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- 08-14-2004, 12:58 AM #1DRIZAIIGuest
I am in bayarea.
I have had AT&T GSM for over an year on my T226. I could go to
Connect->GSM Networks, and the phone would show the available
networks. I get AT&T, Cingular and sometimes Tmobile networks listed
in the available NW list.
I get excellent signal strength at both home and inside office bulding
with my AT&T GSM. Note that T226 works in GSM 850 and GSM 1900
Recently I bought T637 and signed up with Cingular. But the reception
has gone down considerably with this new device + service. My
understanding is that AT&T and Cingular share the same network for GSM
and the signal strength should be the same. Why is there a difference?
Also, unlike in T226, I am not able to see the available neworks with
my T637. In T637, if I go to Connect->GSM Networks I only see an empty
list. There is not even an entry for Cingular!
With the T226, I had the flexibility to switch between Cingular and
AT&T and pick the one with the better signal in a particular area..
and this seems to be missing in T637! Is there any way to enable it?
Or Is there something fishy happening here?
Btw, I got the Cingular phone from Amazon unlocked.
thanks,
driz
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- 08-14-2004, 01:44 AM #2P T WangGuest
Re: GSM network question (T226 and T637 or AT&T vs Cingular)
"DRIZAII" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Also, unlike in T226, I am not able to see the available neworks with
> my T637. In T637, if I go to Connect->GSM Networks I only see an empty
> list. There is not even an entry for Cingular!
Have you performed a "New Search" ?
- 08-14-2004, 02:47 AM #3John NavasGuest
Re: GSM network question (T226 and T637 or AT&T vs Cingular)
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In <[email protected]> on 13 Aug 2004 23:58:08
-0700, [email protected] (DRIZAII) wrote:
>I am in bayarea.
>I have had AT&T GSM for over an year on my T226. I could go to
>Connect->GSM Networks, and the phone would show the available
>networks. I get AT&T, Cingular and sometimes Tmobile networks listed
>in the available NW list.
>I get excellent signal strength at both home and inside office bulding
>with my AT&T GSM. Note that T226 works in GSM 850 and GSM 1900
>
>Recently I bought T637 and signed up with Cingular. But the reception
>has gone down considerably with this new device + service. My
>understanding is that AT&T and Cingular share the same network for GSM
>and the signal strength should be the same. Why is there a difference?
Because that's not correct -- Cingular shares network infrastructure with
T-Mobile, not ATTWS.
>Also, unlike in T226, I am not able to see the available neworks with
>my T637. In T637, if I go to Connect->GSM Networks I only see an empty
>list. There is not even an entry for Cingular!
>With the T226, I had the flexibility to switch between Cingular and
>AT&T and pick the one with the better signal in a particular area..
>and this seems to be missing in T637! Is there any way to enable it?
>Or Is there something fishy happening here?
Not if Cingular has blocked it in the SIM.
>Btw, I got the Cingular phone from Amazon unlocked.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>
- 08-14-2004, 07:57 AM #4JosephGuest
Re: GSM network question (T226 and T637 or AT&T vs Cingular)
On 13 Aug 2004 23:58:08 -0700, [email protected] (DRIZAII) wrote:
>Recently I bought T637 and signed up with Cingular. But the reception
>has gone down considerably with this new device + service. My
>understanding is that AT&T and Cingular share the same network for GSM
>and the signal strength should be the same. Why is there a difference?
You assumed incorrectly. cingular and AT&T Wireless *will* be one
network at some future time. They are not completely united yet.
>Also, unlike in T226, I am not able to see the available neworks with
>my T637. In T637, if I go to Connect->GSM Networks I only see an empty
>list. There is not even an entry for Cingular!
>With the T226, I had the flexibility to switch between Cingular and
>AT&T and pick the one with the better signal in a particular area..
>and this seems to be missing in T637! Is there any way to enable it?
>Or Is there something fishy happening here?
cingular has disabled the ability to see other networks on their
phones.
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- 08-14-2004, 10:55 AM #5DRIZAIIGuest
Re: GSM network question (T226 and T637 or AT&T vs Cingular)
"P T Wang" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "DRIZAII" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Also, unlike in T226, I am not able to see the available neworks with
> > my T637. In T637, if I go to Connect->GSM Networks I only see an empty
> > list. There is not even an entry for Cingular!
>
> Have you performed a "New Search" ?
There is no option to do a "new search"...
Both my previous SE phones (T226 and T68i) had it..
- 08-16-2004, 11:21 PM #6Mike JacoubowskyGuest
Re: GSM network question (T226 and T637 or AT&T vs Cingular)
> Because that's not correct -- Cingular shares network infrastructure with
> T-Mobile, not ATTWS.
??? My AT&T GSM phones read either AT&T or Cingular, *never* T-Mobile. I'm
in the San Francisco Bay Area, which may make a difference? The phones (an
SE 226 and T68i) don't seem to care which, they just grab onto whichever has
the strongest signal. Never a roaming charge.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
- 08-17-2004, 07:59 AM #7John NavasGuest
Re: GSM network question (T226 and T637 or AT&T vs Cingular)
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In <[email protected]> on Tue, 17 Aug 2004
05:21:19 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Because that's not correct -- Cingular shares network infrastructure with
>> T-Mobile, not ATTWS.
>
>??? My AT&T GSM phones read either AT&T or Cingular, *never* T-Mobile. I'm
>in the San Francisco Bay Area, which may make a difference?
That's because you're an ATTWS subscriber, and ATTWS now has free *roaming* on
Cingular. But that Cingular network is shared with T-Mobile -- you just see
Cingular and not T-Mobile because ATTWS has roaming in that area on the
former, but not the latter, although it's the same network infrastructure in
either case.
If you were a Cingular subscriber, you would be sharing the same network
infrastructure with T-Mobile, even though you wouldn't see the T-Mobile name
since Cingular has blocked roaming on T-Mobile, which makes sense because it's
the same network. You also wouldn't see ATTWS because Cingular blocks roaming
on ATTWS.
>The phones (an
>SE 226 and T68i) don't seem to care which, they just grab onto whichever has
>the strongest signal. Never a roaming charge.
That's called free roaming, but still roaming nonetheless.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>
- 08-17-2004, 09:31 AM #8Bernard FarquartGuest
Re: GSM network question (T226 and T637 or AT&T vs Cingular)
"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> If you were a Cingular subscriber, you would be sharing the same network
> infrastructure with T-Mobile, even though you wouldn't see the T-Mobile
name
> since Cingular has blocked roaming on T-Mobile, which makes sense because
it's
> the same network. You also wouldn't see ATTWS because Cingular blocks
roaming
> on ATTWS.
>
In the Seattle market, ATT is who you roam to, and I have never
seen "cingular extend" either, so things must be a bit different here.
Bernard
- 08-17-2004, 06:42 PM #9incumbentGuest
Re: GSM network question (T226 and T637 or AT&T vs Cingular)
Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>>Because that's not correct -- Cingular shares network infrastructure with
>>T-Mobile, not ATTWS.
>
>
> ??? My AT&T GSM phones read either AT&T or Cingular, *never* T-Mobile. I'm
> in the San Francisco Bay Area, which may make a difference? The phones (an
> SE 226 and T68i) don't seem to care which, they just grab onto whichever has
> the strongest signal. Never a roaming charge.
Bad example.
T-Mobile has NO network infrastructure in California and piggyback off
AT&T Wireless!
- 08-17-2004, 11:12 PM #10JosephGuest
Re: GSM network question (T226 and T637 or AT&T vs Cingular)
On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 20:42:01 -0400, incumbent <[email protected]>
wrote:
>T-Mobile has NO network infrastructure in California and piggyback off
>AT&T Wireless!
You are absolutely *wrong.!* T-Mobile has been using cingular's GSM
network in California and has been ever since they were sharing
networks in New York. Once the cingular/AT&T deal goes through
cingular is selling the network in California to T-Mobile. Why don't
you make up some other stuff as well, eh?
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- 08-17-2004, 11:56 PM #11John NavasGuest
Re: GSM network question (T226 and T637 or AT&T vs Cingular)
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In <[email protected]> on Tue, 17 Aug 2004 22:12:38
-0700, Joseph <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 20:42:01 -0400, incumbent <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>T-Mobile has NO network infrastructure in California and piggyback off
>>AT&T Wireless!
>
>You are absolutely *wrong.!* T-Mobile has been using cingular's GSM
>network in California ...
It's actually a joint venture.
--
Best regards,
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>
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