Airline Security

Originally Posted by spum

I say we just go back to what security was like BEFORE 9/11.

So that we can have 9/11 all over again?

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Originally Posted by Bourn Identity

So that we can have 9/11 all over again?

Security at this very moment will not prevent another 9/11.

Originally Posted by Bourn Identity

So that we can have 9/11 all over again?

As Abom said, there is nothing to prevent 9/11 to happen again. If someone were so inclined, they would be able to take flight lessons at a school of their choice. If this person were part of a terrorist organization, they could get 10 or 15 people on the same plane, take that plane over, and use it for their own devices. There really isn't anything that CAN stop someone from doing this unless we just stop commercial flights altogether. As I said earlier, it makes much more sense to respond to terrorism the same way that other countries had in the past because by doing what we've done, we're only proving that terrorism works.

Originally Posted by spum

As Abom said, there is nothing to prevent 9/11 to happen again. If someone were so inclined, they would be able to take flight lessons at a school of their choice. If this person were part of a terrorist organization, they could get 10 or 15 people on the same plane, take that plane over, and use it for their own devices. There really isn't anything that CAN stop someone from doing this unless we just stop commercial flights altogether. As I said earlier, it makes much more sense to respond to terrorism the same way that other countries had in the past because by doing what we've done, we're only proving that terrorism works.

Exactly. The western world (USA and Canada included) can learn a lot from the Israelis. Their security measures are the best in the world, for the simple fact that they HAVE to be. They are a nation situated amongst enemies on all sides who hate them. For this reason, El Al is, and will continue to be, the safest airline to fly. The combination of screening measures and on-board security is the best in the world, and we could learn from them.

The problem is, I don't think the airlines are willing to dip into their million dollar profits in order to make their flights more secure. Sad as it is, they probably have factored in a certain number of security breaches and how much it'll cost them in lawsuits and insurance claims, and it's probably still less money than proper security would cost.

into there million dollar profits? Then why is the government bailing out the airline companies every other year. The problem isn't wanting to not spend profits. The problem is the airline companies don't even know how to run a profitable business.

Originally Posted by soonerdude

into there million dollar profits? Then why is the government bailing out the airline companies every other year. The problem isn't wanting to not spend profits. The problem is the airline companies don't even know how to run a profitable business.

I had some thoughts about this a while ago. I've flown quite a bit since 9/11, from 3 months afterwards, 6 months aftewards, 1 year afterwards, etc.

I've seen lots of big airports, with lots of planes. I've spent many "overnighters" in airports waiting on layovers for the next connecting plane.

I can tell you, I have NEVER seen a United or American airlines flight NOT full to the very last seat.

All this "no one flies anymore, air travel is taking a huge hit" is a gigantic sham if you ask me. I have seen first hand how "unbusy " the airlines were 3 months after 9/11, and I saw no decrease what-so-ever in passenger load.

The CEO of American Airlines makes $650,000 USD. In 2004, American Airlines did this:

"Carty’s resignation, along with inconsequential contract sweeteners offered this week, such as an eight-month reduction in the six-year term of the concessions agreement, were meant as sops to help the union bureaucrats keep the angry workforce in line, sealing the deal to reduce the company’s labor costs by $1.8 billion annually."


$1.8 BILLION dollars and they still needed be bailed out by the government ? I don't think so. I think there's some profeit hiding going on behind the scenes.

$1.8 BILLION dollars and they still needed be bailed out by the government ? I don't think so. I think there's some profeit hiding going on behind the scenes.

i agree completely

I just thought of something interesting. With all of these new regulations for liquids because of the gel found in the drinks...what happens to girls that are wearing the water-bras? Do they have to be strip searched? Can someone hire me for that job?

what about implants they are filled with liquid. If we are getting ridiculous women with breast implants can't fly unless they remove the implants.