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- 11-19-2003, 12:30 PM #61MichaelGuest
Re: cell phone use in hospitals
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 17:54:17 GMT, "Anon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I don't know how critical the issue is but wouldn't you rather err on the
>safe side? It's a toy/status symbol to 99.9% of people so I don't think it's
>going to kill the able-bodied to shut off their cell for a little while.
>Common courtesy seems to be a dying breed.
Instead of arguing back and forth over whether phones cause what
read all about it. Someone else gave this link:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm
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- 11-19-2003, 12:54 PM #62Zak DingleGuest
Re: cell phone use in hospitals
"maryann" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I spent all of today in John Muir Hospital waiting for the gf to come out
> of surgery, and noticed that each and every hospital employee appears to
> be equipped with a cell phone. Needless to say, they
> seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.
The use of cellular phones here in UK hospitals, has been banned for years!
HTH
tox
- 11-19-2003, 12:54 PM #63Zak DingleGuest
Re: cell phone use in hospitals
"maryann" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I spent all of today in John Muir Hospital waiting for the gf to come out
> of surgery, and noticed that each and every hospital employee appears to
> be equipped with a cell phone. Needless to say, they
> seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.
The use of cellular phones here in UK hospitals, has been banned for years!
HTH
tox
- 11-19-2003, 02:21 PM #64Lawrence G. MaykaGuest
Re: cell phone use in hospitals
"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Instead of arguing back and forth over whether phones cause what
> read all about it. Someone else gave this link:
>
> http://www.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm
This article is extremely amateurish and/or outdated. The very fact that it
mentions cell phone power as 3W (which was *never* true of handheld phones,
only car phones and bag phones) indicates that the author actually knows
very little about the subject.
More importantly, though, any such interference argument is (a) hypothetical
unless evidence is presented, and (b) not applicable to CDMA (spread
spectrum), which is a military-class technology designed to be practically
indetectible to any equipment not specifically designed to detect it.
- 11-19-2003, 02:21 PM #65Lawrence G. MaykaGuest
Re: cell phone use in hospitals
"Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Instead of arguing back and forth over whether phones cause what
> read all about it. Someone else gave this link:
>
> http://www.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm
This article is extremely amateurish and/or outdated. The very fact that it
mentions cell phone power as 3W (which was *never* true of handheld phones,
only car phones and bag phones) indicates that the author actually knows
very little about the subject.
More importantly, though, any such interference argument is (a) hypothetical
unless evidence is presented, and (b) not applicable to CDMA (spread
spectrum), which is a military-class technology designed to be practically
indetectible to any equipment not specifically designed to detect it.
- 11-19-2003, 02:39 PM #66Peter PanGuest
Re: cell phone use in hospitals
"Lawrence G. Mayka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Instead of arguing back and forth over whether phones cause what
> > read all about it. Someone else gave this link:
> >
> > http://www.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm
>
> This article is extremely amateurish and/or outdated. The very fact that
it
> mentions cell phone power as 3W (which was *never* true of handheld
phones,
> only car phones and bag phones) indicates that the author actually knows
> very little about the subject.
>
> More importantly, though, any such interference argument is (a)
hypothetical
> unless evidence is presented, and (b) not applicable to CDMA (spread
> spectrum), which is a military-class technology designed to be practically
> indetectible to any equipment not specifically designed to detect it.
>
>
Sorry Lawrence, you are totally off your rocker on this one. Whenever my
friend came over with his cell phone I knew he was there before he came to
the door cause the radio and TV would start getting interference every few
minutes from his cell phone checking in, I would say your (A) is totally
false.
- 11-19-2003, 02:39 PM #67Peter PanGuest
Re: cell phone use in hospitals
"Lawrence G. Mayka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Instead of arguing back and forth over whether phones cause what
> > read all about it. Someone else gave this link:
> >
> > http://www.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm
>
> This article is extremely amateurish and/or outdated. The very fact that
it
> mentions cell phone power as 3W (which was *never* true of handheld
phones,
> only car phones and bag phones) indicates that the author actually knows
> very little about the subject.
>
> More importantly, though, any such interference argument is (a)
hypothetical
> unless evidence is presented, and (b) not applicable to CDMA (spread
> spectrum), which is a military-class technology designed to be practically
> indetectible to any equipment not specifically designed to detect it.
>
>
Sorry Lawrence, you are totally off your rocker on this one. Whenever my
friend came over with his cell phone I knew he was there before he came to
the door cause the radio and TV would start getting interference every few
minutes from his cell phone checking in, I would say your (A) is totally
false.
- 11-19-2003, 03:18 PM #68Mark AllreadGuest
Re: cell phone use in hospitals
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:36:19 GMT, Lawrence G. Mayka
<[email protected]> wrote:
> The only evidence at all I've seen of interference with sensitive
> equipment
> (e.g., avionics) was:
>
> 1) Within twelve inches of the equipment
>
> 2) single-frequency technology (analog/TDMA/GSM) instead of
> spread-spectrum
> (CDMA)
Have you ever been in an "all occupants killed" plane crash? Shall
we take that as evidence that they don't happen?
--
Mark
- 11-19-2003, 03:18 PM #69Mark AllreadGuest
Re: cell phone use in hospitals
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:36:19 GMT, Lawrence G. Mayka
<[email protected]> wrote:
> The only evidence at all I've seen of interference with sensitive
> equipment
> (e.g., avionics) was:
>
> 1) Within twelve inches of the equipment
>
> 2) single-frequency technology (analog/TDMA/GSM) instead of
> spread-spectrum
> (CDMA)
Have you ever been in an "all occupants killed" plane crash? Shall
we take that as evidence that they don't happen?
--
Mark
- 11-19-2003, 03:35 PM #70Real Estate AgentGuest
Re: cell phone use in hospitals
There used to be signs at the doors of hospitals warning about cell phones.
I have not seen these, recently.
Like another contributor to these forums, I see a lot of communication
devices carried by hospital employees. However, they appear to be VHF
commercial walkie-talkie units.
And, as someone pointed out, shielding makes it a moot point in many areas
of a medical facility. I volunter as a driver for the American Cancer
Society, and frequently am at the radiation department. Signals are dismal.
By the way, I experience the same situation in some bank buildings.
-Paul-
________________________________
Note to my friends:
If I am in the hospital, forget the cards and
flowers. I want a pizza and a get-away car!
________________________________
- 11-19-2003, 03:35 PM #71Real Estate AgentGuest
Re: cell phone use in hospitals
There used to be signs at the doors of hospitals warning about cell phones.
I have not seen these, recently.
Like another contributor to these forums, I see a lot of communication
devices carried by hospital employees. However, they appear to be VHF
commercial walkie-talkie units.
And, as someone pointed out, shielding makes it a moot point in many areas
of a medical facility. I volunter as a driver for the American Cancer
Society, and frequently am at the radiation department. Signals are dismal.
By the way, I experience the same situation in some bank buildings.
-Paul-
________________________________
Note to my friends:
If I am in the hospital, forget the cards and
flowers. I want a pizza and a get-away car!
________________________________
- 11-19-2003, 04:14 PM #72J OatGuest
Re: cell phone use in hospitals
Lawrence,
save your breaths, most people do not want to know. ignorant is bless
btw i agree with your view. CDMA radiate the least and GSM the most at
their peak output of 2W I think, even though the average power output is
comparable to CDMA.
"Lawrence G. Mayka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Instead of arguing back and forth over whether phones cause what
> > read all about it. Someone else gave this link:
> >
> > http://www.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm
>
> This article is extremely amateurish and/or outdated. The very fact that
it
> mentions cell phone power as 3W (which was *never* true of handheld
phones,
> only car phones and bag phones) indicates that the author actually knows
> very little about the subject.
>
> More importantly, though, any such interference argument is (a)
hypothetical
> unless evidence is presented, and (b) not applicable to CDMA (spread
> spectrum), which is a military-class technology designed to be practically
> indetectible to any equipment not specifically designed to detect it.
>
>
- 11-19-2003, 04:14 PM #73J OatGuest
Re: cell phone use in hospitals
Lawrence,
save your breaths, most people do not want to know. ignorant is bless
btw i agree with your view. CDMA radiate the least and GSM the most at
their peak output of 2W I think, even though the average power output is
comparable to CDMA.
"Lawrence G. Mayka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Michael" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Instead of arguing back and forth over whether phones cause what
> > read all about it. Someone else gave this link:
> >
> > http://www.howstuffworks.com/question230.htm
>
> This article is extremely amateurish and/or outdated. The very fact that
it
> mentions cell phone power as 3W (which was *never* true of handheld
phones,
> only car phones and bag phones) indicates that the author actually knows
> very little about the subject.
>
> More importantly, though, any such interference argument is (a)
hypothetical
> unless evidence is presented, and (b) not applicable to CDMA (spread
> spectrum), which is a military-class technology designed to be practically
> indetectible to any equipment not specifically designed to detect it.
>
>
- 11-19-2003, 04:24 PM #74Marvin L. ZinnGuest
Re: cell phone use in hospitals
Maryann,
> Needless to say, they
> seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.
>
Another possible conclusion: the more health problems patients have, the
more business hospitals get. It probably is not the low level employees that
want to carry cell phones, but those who get the most benefit from the
number of patient-days they sell.
Marvin L. Zinn
[email protected]
Using Virtual Access
Windows 2000 build 2600
- 11-19-2003, 04:24 PM #75Marvin L. ZinnGuest
Re: cell phone use in hospitals
Maryann,
> Needless to say, they
> seem to think they won't kill the patients that way.
>
Another possible conclusion: the more health problems patients have, the
more business hospitals get. It probably is not the low level employees that
want to carry cell phones, but those who get the most benefit from the
number of patient-days they sell.
Marvin L. Zinn
[email protected]
Using Virtual Access
Windows 2000 build 2600
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