that You have to buy two phones, one for the Optus network, one for
Telstra (and if you travel overseas, possibly a third one to get
proper 3G coverage). Nice little marketing strategy, and helps to keep
you locked into one Telco.


Bill

> The majority of handsets sold in Australia are subsidised by the carrier,
> and Telstra won't subsidise handsets not distributed by them.

How can they subsidise something they don't sell?

Do they send a cheque to Optus to subside phones that only Optus sell?

Stupid

> So that You have to buy two phones, one for the Optus network, one for
> Telstra (and if you travel overseas, possibly a third one to get
> proper 3G coverage). Nice little marketing strategy, and helps to keep
> you locked into one Telco.

How does it "keep you locked into one telco" if you are buying 2 phones
which work on 2 networks?

Are you all stupid today?
>
>
> Bill

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:43:08 +1000, Polly the Parrot wrote:

> From the tech specs:-
>
> Quad-band EGSM 850/900/1800/1900, WCDMA 900/2100 HSDPA
>
> Is this phone compatible with 3G on both Tel$tra & Optarse?

There are three versions of the E71.

E71-1 can operate on UMTS 2100/900
E71-2 can operate on UMTS 1900/850
E71-3 can operate on UMTS 2100/850

The Optus network predominantly operates at 2100Mhz, but uses the 900Mhz
band in some rural/regional areas.

The Telstra's Next G network operates entirely at 850Mhz.

Unfortunately, the E71-3 is just about impossible to get in Australia
(and for that matter, the ROW). Nokia isn't even able to get an estimate
of when the E71-3 will be available (unless something has changed within
the past couple of weeks).

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Horry <[email protected]>
wrote:

> There are three versions of the E71.
>
> E71-1 can operate on UMTS 2100/900
> E71-2 can operate on UMTS 1900/850
> E71-3 can operate on UMTS 2100/850


And none of them work on T-Mobile in U$A who uses UMTS 1700, the idiots.

"bill_h" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:35:47 +1000, Polly the Parrot
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Horry <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> There are three versions of the E71.
>>>
>>> E71-1 can operate on UMTS 2100/900
>>> E71-2 can operate on UMTS 1900/850
>>> E71-3 can operate on UMTS 2100/850
>>
>>
>>And none of them work on T-Mobile in U$A who uses UMTS 1700, the idiots.
>
> Again, nicel little marketing strategy to encourage people to have a
> drawer full of mobiles (presuming, of course, you might need to
> operate in different markets or change providers).

Nothing at all to do with 'marketing strategy' and lots to do with spectrum
availability.

--
Kwyj.

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 08:56:16 GMT, "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> So that You have to buy two phones, one for the Optus network, one for
>> Telstra (and if you travel overseas, possibly a third one to get
>> proper 3G coverage). Nice little marketing strategy, and helps to keep
>> you locked into one Telco.
>
>How does it "keep you locked into one telco" if you are buying 2 phones
>which work on 2 networks?
>
>Are you all stupid today?
>>
>>
>> Bill
>

I'll type slowly so that you can understand this... Locked probably
wasn't the best word to use, but I presumed you had the requisite
intelligence to understand the concept I was getting at. The
marketing practice of limiting 3G frequencies on phones means if I
have a 3G NextG phone and I want to move to Optus and use their 3G,
I'll need to buy another phone. The implied deterrent is cost (having
to buy a new phone if I want to swap telcos), therefore 'locking' me
into that telco I'm with. As I've said elsewhere, I'd be happy to pay
a bit more and have one phone that I can use universally.

Surely you're not that silly to not understand the above are you? Or
just having a troll?

Have a nice life.