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- 12-08-2004, 11:25 PM #1Isaiah BeardGuest
Protest wrote:
> Forget what the 411 plan promises "TODAY".
Oh yeah, let's just into a total panic!
> When there's HUGE money to be made selling our phone numbers,
> plans/promises can and will be changed,
> often without much of a warning to us consumers.
And the Qsent proposal makes this easier how? If the cell companies
really wanted to do this, they wouldn't have to publish a 411
directory... they already have our numbers and could easily sell those
numbers TODAY.
Oh and by the way... the Do Not Call list has problems as well. Putting
your number on the list only makes your number off limits to for-profit
telemarketing calls. Do you realize how many telemarketers have
switched to getting paid to represent non-profit and political
endeavors, both of which are NOT covered by DNC, and which ALL of those
numbers are now publicly available and fair play to telemarketers
getting paid to market for non-profit agencies? That's right, your cell
phone number may not have been immediately known to non profit agencies,
but putting it on the DNC list makes it available and callable to any
boilerroom that's getting cash to guilt-trip called households to donate
money to "worthy" causes. Of which half or more of the amount collected
will go to "overhead" expenses, lining the pockets of telemarketing
firms who are allowed to profit even if they work for "non-profit"
agencies. Nice move, moron.
> Oh, it won't be "published" in hardcopy but
> that doesn't mean that the softcopy can't be sold.
>
> Besides, the National Do Not Call Registry is simple.
> All that is required is the phone number and
> an email address.
Ah, so they can spam you too.
Look, all you're doing is playing on the fears of the uninformed to
spread an urban myth. I wish scum like you would get a life.
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- 12-09-2004, 04:02 AM #2Simon TemplarGuest
Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information
Ron Marraccini wrote:
> Besides -
>
> Putting one's cell number on a "do not call list" - just creates another
> list and, please realize that it would be a highly coveted (ie; expensive)
> one at that.
>
> Everything is for sale somewhere.
>
In Australia we don't have such laws, so I encourage the callers to
create a new list, called the "GET F!@KED LIST". By telling all these
callers to "GET F!@KED" they hopefully spread the word not to ring me!
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- 12-09-2004, 03:31 PM #3Jacob SuterGuest
Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information
Ivor Jones wrote:
> John Richards wrote:
>
>>"Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>Michelle Steiner wrote:
>>>
>>>>There's a law against telemarketing to cell phones. The sky is
>>>>not falling.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/cell411.asp
>>>
>>>
>>>All this assumes of course that the whole world lives in the USA.
>>
>>Do you think foreign-based telemarketers will be calling US
>>consumers? I really doubt it.
>
>
> They call UK customers all the time..! Half the world's call centres are
> now in India it seems....
If it has a US-based ANI, the provider is responsible.
JS
- 12-09-2004, 10:21 PM #4Isaiah BeardGuest
Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information
Protest wrote:
> And, what are you doing?
Pointing our your stupidity. You pronounce doom and gloom over allowing
people to put cell numbers on a national publicly available list, and
then you ask everyone to remedy that by putting their cell numbers on...
what now? A publicly available, national list of phone numbers? Real
smart.
> Hypocrite!!!
Yup, you've just described yourself pretty damn well.
> I have yet to receive telemarketing calls and
> spam of the sort that you fear.
If I remember correctly, it was YOU who feared telemarketers.
> Anyone with half a brain knows that the chances of
> the registry being sold is much-much less likely than
> the 411 directory.
Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.
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- 12-09-2004, 10:24 PM #5Simon TemplarGuest
Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information
Ivor Jones wrote:
> John Richards wrote:
>
>
>
> They call UK customers all the time..! Half the world's call centres are
> now in India it seems....
>
>
> Ivor
>
>
Many call centre for Australian businesses are located in India or Pakistan!
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73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
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- 12-09-2004, 10:27 PM #6Simon TemplarGuest
Re: Cell Phone - The National Do Not Call Registry - **Information
George wrote:
> "Protest" <protest@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
> news:sd%[email protected]...
>
>>And, what are you doing? Hypocrite!!!
>>
>>I have yet to receive telemarketing calls and
>>spam of the sort that you fear.
>>
>>Anyone with half a brain knows that the chances of
>>the registry being sold is much-much less likely than
>>the 411 directory.
>>
>>
>
> Exactly, the only reason there is a do not call list is that so many people
> asked the politicians we elected for such regulation. Any politician who
> would be silly enough to water it down would be out of a job in the next
> election.
>
>
Here in Australia we have no such laws and get phone calls and spam all
the time! That's why I tell them where to go, in the hope they wake up
and realise I am not interested in them.
They contacted me, so they can put up with what I have to say to them!
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73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
http://www.aca.gov.au/pls/radcom/cli...IENT_NO=157452
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