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- 07-24-2003, 10:23 PM #1Jason LoweGuest
I think that people will choose to cancel and purchase new phones with
Verizon if they are with Nextel now. I sampled Nextel while I still had
my Verizon and the cellular service is terrible. I think that one major
problem Nextel has is that when you call someone that is writing a
message or on the radio, the system seems to glitch at times and says,
"You have reached a disconnected number, please try again!" This
happens off and on with my friends that have Nextel. This way you
cannot leave a message. Also, you have to listen to.... hold while the
Nextel subscriber you are trying to reach is located!" I think that not
only will Verizon take Nextel to a very low clientel rating, but will
have better features off the bat. I have friends that work for
Corporate and they are telling me that the pricing plans will be
easy...$15 to any pricing plan for unlimited Push-To-Talk and its
Nationwide. Nextel charges $10 on a pricing plan which are pretty
expensive already. I also heard that Verizon has a 10 year contract
with Motorola which means Nextel will most likely be using the same
phones from this moment on...if this is true. A family friend owns a
huge construction company that has about 150 Nextel phones already
stated he has been out of contract and is ready to switch. He said he
has heard a lot of big businesses are stating the same. Nextel has had
the same phones for some time now with terrible battery life. I think
they have great features, but I think that Verizon will have what the
"average" user is looking for!
Evan Platt <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:18:51 -0000, [email protected] (Adam
> Tousley) wrote:
>
> >But seriously, Nextel is going to be in alot of hot water after the
> >launch of Verizon's PTT. Not only b/c Verizon will have a better service
> >footprint in which to use it (Entire 1x network - which is nationwide),
> >but will have the features that Nextel is kicking themselves for not
> >including. I.E. buddy groups where you select 1 name and can PTT up to x
> >users (i'm not sure how many). They will also have buddy lists like AOL
> >that will show you who's available in your group at any given time.
>
> I doubt there 'll be a high churn rate. Keep in mind, people who use
> Nextel now use it because all their contacts are on Nextel.
> Verizon PTT will require a new phone. Something most people won't buy
> right away.
> To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.
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- 07-25-2003, 01:07 AM #2Jason McGeheeGuest
Re: Nextel should be shaking in their boots
I think Nextel has such a huge block of subscribers that use PPT between
them that it may take a long time for Verizon to catch up. I can't tell you
how many contractors in the construction industry and building services
industry that use and depend on Nextel to communicate with each other via
PPT.Verizon should have kicked their butt about 4 or 5 years ago.
Jason
- 07-25-2003, 02:21 PM #3Jason LoweGuest
Re: Nextel should be shaking in their boots
Verizon has been testing this for about a year now. They should be up
and ready next month. I think that they are already ahead with the
features that they will be using.
"Jason McGehee" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<eH4Ua.2157$j%[email protected]>:
> I think Nextel has such a huge block of subscribers that use PPT between
> them that it may take a long time for Verizon to catch up. I can't tell you
> how many contractors in the construction industry and building services
> industry that use and depend on Nextel to communicate with each other via
> PPT.Verizon should have kicked their butt about 4 or 5 years ago.
>
> Jason
>
>
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- 07-25-2003, 03:30 PM #4TWGuest
Re: Nextel should be shaking in their boots
I'm in NewEngland and just switched from Cingular (they suck), to Nextel
after carefully comparing Verizon and Nextel for features and price.
Pricing is competitive if you level out what you are getting. What sold me
on Nextel that Verizon doesn't offer:
1. True nationwide no roaming/long distance shared across phones on the same
account. Verizon will sell you nationwide, or shared but not together.
Their contract states, for the shareplan $0.45/min in the Verizon network.
When roaming, $0.69 rate applies, and the language in the fine print leaves
me wondering if there are times when airtime and long distance charges could
be even more. Nextel's shared nationwide plan is $0.40/minute beyond
allocation, period.
2. Verizon's mobile to mobile service is charged at both ends, by the whole
minute, at $0.40/minute after allowance is used. Talking to your wife is
running you $0.80 per minute, and you pay for the whole minute whether you
use it all or not. Compare that to Nextel's direct connect plan: only the
originator pays for the call, charged by the _seconds_ actually used, at a
rate of $0.10/min. Nextel is much more cost effective, and they are
extending this service nationwide right now.
3. Search the web for complaints... I can find dozens of posts from people
that feel burned by Verizon. Most of the material I've read about Nextel is
pretty positive.
My 2 cents...
TW
- 07-25-2003, 09:04 PM #5mitchell friendGuest
Re: Nextel should be shaking in their boots
if you live in a city ,go 5 miles out and your direct connect doesnt
work and cell doesnt either.
"TW" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<yjhUa.145528$ye4.100461@sccrnsc01>:
> I'm in NewEngland and just switched from Cingular (they suck), to Nextel
> after carefully comparing Verizon and Nextel for features and price.
>
> Pricing is competitive if you level out what you are getting. What sold me
> on Nextel that Verizon doesn't offer:
>
> 1. True nationwide no roaming/long distance shared across phones on the same
> account. Verizon will sell you nationwide, or shared but not together.
> Their contract states, for the shareplan $0.45/min in the Verizon network.
> When roaming, $0.69 rate applies, and the language in the fine print leaves
> me wondering if there are times when airtime and long distance charges could
> be even more. Nextel's shared nationwide plan is $0.40/minute beyond
> allocation, period.
>
> 2. Verizon's mobile to mobile service is charged at both ends, by the whole
> minute, at $0.40/minute after allowance is used. Talking to your wife is
> running you $0.80 per minute, and you pay for the whole minute whether you
> use it all or not. Compare that to Nextel's direct connect plan: only the
> originator pays for the call, charged by the _seconds_ actually used, at a
> rate of $0.10/min. Nextel is much more cost effective, and they are
> extending this service nationwide right now.
>
> 3. Search the web for complaints... I can find dozens of posts from people
> that feel burned by Verizon. Most of the material I've read about Nextel is
> pretty positive.
>
> My 2 cents...
> TW
>
>
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- 07-25-2003, 10:03 PM #6kzGuest
Re: Nextel should be shaking in their boots
Not true. We switched from Cingular because that was the case. I get
better reception OUTSIDE of town with Nextel than with Cingular! We even
went camping and checked my e-mail and PPT'd with the office the whole time.
Good points, TW!
"mitchell friend" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> if you live in a city ,go 5 miles out and your direct connect doesnt
> work and cell doesnt either.
>
> "TW" <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <yjhUa.145528$ye4.100461@sccrnsc01>:
> > I'm in NewEngland and just switched from Cingular (they suck), to Nextel
> > after carefully comparing Verizon and Nextel for features and price.
> >
> > Pricing is competitive if you level out what you are getting. What sold
me
> > on Nextel that Verizon doesn't offer:
> >
> > 1. True nationwide no roaming/long distance shared across phones on the
same
> > account. Verizon will sell you nationwide, or shared but not together.
> > Their contract states, for the shareplan $0.45/min in the Verizon
network.
> > When roaming, $0.69 rate applies, and the language in the fine print
leaves
> > me wondering if there are times when airtime and long distance charges
could
> > be even more. Nextel's shared nationwide plan is $0.40/minute beyond
> > allocation, period.
> >
> > 2. Verizon's mobile to mobile service is charged at both ends, by the
whole
> > minute, at $0.40/minute after allowance is used. Talking to your wife
is
> > running you $0.80 per minute, and you pay for the whole minute whether
you
> > use it all or not. Compare that to Nextel's direct connect plan: only
the
> > originator pays for the call, charged by the _seconds_ actually used,
at a
> > rate of $0.10/min. Nextel is much more cost effective, and they are
> > extending this service nationwide right now.
> >
> > 3. Search the web for complaints... I can find dozens of posts from
people
> > that feel burned by Verizon. Most of the material I've read about
Nextel is
> > pretty positive.
> >
> > My 2 cents...
> > TW
> >
> >
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
- 07-26-2003, 01:09 AM #7Jason McGeheeGuest
Re: Nextel should be shaking in their boots
I have Nextel show no signal right in downtown Las Vegas. I15 and Sunset
Road.
Jason
"mitchell friend" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> if you live in a city ,go 5 miles out and your direct connect doesnt
> work and cell doesnt either.
- 07-26-2003, 07:04 PM #8Jason LoweGuest
Re: Nextel should be shaking in their boots
Nextel may have "no roaming" on all their plans, however, Nextel is only
in 31 states!!!!! If you were to sit and compare prices, Verizon is by
far cheaper and better. I just verified today that Verizon Radio
Service will be launched August 8th. They said it will be either $10 or
$15 a month added to any plane for Nationwide Connection. Cheaper and
better than Nextel has! Also, it conversation is the same on the radio
as if you were on the phone. This means no delay, they said it's going
to be TRUE Digital! That's funny because Nextel has been out here for
11 years and they still have a 1 second delay that only took 6 months
for Verizon to fix. It shows who is up on Technology and who can use
the help!
"TW" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<yjhUa.145528$ye4.100461@sccrnsc01>:
> I'm in NewEngland and just switched from Cingular (they suck), to Nextel
> after carefully comparing Verizon and Nextel for features and price.
>
> Pricing is competitive if you level out what you are getting. What sold me
> on Nextel that Verizon doesn't offer:
>
> 1. True nationwide no roaming/long distance shared across phones on the same
> account. Verizon will sell you nationwide, or shared but not together.
> Their contract states, for the shareplan $0.45/min in the Verizon network.
> When roaming, $0.69 rate applies, and the language in the fine print leaves
> me wondering if there are times when airtime and long distance charges could
> be even more. Nextel's shared nationwide plan is $0.40/minute beyond
> allocation, period.
>
> 2. Verizon's mobile to mobile service is charged at both ends, by the whole
> minute, at $0.40/minute after allowance is used. Talking to your wife is
> running you $0.80 per minute, and you pay for the whole minute whether you
> use it all or not. Compare that to Nextel's direct connect plan: only the
> originator pays for the call, charged by the _seconds_ actually used, at a
> rate of $0.10/min. Nextel is much more cost effective, and they are
> extending this service nationwide right now.
>
> 3. Search the web for complaints... I can find dozens of posts from people
> that feel burned by Verizon. Most of the material I've read about Nextel is
> pretty positive.
>
> My 2 cents...
> TW
>
>
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- 07-27-2003, 01:32 AM #9Jason McGeheeGuest
Re: Nextel should be shaking in their boots
I think it is going to be a while for Verizon to overtake Nextel for the PPT
market. I think most customers that wanted that feature are using Nextel
already. Many of these customers are using PPT to communicate between
customer-to-customer.
I am glad that Nextel is getting some serious competition in this market.
Hopefully, prices will be better. Also, I hope more phone manufactures will
make phones for this market. Nextel / Motorola phones are big, lack
state-of-the-art features, and are slow to release new phones. Maybe
companies like Nokia, Siemens, Ericsson, and others will jump into the game.
Jason
- 07-27-2003, 09:13 PM #10CaptainGuest
Re: Nextel should be shaking in their boots
really, my buddy's worked fine last year there.
"Jason McGehee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have Nextel show no signal right in downtown Las Vegas. I15 and Sunset
> Road.
>
> Jason
> "mitchell friend" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > if you live in a city ,go 5 miles out and your direct connect doesnt
> > work and cell doesnt either.
>
>
- 07-27-2003, 09:14 PM #11CaptainGuest
Re: Nextel should be shaking in their boots
in MN verizon sucks, besides, I have free incoming and nobody can beat that
for my business needs.
"Jason Lowe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Nextel may have "no roaming" on all their plans, however, Nextel is only
> in 31 states!!!!! If you were to sit and compare prices, Verizon is by
> far cheaper and better. I just verified today that Verizon Radio
> Service will be launched August 8th. They said it will be either $10 or
> $15 a month added to any plane for Nationwide Connection. Cheaper and
> better than Nextel has! Also, it conversation is the same on the radio
> as if you were on the phone. This means no delay, they said it's going
> to be TRUE Digital! That's funny because Nextel has been out here for
> 11 years and they still have a 1 second delay that only took 6 months
> for Verizon to fix. It shows who is up on Technology and who can use
> the help!
>
> "TW" <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <yjhUa.145528$ye4.100461@sccrnsc01>:
> > I'm in NewEngland and just switched from Cingular (they suck), to Nextel
> > after carefully comparing Verizon and Nextel for features and price.
> >
> > Pricing is competitive if you level out what you are getting. What sold
me
> > on Nextel that Verizon doesn't offer:
> >
> > 1. True nationwide no roaming/long distance shared across phones on the
same
> > account. Verizon will sell you nationwide, or shared but not together.
> > Their contract states, for the shareplan $0.45/min in the Verizon
network.
> > When roaming, $0.69 rate applies, and the language in the fine print
leaves
> > me wondering if there are times when airtime and long distance charges
could
> > be even more. Nextel's shared nationwide plan is $0.40/minute beyond
> > allocation, period.
> >
> > 2. Verizon's mobile to mobile service is charged at both ends, by the
whole
> > minute, at $0.40/minute after allowance is used. Talking to your wife
is
> > running you $0.80 per minute, and you pay for the whole minute whether
you
> > use it all or not. Compare that to Nextel's direct connect plan: only
the
> > originator pays for the call, charged by the _seconds_ actually used,
at a
> > rate of $0.10/min. Nextel is much more cost effective, and they are
> > extending this service nationwide right now.
> >
> > 3. Search the web for complaints... I can find dozens of posts from
people
> > that feel burned by Verizon. Most of the material I've read about
Nextel is
> > pretty positive.
> >
> > My 2 cents...
> > TW
> >
> >
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
- 07-27-2003, 09:47 PM #12Jason LoweGuest
Re: Nextel should be shaking in their boots
The only reason that Nextel uses Motorola is because they are the best
built phones around. My friend dropped his i1000 from 150 off a tower
by mistake and just put a little crack in the plastic, still works fine!
"Jason McGehee" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> I think it is going to be a while for Verizon to overtake Nextel for the PPT
> market. I think most customers that wanted that feature are using Nextel
> already. Many of these customers are using PPT to communicate between
> customer-to-customer.
>
> I am glad that Nextel is getting some serious competition in this market.
> Hopefully, prices will be better. Also, I hope more phone manufactures will
> make phones for this market. Nextel / Motorola phones are big, lack
> state-of-the-art features, and are slow to release new phones. Maybe
> companies like Nokia, Siemens, Ericsson, and others will jump into the game.
>
> Jason
>
>
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- 07-28-2003, 09:02 AM #13P HowardGuest
Re: Nextel should be shaking in their boots
Around the Washington DC beltway, commuted by millions every day, the
average Nextel phone drops 5 phone calls per day. My Verizon Wireless
phone might drop about that many in an entire month. In the surrounding
areas, if you are not on a major highway in Virginia, or in the very
northern tip of VA, where their HQ is located, no Nextel service. VZW
has Virginia almost entirely covered. One third of the time I call my
uncle's Nextel phone I get a recording saying, "All circuits busy,
please try your call again later," or "Please hold while we connect you
to this Nextel user" and the call doesn't go through.
At least in this area, I think there will be plenty of Nextel users
ready to jump ship when their contract ends and try VZW's PTT. I don't
know one Nextel user that is happy with their digital cellular network.
Pretty sad considering its basically Nextel's backyard.
--
Verizon customer/ formerly Cingular user/ formerly Sprint PCS user
"Captain" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> really, my buddy's worked fine last year there.
> "Jason McGehee" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I have Nextel show no signal right in downtown Las Vegas. I15 and Sunset
> > Road.
> >
> > Jason
> > "mitchell friend" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > if you live in a city ,go 5 miles out and your direct connect doesnt
> > > work and cell doesnt either.
> >
> >
>
>
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- 07-28-2003, 08:16 PM #14Jason McGeheeGuest
Re: Nextel should be shaking in their boots
The only reason why Nextel uses Motorola is because Motorola hold the patent
on the Iden technology. I do dgree that Motorola does make good phones, but
iden phones are always behind, way behind, what the rest of the industry is
doing.
Jason
- 07-28-2003, 09:54 PM #15cell playGuest
Re: Nextel should be shaking in their boots
I just came from MN and had great coverage! Have you seen the coverage
map recently. Almost entire state is covered. Traveled from Fargo to
twin cities and had not one dead spot. Was also in Duluth, no probs.
"Captain" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> in MN verizon sucks, besides, I have free incoming and nobody can beat that
> for my business needs.
> "Jason Lowe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Nextel may have "no roaming" on all their plans, however, Nextel is only
> > in 31 states!!!!! If you were to sit and compare prices, Verizon is by
> > far cheaper and better. I just verified today that Verizon Radio
> > Service will be launched August 8th. They said it will be either $10 or
> > $15 a month added to any plane for Nationwide Connection. Cheaper and
> > better than Nextel has! Also, it conversation is the same on the radio
> > as if you were on the phone. This means no delay, they said it's going
> > to be TRUE Digital! That's funny because Nextel has been out here for
> > 11 years and they still have a 1 second delay that only took 6 months
> > for Verizon to fix. It shows who is up on Technology and who can use
> > the help!
> >
> > "TW" <[email protected]> wrote in article
> > <yjhUa.145528$ye4.100461@sccrnsc01>:
> > > I'm in NewEngland and just switched from Cingular (they suck), to Nextel
> > > after carefully comparing Verizon and Nextel for features and price.
> > >
> > > Pricing is competitive if you level out what you are getting. What sold
> me
> > > on Nextel that Verizon doesn't offer:
> > >
> > > 1. True nationwide no roaming/long distance shared across phones on the
> same
> > > account. Verizon will sell you nationwide, or shared but not together.
> > > Their contract states, for the shareplan $0.45/min in the Verizon
> network.
> > > When roaming, $0.69 rate applies, and the language in the fine print
> leaves
> > > me wondering if there are times when airtime and long distance charges
> could
> > > be even more. Nextel's shared nationwide plan is $0.40/minute beyond
> > > allocation, period.
> > >
> > > 2. Verizon's mobile to mobile service is charged at both ends, by the
> whole
> > > minute, at $0.40/minute after allowance is used. Talking to your wife
> is
> > > running you $0.80 per minute, and you pay for the whole minute whether
> you
> > > use it all or not. Compare that to Nextel's direct connect plan: only
> the
> > > originator pays for the call, charged by the _seconds_ actually used,
> at a
> > > rate of $0.10/min. Nextel is much more cost effective, and they are
> > > extending this service nationwide right now.
> > >
> > > 3. Search the web for complaints... I can find dozens of posts from
> people
> > > that feel burned by Verizon. Most of the material I've read about
> Nextel is
> > > pretty positive.
> > >
> > > My 2 cents...
> > > TW
> > >
> > >
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
>
>
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