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  1. #1
    GT3 Dude
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    Totally Whack!!!!!




    "Rod Out back" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Folks,
    >
    > There are few people here with Nokia N95's. I wondered what the verdict
    > on them
    > was?
    >
    > I'm looking at buying one on the NextG network (no alternative carrier
    > here).
    >
    > Any info appreciated.
    >
    >
    > ----------
    >
    > Rod - Out back






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  2. #2
    Rod Speed
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    Re: Verdict on the Nokia N95?

    Rod Out back <[email protected]> wrote

    > Folks,


    Folky,

    > There are few people here with Nokia N95's.
    > I wondered what the verdict on them was?


    No complaints at all except about the price of the damned thing.

    You can buy a laptop for less.

    > I'm looking at buying one on the NextG network (no alternative carrier here).


    > Any info appreciated.






  3. #3
    brian w edginton
    Guest

    Re: Verdict on the Nokia N95?

    On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:20:06 GMT, "GT3 Dude" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Totally Whack!!!!!



    What's that mean....in English?

    And, how does it relate to the query???

    ------------------------------

    If you want to stand out in the crowd...
    check the alleys for escape routes, first



  4. #4
    Snapper
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    Re: Verdict on the Nokia N95?

    Rod Out back wrote...

    > There are few people here with Nokia N95's. I wondered what the verdict on them
    > was?


    Missus has the 8gig model with Optus. She's happy as larry with it. Excellent
    phone.

    If you read the PC User magazine it had a review of "smartphones" in the Oct 08
    issue. It poo-poo'ed the N95 as being too expensive, too bulky and that it
    doesn't do 3G.

    So, when they write reviews that can't even get the basics correct, I'd have to
    say that they're full of it.

    The N95 does everything that iPhones and Blackberrys do, and more. And they
    don't necessarily have to be expensive if you can pick one up off Ebay or
    whatever.

    > I'm looking at buying one on the NextG network (no alternative carrier here).


    The NextG one isn't the 8 gig model, but does take 8 gig memory cards. So that
    shouldn't be a problem.

    I can't comment on how they perform as I've only seen the missus' Optus one in
    action. But I assume that it'd be as good.

    Just don't get sucked into signing up for the Assisted GPS service. You can
    download the maps and install them free of charge from the Nokia website and you
    can use it as a normal GPS without incurring data charges if you configure it
    that way.

    As a GPS it's slow to aquire the satellites and it is a bit hard to read the
    screen outdoors and in sunny conditions. But it works fine. And it has the
    latest Aussie maps for free unlike my car navigator GPS which I have to pay
    around $300 to update if I want to (Mio).



  5. #5
    Snapper
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    Re: Verdict on the Nokia N95?

    Kwyjibo wrote...

    >
    > "Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    > > Just don't get sucked into signing up for the Assisted GPS service.

    >
    > You don't 'sign up' for it, as far as I'm aware. It's just a setting on the
    > phone. Enabling it just means you incur data charges whenever you use the
    > GPS.


    Sorry. There's a subscription service that Telstra at least, offers NextG
    customers that can enable voice actived directions, I think it is. That's what I
    meant.

    As for AGPS it will use up data and if you don't have a data pack it can become
    quite expensive.

    > > As a GPS it's slow to aquire the satellites

    >
    > That's where the assisted GPS feature is supposed to help........


    Yes, that's correct. But if it's turned off, then you don't get slugged data
    charges merely to allow the N95 to quickly aquire its location.

    Anyway, it's a gimmick. The screen's difficult to read outdoors, where you'll be
    using it and for use as a proper navigator you have to pay a significant amount
    to get it fully functional.

    Cheaper to buy a dedicated navigator such as one of the low end Mios.




  6. #6
    ^Tems^
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    Re: Verdict on the Nokia N95?

    Snapper wrote:
    > Rod Out back wrote...
    >
    >> There are few people here with Nokia N95's. I wondered what the verdict on them
    >> was?

    >
    > Missus has the 8gig model with Optus. She's happy as larry with it. Excellent
    > phone.
    >
    > If you read the PC User magazine it had a review of "smartphones" in the Oct 08
    > issue. It poo-poo'ed the N95 as being too expensive, too bulky and that it
    > doesn't do 3G.
    >
    > So, when they write reviews that can't even get the basics correct, I'd have to
    > say that they're full of it.
    >
    > The N95 does everything that iPhones and Blackberrys do, and more. And they
    > don't necessarily have to be expensive if you can pick one up off Ebay or
    > whatever.
    >
    >> I'm looking at buying one on the NextG network (no alternative carrier here).

    >
    > The NextG one isn't the 8 gig model, but does take 8 gig memory cards. So that
    > shouldn't be a problem.
    >
    > I can't comment on how they perform as I've only seen the missus' Optus one in
    > action. But I assume that it'd be as good.
    >
    > Just don't get sucked into signing up for the Assisted GPS service. You can
    > download the maps and install them free of charge from the Nokia website and you
    > can use it as a normal GPS without incurring data charges if you configure it
    > that way.
    >
    > As a GPS it's slow to aquire the satellites and it is a bit hard to read the
    > screen outdoors and in sunny conditions. But it works fine. And it has the
    > latest Aussie maps for free unlike my car navigator GPS which I have to pay
    > around $300 to update if I want to (Mio).


    More than happy with mine (8gb).
    Use the camera alot and happy with the quality of the video. Probably
    got 10 times as much video of the family now than before I got the phone.

    The wifi is good and now a lot of sites I use (facebook & flickr) have a
    mobile version it is very quick with them.

    I bought a hard clear case off ebay, makes it a bit move chunky but
    screen is still in perfect condition.

    One thing I have been caught out with a couple of times is calls don't
    hang up when you slide it shut. I always check it has ended before
    calling that annoying customer a dickhead.

    As mentioned the satellite takes a bit of time to kick in but 90% works
    uninterupted. I got 6 months free trial with the voice/navigation
    thing but I doubt I would pay $120 a year for it.

    I'd recommend it to anyone.

    Big LN has links to a couple of sites and different free apps on this
    link (including free satellite navigation but I haven't tried that)
    <http://groups.google.com.au/group/aus.tv/browse_thread/thread/5d06d3973dec2292/df466c1ae79b0466?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=big+ln%2C+n95#df466c1ae79b0466>



  7. #7
    Kwyjibo
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    Re: Verdict on the Nokia N95?


    "Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    > Just don't get sucked into signing up for the Assisted GPS service.


    You don't 'sign up' for it, as far as I'm aware. It's just a setting on the
    phone. Enabling it just means you incur data charges whenever you use the
    GPS.

    <snip>
    >
    > As a GPS it's slow to aquire the satellites


    That's where the assisted GPS feature is supposed to help........

    --
    Kwyj.





  8. #8
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Verdict on the Nokia N95?

    Snapper <[email protected]> wrote:
    > Kwyjibo wrote...
    >
    >>
    >> "Snapper" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >>> Just don't get sucked into signing up for the Assisted GPS service.

    >>
    >> You don't 'sign up' for it, as far as I'm aware. It's just a setting
    >> on the phone. Enabling it just means you incur data charges whenever
    >> you use the GPS.

    >
    > Sorry. There's a subscription service that Telstra at least, offers
    > NextG customers that can enable voice actived directions, I think it
    > is. That's what I meant.
    >
    > As for AGPS it will use up data and if you don't have a data pack it
    > can become quite expensive.
    >
    >>> As a GPS it's slow to aquire the satellites

    >>
    >> That's where the assisted GPS feature is supposed to help........

    >
    > Yes, that's correct. But if it's turned off, then you don't get
    > slugged data charges merely to allow the N95 to quickly aquire its
    > location.
    >
    > Anyway, it's a gimmick. The screen's difficult to read outdoors,
    > where you'll be using it and for use as a proper navigator you have
    > to pay a significant amount to get it fully functional.
    >
    > Cheaper to buy a dedicated navigator such as one of the low end Mios.


    But not as convenient as having everything in the one box
    if you dont need navigation outside the car very often.





  9. #9
    mrripcurl
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    Re: Verdict on the Nokia N95?

    I am possibly in the minority here but I find the phone poorly
    designed, over-priced, and almost a brick in comparison to many others
    around. Yes it does a lot, but it does nothing well. The camera may be
    rated as 5mp but operates like a 2, the sound system is poor, the web
    interface is poor, etc. Most of the things that you'll want you'll
    need to buy or obtain 3rd party s/w for, eg music player, organiser
    (don't ever rely on the alarm system as it won't go off every now and
    again), web browser, message management, mapping, even the calculator
    is lousy and a decent one is required. The battery will only last half
    a day depending on what you use the phone for, and it loses touch with
    3G constantly (and no that is not my telco's fault as I can put two
    phones side by side with Voda chips and the Nok will keep losing touch
    with the world whilst an SE will stay in touch, and even if I swap
    SIMs the results are the same), and it needs rebooting at regularly
    intervals as it will totally lose the network twice a week. The screen
    is a disgrace for a high-end phone. The slider is problematic and
    works itself loose after a while. You need to update the software
    every month which is cumbersome and if you do it properly it over-
    writes all your 3rd party s/w so you need to reload all that (and that
    presumes that the Updater actually works properly). There are people
    out there who like but I have to wonder about how much they researched
    alternate phones. It probably depends on what you need the phone for
    as at the moment there is little that does all the N95 does, so if you
    are willing to trade off poor performance against having everything in
    one unit then perhaps the N95 is the one for you. On top of that, if
    you have a problem needing repairs, Nokia reportedly take forever to
    repair and won't admit to hardware faults even in machines that visit
    their repair centres regularly. You have been warned.



  10. #10
    Rod Speed
    Guest

    Re: Verdict on the Nokia N95?

    mrripcurl <[email protected]> wrote

    > I am possibly in the minority here but I find the phone poorly designed,


    Have fun listing any that are better designed.

    > over-priced,


    I already said that.

    > and almost a brick in comparison to many others around.


    You wouldnt know what a real brick was if was dropped on your head.

    > Yes it does a lot, but it does nothing well.


    Bare faced pig ignorant lie. It does the cameras very well.

    It does voip very well indeed.

    It does the PDA stuff very well.

    > The camera may be rated as 5mp but operates like a 2,


    Bare faced pig ignorant lie.

    > the sound system is poor,


    Like hell it is.

    > the web interface is poor, etc.


    Like hell it is.

    > Most of the things that you'll want you'll need to buy or obtain 3rd party s/w for,


    Bare faced pig ignorant lie.

    > eg music player, organiser (don't ever rely on the alarm system as it
    > won't go off every now and again), web browser, message management,
    > mapping, even the calculator is lousy and a decent one is required.


    Bare faced pig ignorant lie.

    > The battery will only last half a day depending on what you use the phone for,


    Bare faced pig ignorant lie.

    > and it loses touch with 3G constantly


    Bare faced pig ignorant lie.

    > (and no that is not my telco's fault as I can put two phones
    > side by side with Voda chips and the Nok will keep losing touch
    > with the world whilst an SE will stay in touch, and even if I swap
    > SIMs the results are the same), and it needs rebooting at regularly
    > intervals as it will totally lose the network twice a week.


    Bare faced pig ignorant lie.

    > The screen is a disgrace for a high-end phone.


    Bare faced pig ignorant lie.

    > The slider is problematic and works itself loose after a while.


    Bare faced pig ignorant lie.

    > You need to update the software every month


    Bare faced pig ignorant lie.

    > which is cumbersome and if you do it properly it over-writes
    > all your 3rd party s/w so you need to reload all that


    Bare faced pig ignorant lie.

    > (and that presumes that the Updater actually works properly).


    Bare faced pig ignorant lie.

    > There are people out there who like but I have to wonder
    > about how much they researched alternate phones.


    Have fun listing those that are any better.

    > It probably depends on what you need the phone for


    You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist ****wits ?

    > as at the moment there is little that does all the N95 does,


    Funny that.

    > so if you are willing to trade off poor performance against having
    > everything in one unit then perhaps the N95 is the one for you.


    Bare faced pig ignorant lie.

    > On top of that, if you have a problem needing repairs, Nokia
    > reportedly take forever to repair and won't admit to hardware
    > faults even in machines that visit their repair centres regularly.


    > You have been warned.


    You have been lied to, actually.





  11. #11
    ^Tems^
    Guest

    Re: Verdict on the Nokia N95?

    Rod Speed wrote:
    > mrripcurl <[email protected]> wrote
    >
    >> I am possibly in the minority here but I find the phone poorly designed,

    >
    > Have fun listing any that are better designed.
    >
    >> over-priced,

    >
    > I already said that.
    >
    >> and almost a brick in comparison to many others around.

    >
    > You wouldnt know what a real brick was if was dropped on your head.
    >
    >> Yes it does a lot, but it does nothing well.

    >
    > Bare faced pig ignorant lie. It does the cameras very well.
    >
    > It does voip very well indeed.
    >
    > It does the PDA stuff very well.
    >
    >> The camera may be rated as 5mp but operates like a 2,

    >
    > Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >
    >> the sound system is poor,

    >
    > Like hell it is.
    >
    >> the web interface is poor, etc.

    >
    > Like hell it is.
    >
    >> Most of the things that you'll want you'll need to buy or obtain 3rd party s/w for,

    >
    > Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >
    >> eg music player, organiser (don't ever rely on the alarm system as it
    >> won't go off every now and again), web browser, message management,
    >> mapping, even the calculator is lousy and a decent one is required.

    >
    > Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >
    >> The battery will only last half a day depending on what you use the phone for,

    >
    > Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >
    >> and it loses touch with 3G constantly

    >
    > Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >
    >> (and no that is not my telco's fault as I can put two phones
    >> side by side with Voda chips and the Nok will keep losing touch
    >> with the world whilst an SE will stay in touch, and even if I swap
    >> SIMs the results are the same), and it needs rebooting at regularly
    >> intervals as it will totally lose the network twice a week.

    >
    > Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >
    >> The screen is a disgrace for a high-end phone.

    >
    > Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >
    >> The slider is problematic and works itself loose after a while.

    >
    > Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >
    >> You need to update the software every month

    >
    > Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >
    >> which is cumbersome and if you do it properly it over-writes
    >> all your 3rd party s/w so you need to reload all that

    >
    > Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >
    >> (and that presumes that the Updater actually works properly).

    >
    > Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >
    >> There are people out there who like but I have to wonder
    >> about how much they researched alternate phones.

    >
    > Have fun listing those that are any better.
    >
    >> It probably depends on what you need the phone for

    >
    > You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist ****wits ?
    >
    >> as at the moment there is little that does all the N95 does,

    >
    > Funny that.
    >
    >> so if you are willing to trade off poor performance against having
    >> everything in one unit then perhaps the N95 is the one for you.

    >
    > Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >
    >> On top of that, if you have a problem needing repairs, Nokia
    >> reportedly take forever to repair and won't admit to hardware
    >> faults even in machines that visit their repair centres regularly.

    >
    >> You have been warned.

    >
    > You have been lied to, actually.
    >
    >


    Agreed.

    Maybe he has the original not the 8gb as I am yet to have any of these
    problems.




  12. #12
    ^Tems^
    Guest

    Re: Verdict on the Nokia N95?

    mrripcurl wrote:
    > On Nov 1, 11:21 am, ^Tems^ <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> Rod Speed wrote:
    >>> mrripcurl <[email protected]> wrote
    >>>> I am possibly in the minority here but I find the phone poorly designed,
    >>> Have fun listing any that are better designed.
    >>>> over-priced,
    >>> I already said that.
    >>>> and almost a brick in comparison to many others around.
    >>> You wouldnt know what a real brick was if was dropped on your head.
    >>>> Yes it does a lot, but it does nothing well.
    >>> Bare faced pig ignorant lie. It does the cameras very well.
    >>> It does voip very well indeed.
    >>> It does the PDA stuff very well.
    >>>> The camera may be rated as 5mp but operates like a 2,
    >>> Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >>>> the sound system is poor,
    >>> Like hell it is.
    >>>> the web interface is poor, etc.
    >>> Like hell it is.
    >>>> Most of the things that you'll want you'll need to buy or obtain 3rd party s/w for,
    >>> Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >>>> eg music player, organiser (don't ever rely on the alarm system as it
    >>>> won't go off every now and again), web browser, message management,
    >>>> mapping, even the calculator is lousy and a decent one is required.
    >>> Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >>>> The battery will only last half a day depending on what you use the phone for,
    >>> Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >>>> and it loses touch with 3G constantly
    >>> Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >>>> (and no that is not my telco's fault as I can put two phones
    >>>> side by side with Voda chips and the Nok will keep losing touch
    >>>> with the world whilst an SE will stay in touch, and even if I swap
    >>>> SIMs the results are the same), and it needs rebooting at regularly
    >>>> intervals as it will totally lose the network twice a week.
    >>> Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >>>> The screen is a disgrace for a high-end phone.
    >>> Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >>>> The slider is problematic and works itself loose after a while.
    >>> Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >>>> You need to update the software every month
    >>> Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >>>> which is cumbersome and if you do it properly it over-writes
    >>>> all your 3rd party s/w so you need to reload all that
    >>> Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >>>> (and that presumes that the Updater actually works properly).
    >>> Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >>>> There are people out there who like but I have to wonder
    >>>> about how much they researched alternate phones.
    >>> Have fun listing those that are any better.
    >>>> It probably depends on what you need the phone for
    >>> You quite sure you aint one of those rocket scientist ****wits ?
    >>>> as at the moment there is little that does all the N95 does,
    >>> Funny that.
    >>>> so if you are willing to trade off poor performance against having
    >>>> everything in one unit then perhaps the N95 is the one for you.
    >>> Bare faced pig ignorant lie.
    >>>> On top of that, if you have a problem needing repairs, Nokia
    >>>> reportedly take forever to repair and won't admit to hardware
    >>>> faults even in machines that visit their repair centres regularly.
    >>>> You have been warned.
    >>> You have been lied to, actually.

    >> Agreed.
    >>
    >> Maybe he has the original not the 8gb as I am yet to have any of these
    >> problems.

    >
    > Yes I have the original, but despite my problems one of my business
    > associates invested in an 8gb (silly him, he thought that maybe Nok
    > had learnt from their mistakes and might have got around to fixing
    > them) and experienced the same problems - in fact his is in the shop
    > now for the sixth time in as many months (give or take a visit). Some
    > of the problems may depend on how much you use the phone - I would
    > consider myself an average user (about $400-500 worth of calls/data
    > per month which fit nicely under my cap) but my mate runs his bill
    > around two grand a month and really needs a reliable phone.


    As Mr Speed would say "Pig ignorant lie" If this man is making
    enough money to be spending $2k a month on calls he wouldn't have the
    time to run back to the shop once a month, he would either take legal
    action or just buy another.




    The fact
    > that your phone is lucky enough not to have problems yet does not mean
    > that problems don't exist and any search of the net will find
    > literally thousands of complaints about the N95 -


    Links to this search?


    I believe that Nok


    Is it really hard to type an I and an A?

    > Aus have it listed as their most complained about model, though they
    > probably won't admit that in public.
    >


    Who told you that? Mr 2k a month?

    > PS: I see the standard of debate hasn't changed over the last decade
    > or so in this NG - no wonder most people have graduated to Whirlpool!


    And I see people think if they post crap like yours to google groups it
    will rate high in google search when people search for a certain company.



    I also notice you fail to answer Rod's post asking to list a better phone.



  13. #13
    Snapper
    Guest

    Re: Verdict on the Nokia N95?

    ^Tems^ wrote...

    > I also notice you fail to answer Rod's post asking to list a better phone.


    My wife has had no problems with hers, other than it locking up once or twice
    when overseas recently and some reception issues with Optus 3G. The phone itself
    is a great bit of gear.

    I'd probably have one myself if it wasn't so expensive on the NextG plans or if
    it had better Outlook connectivity.

    While it can sync to Outlook, when entering in data to the phone itself it won't
    do repeating or recurring the events the way that I like it to.

    eg. repeat an event every 10 days. I can enter such an event into Outlook and
    they will appear in the N95's calendar but you can't enter in the event into the
    phone. It doesn't offer that repeating pattern.

    No biggy. But I entered my roster into her phone so she can look up what I'm
    doing whenever she needs to.

    It's also a tad bulky for my taste. I got the V9 because it does all the crap
    that I need it to do re calendar, Outlook sync, etc. And that as a thin flip
    phone it slips easily into any pocket and isn't cumbersome or bulky. Plus it's
    heaps cheaper and works on NextG.

    Maybe the next generation N9x will do things more to my liking. We'll see.




  14. #14
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Verdict on the Nokia N95?


    "Rod Out back" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Folks,
    >
    > There are few people here with Nokia N95's. I wondered what the verdict
    > on them
    > was?


    Late reply - but its a great phone. Wife has one.

    >
    > I'm looking at buying one on the NextG network (no alternative carrier
    > here).
    >
    > Any info appreciated.
    >
    >
    > ----------
    >
    > Rod - Out back






  15. #15
    Michael
    Guest

    Re: Verdict on the Nokia N95?

    > 3G constantly (and no that is not my telco's fault as I can put two
    > phones side by side with Voda chips and the Nok will keep losing touch
    > with the world whilst an SE will stay in touch, and even if I swap


    Then your phone is faulty, so you need to fix it.

    > SIMs the results are the same), and it needs rebooting at regularly
    > intervals as it will totally lose the network twice a week. The screen


    If it loses the network either your phone is faulty or your nextwork is crap






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