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  1. #61
    Michael
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    Re: cell phone use in hospitals

    On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:54:17 GMT, "Anon" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I don't know how critical the issue is but wouldn't you rather err on the
    >safe side? It's a toy/status symbol to 99.9% of people so I don't think it's
    >going to kill the able-bodied to shut off their cell for a little while.
    >Common courtesy seems to be a dying breed.





    Instead of arguing back and forth over whether phones cause what
    read all about it. Someone else gave this link:

    http://www.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm



    See More: cell phone use in hospitals




  2. #62
    Zak Dingle
    Guest

    Re: cell phone use in hospitals


    "maryann" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > I spent all of today in John Muir Hospital waiting for the gf to come out
    > of surgery, and noticed that each and every hospital employee appears to
    > be equipped with a cell phone. Needless to say, they
    > seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.


    The use of cellular phones here in UK hospitals, has been banned for years!

    HTH
    tox





  3. #63
    Zak Dingle
    Guest

    Re: cell phone use in hospitals


    "maryann" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > I spent all of today in John Muir Hospital waiting for the gf to come out
    > of surgery, and noticed that each and every hospital employee appears to
    > be equipped with a cell phone. Needless to say, they
    > seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.


    The use of cellular phones here in UK hospitals, has been banned for years!

    HTH
    tox





  4. #64
    Lawrence G. Mayka
    Guest

    Re: cell phone use in hospitals

    "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Instead of arguing back and forth over whether phones cause what
    > read all about it. Someone else gave this link:
    >
    > http://www.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm


    This article is extremely amateurish and/or outdated. The very fact that it
    mentions cell phone power as 3W (which was *never* true of handheld phones,
    only car phones and bag phones) indicates that the author actually knows
    very little about the subject.

    More importantly, though, any such interference argument is (a) hypothetical
    unless evidence is presented, and (b) not applicable to CDMA (spread
    spectrum), which is a military-class technology designed to be practically
    indetectible to any equipment not specifically designed to detect it.





  5. #65
    Lawrence G. Mayka
    Guest

    Re: cell phone use in hospitals

    "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Instead of arguing back and forth over whether phones cause what
    > read all about it. Someone else gave this link:
    >
    > http://www.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm


    This article is extremely amateurish and/or outdated. The very fact that it
    mentions cell phone power as 3W (which was *never* true of handheld phones,
    only car phones and bag phones) indicates that the author actually knows
    very little about the subject.

    More importantly, though, any such interference argument is (a) hypothetical
    unless evidence is presented, and (b) not applicable to CDMA (spread
    spectrum), which is a military-class technology designed to be practically
    indetectible to any equipment not specifically designed to detect it.





  6. #66
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: cell phone use in hospitals


    "Lawrence G. Mayka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Instead of arguing back and forth over whether phones cause what
    > > read all about it. Someone else gave this link:
    > >
    > > http://www.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm

    >
    > This article is extremely amateurish and/or outdated. The very fact that

    it
    > mentions cell phone power as 3W (which was *never* true of handheld

    phones,
    > only car phones and bag phones) indicates that the author actually knows
    > very little about the subject.
    >
    > More importantly, though, any such interference argument is (a)

    hypothetical
    > unless evidence is presented, and (b) not applicable to CDMA (spread
    > spectrum), which is a military-class technology designed to be practically
    > indetectible to any equipment not specifically designed to detect it.
    >
    >


    Sorry Lawrence, you are totally off your rocker on this one. Whenever my
    friend came over with his cell phone I knew he was there before he came to
    the door cause the radio and TV would start getting interference every few
    minutes from his cell phone checking in, I would say your (A) is totally
    false.





  7. #67
    Peter Pan
    Guest

    Re: cell phone use in hospitals


    "Lawrence G. Mayka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Instead of arguing back and forth over whether phones cause what
    > > read all about it. Someone else gave this link:
    > >
    > > http://www.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm

    >
    > This article is extremely amateurish and/or outdated. The very fact that

    it
    > mentions cell phone power as 3W (which was *never* true of handheld

    phones,
    > only car phones and bag phones) indicates that the author actually knows
    > very little about the subject.
    >
    > More importantly, though, any such interference argument is (a)

    hypothetical
    > unless evidence is presented, and (b) not applicable to CDMA (spread
    > spectrum), which is a military-class technology designed to be practically
    > indetectible to any equipment not specifically designed to detect it.
    >
    >


    Sorry Lawrence, you are totally off your rocker on this one. Whenever my
    friend came over with his cell phone I knew he was there before he came to
    the door cause the radio and TV would start getting interference every few
    minutes from his cell phone checking in, I would say your (A) is totally
    false.





  8. #68
    Mark Allread
    Guest

    Re: cell phone use in hospitals

    On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:36:19 GMT, Lawrence G. Mayka
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    > The only evidence at all I've seen of interference with sensitive
    > equipment
    > (e.g., avionics) was:
    >
    > 1) Within twelve inches of the equipment
    >
    > 2) single-frequency technology (analog/TDMA/GSM) instead of
    > spread-spectrum
    > (CDMA)


    Have you ever been in an "all occupants killed" plane crash? Shall
    we take that as evidence that they don't happen?

    --
    Mark



  9. #69
    Mark Allread
    Guest

    Re: cell phone use in hospitals

    On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:36:19 GMT, Lawrence G. Mayka
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    > The only evidence at all I've seen of interference with sensitive
    > equipment
    > (e.g., avionics) was:
    >
    > 1) Within twelve inches of the equipment
    >
    > 2) single-frequency technology (analog/TDMA/GSM) instead of
    > spread-spectrum
    > (CDMA)


    Have you ever been in an "all occupants killed" plane crash? Shall
    we take that as evidence that they don't happen?

    --
    Mark



  10. #70
    Real Estate Agent
    Guest

    Re: cell phone use in hospitals

    There used to be signs at the doors of hospitals warning about cell phones.
    I have not seen these, recently.

    Like another contributor to these forums, I see a lot of communication
    devices carried by hospital employees. However, they appear to be VHF
    commercial walkie-talkie units.

    And, as someone pointed out, shielding makes it a moot point in many areas
    of a medical facility. I volunter as a driver for the American Cancer
    Society, and frequently am at the radiation department. Signals are dismal.
    By the way, I experience the same situation in some bank buildings.

    -Paul-

    ________________________________
    Note to my friends:
    If I am in the hospital, forget the cards and
    flowers. I want a pizza and a get-away car!
    ________________________________






  11. #71
    Real Estate Agent
    Guest

    Re: cell phone use in hospitals

    There used to be signs at the doors of hospitals warning about cell phones.
    I have not seen these, recently.

    Like another contributor to these forums, I see a lot of communication
    devices carried by hospital employees. However, they appear to be VHF
    commercial walkie-talkie units.

    And, as someone pointed out, shielding makes it a moot point in many areas
    of a medical facility. I volunter as a driver for the American Cancer
    Society, and frequently am at the radiation department. Signals are dismal.
    By the way, I experience the same situation in some bank buildings.

    -Paul-

    ________________________________
    Note to my friends:
    If I am in the hospital, forget the cards and
    flowers. I want a pizza and a get-away car!
    ________________________________






  12. #72
    J Oat
    Guest

    Re: cell phone use in hospitals

    Lawrence,
    save your breaths, most people do not want to know. ignorant is bless

    btw i agree with your view. CDMA radiate the least and GSM the most at
    their peak output of 2W I think, even though the average power output is
    comparable to CDMA.

    "Lawrence G. Mayka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Instead of arguing back and forth over whether phones cause what
    > > read all about it. Someone else gave this link:
    > >
    > > http://www.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm

    >
    > This article is extremely amateurish and/or outdated. The very fact that

    it
    > mentions cell phone power as 3W (which was *never* true of handheld

    phones,
    > only car phones and bag phones) indicates that the author actually knows
    > very little about the subject.
    >
    > More importantly, though, any such interference argument is (a)

    hypothetical
    > unless evidence is presented, and (b) not applicable to CDMA (spread
    > spectrum), which is a military-class technology designed to be practically
    > indetectible to any equipment not specifically designed to detect it.
    >
    >






  13. #73
    J Oat
    Guest

    Re: cell phone use in hospitals

    Lawrence,
    save your breaths, most people do not want to know. ignorant is bless

    btw i agree with your view. CDMA radiate the least and GSM the most at
    their peak output of 2W I think, even though the average power output is
    comparable to CDMA.

    "Lawrence G. Mayka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Instead of arguing back and forth over whether phones cause what
    > > read all about it. Someone else gave this link:
    > >
    > > http://www.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm

    >
    > This article is extremely amateurish and/or outdated. The very fact that

    it
    > mentions cell phone power as 3W (which was *never* true of handheld

    phones,
    > only car phones and bag phones) indicates that the author actually knows
    > very little about the subject.
    >
    > More importantly, though, any such interference argument is (a)

    hypothetical
    > unless evidence is presented, and (b) not applicable to CDMA (spread
    > spectrum), which is a military-class technology designed to be practically
    > indetectible to any equipment not specifically designed to detect it.
    >
    >






  14. #74
    Marvin L. Zinn
    Guest

    Re: cell phone use in hospitals

    Maryann,

    > Needless to say, they
    > seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.
    >

    Another possible conclusion: the more health problems patients have, the
    more business hospitals get. It probably is not the low level employees that
    want to carry cell phones, but those who get the most benefit from the
    number of patient-days they sell.

    Marvin L. Zinn
    [email protected]
    Using Virtual Access
    Windows 2000 build 2600




  15. #75
    Marvin L. Zinn
    Guest

    Re: cell phone use in hospitals

    Maryann,

    > Needless to say, they
    > seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.
    >

    Another possible conclusion: the more health problems patients have, the
    more business hospitals get. It probably is not the low level employees that
    want to carry cell phones, but those who get the most benefit from the
    number of patient-days they sell.

    Marvin L. Zinn
    [email protected]
    Using Virtual Access
    Windows 2000 build 2600




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