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    Yellow-Snow
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    Anyways.. for my question...... I have a Nokia 6010 phone. When my Sony Ericsson W800 comes in can I use my sim card from my nokia 6010 in my SE 800? The SE 800 is unlocked. Are all sim cards compatible? Or do i take the phone to cingular and have it activated? Can you have 2 phones activated at one time? or do they disable the other sim card when they activate my new one? Can you clone sim cards? to have 2 phones under one line?


    I saw the Sony Ericsson W800 and decided to get it. Sure its 500$ but add the price of your cell phone + ipod + walkman + Camera + Video. If it last for 3-4 years then its worth it imo. I also got the ipod cases for my cell phone ( the rubber sleeves ) to help it last longer..

    http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso...-review-47.php

    Anyways.. PLEASE HELP!


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    I'm going to numebr this to make it a little easier....

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow-Snow
    Anyways.. for my question...... I have a Nokia 6010 phone.

    1) When my Sony Ericsson W800 comes in can I use my sim card from my nokia 6010 in my SE 800? The SE 800 is unlocked.

    2) Are all sim cards compatible?

    3) Or do i take the phone to cingular and have it activated?

    4) Can you have 2 phones activated at one time?

    5) or do they disable the other sim card when they activate my new one?

    6) Can you clone sim cards?

    7) to have 2 phones under one line?
    1) Yes, just take the sim out of your nokia and place it in your new SE. Looking at the phones, however, you will lose signal strength for almost all of Cingular's network, since the SE W800 is 900/1800/1900, but your nokia is 850/1900. Cingular is converting all 1900Mhz towers (AT&T) to 850Mhz. Therefore if your phone can't connect to 850, you have crappy reception and will be considered roaming most of the time.

    2) For the most part, all SIMs are compatable

    3) No need for activation, the SIM contains all the account info needed to get the phone to connect to the network

    4) No, activation with GSM phones is not done. The SIM asks the tower to connect, and it replies based on an account lookup/roaming agreement. You're probably thinking of the older phones which used the IMEI number, which had to be "activated" by the carrier, which would allow your phone to connect to the tower. This is NOT how Cingular does it (anymore anyway).

    5) Again, you keep the same sim card, your just moving it from one phone to the other. They won't deactivate a SIM unless you cancel service or stop paying your bill (it's not really "deactivated", but the tower will not let the phone connect)

    6) Yes, it's been done. Cingular does random sweeps for this and there's not really any good reason to do this.

    7) Two phones cannot share the line. Assuming you cloned a SIM and had the phones connected to seperate towers, they may allow access, but again cingular audits will probably find it and disallow both sims from accessing the towers due to fraud. Plus it wouldn't know who to call for incoming, etc.

    I suggest browisng around on the internet for GSM and SIM card info if you're still curious as to how the whole system works. Howardforums.com has had a few good threads on the topic in the past, too (you'll probably have to search for them, I forgot which forum they were in).



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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow-Snow
    Anyways.. for my question...... I have a Nokia 6010 phone. When my Sony Ericsson W800 comes in can I use my sim card from my nokia 6010 in my SE 800? The SE 800 is unlocked. Are all sim cards compatible? Or do i take the phone to cingular and have it activated? Can you have 2 phones activated at one time? or do they disable the other sim card when they activate my new one? Can you clone sim cards? to have 2 phones under one line?


    I saw the Sony Ericsson W800 and decided to get it. Sure its 500$ but add the price of your cell phone + ipod + walkman + Camera + Video. If it last for 3-4 years then its worth it imo. I also got the ipod cases for my cell phone ( the rubber sleeves ) to help it last longer..

    http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso...-review-47.php

    Anyways.. PLEASE HELP!
    yes mate if your w800 is unlocked this will accept any simcard
    regards



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    Yellow-Snow
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    Wow amazing! I totally understand now! Thanks man! I already did a lot of seaching before all of this and still didnt know the correct answer. As for reception? I have pre-payed so i'm going to test it out. I think in my area 1900 is pretty strong. I dont care about if i leave the city. I knew this when I got it. I'm willing to sack a little reception for the phone tho. AS for rooming? Cingular has nation wide so it dosent really matter if im using everyone's towers BUT cingulars right? anywho.. THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE ANSWERS MAN!



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    BrianSkibinski
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow-Snow
    AS for rooming? Cingular has nation wide so it dosent really matter if im using everyone's towers BUT cingulars right?
    True, but the point is that reception may get sketchy. Cingular is in the process of converting 1900 towers over to 850, so while you may have reception now you might not in the next few weeks. I think they said early 06 was the completion date. Just something to be aware of.

    As for roaming, as long as cingular keeps roaming agreements with t-mobile you can still roam off t-mobile 1900 towers, but again the only 'sure' way is to stick with a phone that does 850. But hey, to each his own.

    BTW: I love my SX66 and it does almost everything that one does (except EDGE). Sure it's a little bigger but it's been pretty decent. Once again though, I can't decide for you. Try out your phone, just make sure you can return it if it turns out you do have problems.



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    Well since I have no contract I can test out cingular. If i switched to t-mobile will i get better reception? I mean.. eather way im still using the same towers right?


    Er yea i dont really want a pda style phone tho.. Small and compact is what I like.

    Next thing they need to add to phones is GPS! so i can find the [email protected] girls house!

    I can't wait to get it.. I'm going to set my computer up to record www.alternativeaddiction.com radio station for a couple of hours.. and automaticlly send it to my phone so when I wake up it will be on there.. That why if nothing is on the radio I can switch to that radio..
    Last edited by Yellow-Snow; 09-21-2005 at 10:57 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow-Snow
    Well since I have no contract I can test out cingular. If i switched to t-mobile will i get better reception? I mean.. eather way im still using the same towers right?
    As long as cingular and t-mobile keep their roaming agreements (which honestly hasn't been a problem so far) you should be fine. Now if they suddently break those agreements, that means t-mobile doesn't allow your phone on their 1900Mhz towers and your phone can't find Cingular's 850Mhz, so you'd be SOL. But in all honesty, I don't see it getting that bitter between them that they'd do it (roaming agreements are good for all sides).



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    Yellow-Snow
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    wow BrianSkibinski your the man.. Thanks for the help


    Is it me or when you see someone talking on a blackberry or something its so funny b/c the thing is soooo huge! And the little ear peices make you look... yea.. and the dual ear peices really piss me off b/c it always looks like they are talking to you but they are talking to their cord.. anyways.. thats why i dony really like pda style phones
    Last edited by Yellow-Snow; 09-22-2005 at 06:16 AM.



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