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    I have had the Motorola Razr for Cingular for alittle over 4 months and i felt like trying something new, so i went out and got a new Samsung. The phone is great i really like both phones, I just had a quick question on signal strength.

    For some reason i get better signal strength with the razr in certain spots, lets say my room. And then when i put the SIM card in the Samsung there is barely any signal. What gives? My brother has a Samsung, not the same one, and he gets just as good signal compared to the razr. Is my phone defected? I would really like the 4 bars of signal instead of the 1 to none.


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    Anyone have an idea?
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    JD, one thing to consider is that RF signal is never measure by the signal bars on your phone.....

    Are you still able to call out from the Samsung?

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    Its pretty much with a different phone it says i have better signal and the call is being able to be made. And now i barely have any signal and now others can not hear me or i cant make the call at all.
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    Is the Samsung from Cingular? If not, it may not have the 850 band, and may be using the 1900 which is very weak for them. In New York, Cingular uses T-Mobile's 1900 band.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wwEchoComm.net
    Is the Samsung from Cingular? If not, it may not have the 850 band, and may be using the 1900 which is very weak for them. In New York, Cingular uses T-Mobile's 1900 band.
    You are correct, i was going to bring this up, if it's the Samsung d500 you are talking about, that's a tri-band phone and only uses the 900, 1800, 1900 mHz band, JD that's your problem right there...nice going Echo..

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    well what does cingular use? And what is the razr able to pick up?



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    Cingular uses the 850 band. The razr is quad band 850/900/1800/1900.



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    oh man.... now i understand. so buying this phone was a waste...

    Any way i can change or find 850 band?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDXray
    oh man.... now i understand. so buying this phone was a waste...

    Any way i can change or find 850 band?

    No because your phone is not 850 mHz capable..

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    wait a minute, you guys have it all wrong...
    Cingular runs on a dual band system, 850 and 1900, which is what is provided here in the U.S.. it automatically switches between the two depending on interference caused by tress, walls, roofs and the like. 850 is for inside, and 1900 is for outside. the other two bands are only used abroad, asia, europe and the like. A Quad band phone like the Razr means it can be used anywhere in the world, if you take your Razr to London, Berlin, or Sydney, it will work. Having a Quad band phone in the U.S. doesn't amount to Jack, it will still only run on the 850/1900 . T-mobile runs on only 1900 I believe, so Cingular's indoor reception will be better. If you have a T-mobile unlocked phone, it is a possiblity that it does not have the capability to get on 850 which would explain why the samsung turns into a pile when you are inside....
    If the samsung is not another carriers phone that is unlocked, you may have other problems...



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    We have it wrong? What is the source of your info? Cingular only has a dual band, so it can roam on 1900, if 850 is not available. I can assure you, the 850 band is the primary for inside and outside. I find it very amusing that you stated they have one for inside and one for outside. How do they know if your in a building or not?



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    Pitty to the fools that second guess me...
    The source of my info is the training I recieved when I became employed by Cingular. 850 Mhz is a longer wavelength, and is able to penetrate objects better. 1900 Mhz is a shorter wavelength, good for a clear shot. Cingular puts out both signals from it's towers, and it is the phone that controls what band to use, not some dude flipping a switch like you may think. A Cingular phone will be on 1900 Mhz most of the time, because it is better for reception and clearer calls.( Shorter wavelength= shorter distance to travel = clear calls) When you enter into a building or something, the phone will detect a drop in reception and automatically switch to 850, to keep the call. It might not even show up on the screen in the bars as a drop, but the phone will detect it. I'm not sure about this, but I would think that it would only take a few fractions of a second to switch...
    Try it out... Stand outside, make a call, then go inside. The call should lose a little of the sound clarity because it has to travel through the infastructure of the house.
    The U.S. only has a dual band, and because Cingular is based out of the U.S., it runs on dual band as well.. Roaming has nothing to do with anything about bands...
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    Can a field tech please answer this question? Not someone from customer service or billing.



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    I am neither a customer service or billing representative.
    What part of my lengthly explanation do you dispute?



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