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- 10-08-2003, 05:37 AM #1RogGuest
Hi Group,
New to this group, a quick question regarding Nokia and Car Kits.
I work with a company who has 6 employees running company cars all fitted
with a car kit (hard wired type, not blue tooth) that fits our Nokia 6310i
phones.
We are all about to get new cars, but we have heard that the 6310i is the
last in the line of this type/shape/connection and our car kits will be
redundant.
We run with t mobile and our phone upgrades are a little restricted, can any
body shed some light on what new phone we should go for - we love the
functionality of the 6310i and dont need colour screens etc - any advice?
I like the looks of the 6610 but its not bluetooth, i figure that a
bluetooth car kit will allow us to be a little future proofed? as we have to
have the cars for 3 years - but typically phones dont run for this long.
Thanks in advance
Roger
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- 10-08-2003, 06:22 AM #2ArthurGuest
Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits
"Rog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Group,
>
> New to this group, a quick question regarding Nokia and Car Kits.
>
> I work with a company who has 6 employees running company cars all fitted
> with a car kit (hard wired type, not blue tooth) that fits our Nokia 6310i
> phones.
>
> We are all about to get new cars, but we have heard that the 6310i is the
> last in the line of this type/shape/connection and our car kits will be
> redundant.
>
> We run with t mobile and our phone upgrades are a little restricted, can
any
> body shed some light on what new phone we should go for - we love the
> functionality of the 6310i and dont need colour screens etc - any advice?
>
> I like the looks of the 6610 but its not bluetooth, i figure that a
> bluetooth car kit will allow us to be a little future proofed? as we have
to
> have the cars for 3 years - but typically phones dont run for this long.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Roger
Roger, I have exactly the same problem.
Had a 6210 with a car kit, changed my car 2 years ago and moved the car kit
across.
Replaced the 6210 with a 6310i a year ago, it works in the same car kit.
New car due next spring. If the 6310 is still available then, I will get a
new one and move the car kit across again.
If the 6310 is discontinued by then I will have the same question as you.
The 6310i is an *ideal* phone for business - sensible size with buttons you
can hit reliably, bluetooth to connect to laptop. Nokia would be wrong to
stop making it (but I'm sure they will)
- Arthur
- 10-08-2003, 07:45 AM #3Adam GreatrixGuest
Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits
"Rog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I work with a company who has 6 employees running company cars all fitted
> with a car kit (hard wired type, not blue tooth) that fits our Nokia 6310i
> phones.
>
> We are all about to get new cars, but we have heard that the 6310i is the
> last in the line of this type/shape/connection and our car kits will be
> redundant.
>
> We run with t mobile and our phone upgrades are a little restricted, can
any
> body shed some light on what new phone we should go for - we love the
> functionality of the 6310i and dont need colour screens etc - any advice?
>
> I like the looks of the 6610 but its not bluetooth, i figure that a
> bluetooth car kit will allow us to be a little future proofed? as we have
to
> have the cars for 3 years - but typically phones dont run for this long.
I upgraded from a 6310i as I liked all of the features it had, although
didn't need bluetooth with having IR for my needs. I also had the Cark 91.
When I upgraded it there were a couple of phones that did everything the
6310i did. These were the 7210 and 7250i. Both are great phones and have all
of the business features of the 6310i. Although Bluetooth may be useful as
you say, not all phones have it. And with other wireless technologies
surpassing the features of bluetooth in price, size, ease of use, security,
and with fewer compatibility problems, I feel that Bluetooth may well go the
same was as Betamax video and Video Laser Discs. From what I understand from
Nokia, all of their new 3, 6 and 7 series phones for the foreseeable future
will use the current connecter that the likes of the 7210 and 7250 use. This
is their new standard and will be supported well into the future, certainly
longer than 3 years.
The Cark 126 is the car kit that uses this new connecter type. Similar, but
updated, to the Cark 91 and seems just as reliable. The kit comes in
different parts when compared to the Cark 91. You will need the Cark 126
(the brain of the unit), the MBC-15S phone cradle (with the current standard
of connector mentioned above), and an AXF-15S antenna coupler. This setup
should work with 3100, 6100, 6220, 6610, 7210, 7250 and 7250i, plus any
future phone fitting this profile. Obviously Nokia will being out new phones
that will not fit in this cradle such as the 9 series which are always brick
shaped and sized.
Bluetooth is a great thing, but it consumes batteries and a lot of people
like the fact that when you put your phone into a car kit it charges it too,
this obviously doesn't happen with a bluetooth car kit unless you fit a
charging cradle or plug it into a charger. But if you're doing that why not
just get a cheaper and more reliable non-bluetooth car kit which charges?
However, Bluetooth does have the advantage that you don't have to fiddle
around getting your phone out of the case and putting it into the cradle and
vice versa each time you get in/out of your car. You're also less likely to
forget your phone and leave it in the cradle for all to steal in full view.
Having said all of that, if the 6310i does everything you want, and you
already have cark91s installed. Why change? The Cark91 can easily be removed
and put in your new cars...
Adam
- 10-08-2003, 08:22 AM #4Olaf PeussGuest
Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits
"Arthur" wrote:
> The 6310i is an *ideal* phone for business - sensible size with buttons
> you can hit reliably, bluetooth to connect to laptop. Nokia would be
> wrong to stop making it (but I'm sure they will)
100% ACK. Eventually, however, every phone model will be discontinued, even
the most successful one. That's just what happens in hightech industries
such as mobile phone manufacturing: product cycles decrease at a pace faster
than the speed of light. :-)
Hopefully Nokia will be sensible enough to continue the enormously
successful 6110-6310i series with a business phone that doesn't make all the
hitherto purchased accessories utterly redundant.
Kind regards,
Olaf
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- 10-09-2003, 01:19 AM #5Adam GreatrixGuest
Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits
Oh yeah, 2 other points about Bluetooth car kits which you may want to bare
in mind is that it will connect to your paired phone every time you turn the
ignition on. If you want to have a private conversation or use the phone
without the car kit when you're in your car you have to diconnect it
manually.
Also, and this is a quit important in my opinion, as far as I know (and
someone feel free to correct me here if I'm wrong) there's no external
aerial connection for the Bluetooth car kit. There is a connection for a
charging lead on the Bluetooth phone holder (if you decide to use a holder
that is), but no aerial connection.
It may be possible the Bluetooth kits for the newer phones can be used with
a seperate antenna coupler in the same way as you do with the wired kits.
However, I'm basing this on the Nokia Bluetooth kit I've seen for a 6310i
which, if it worked like the Cark 91 should have had an antenna connection.
Someone want to confirm or deny this?
Adam
- 10-09-2003, 01:54 AM #6Dolphin BoyGuest
Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits
"Olaf Peuss" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Arthur" wrote:
>
> > The 6310i is an *ideal* phone for business - sensible size with
buttons
> > you can hit reliably, bluetooth to connect to laptop. Nokia would
be
> > wrong to stop making it (but I'm sure they will)
>
> 100% ACK. Eventually, however, every phone model will be
discontinued, even
> the most successful one. That's just what happens in hightech
industries
> such as mobile phone manufacturing: product cycles decrease at a
pace faster
> than the speed of light. :-)
> Hopefully Nokia will be sensible enough to continue the enormously
> successful 6110-6310i series with a business phone that doesn't make
all the
> hitherto purchased accessories utterly redundant.
>
Bring back the 7110!!! ;-) a 6210 with style!
- 10-09-2003, 03:58 AM #7RogGuest
Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits
Thank You People, Will update if I find the right answer!
"Rog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi Group,
>
> New to this group, a quick question regarding Nokia and Car Kits.
>
> I work with a company who has 6 employees running company cars all fitted
> with a car kit (hard wired type, not blue tooth) that fits our Nokia 6310i
> phones.
>
> We are all about to get new cars, but we have heard that the 6310i is the
> last in the line of this type/shape/connection and our car kits will be
> redundant.
>
> We run with t mobile and our phone upgrades are a little restricted, can
any
> body shed some light on what new phone we should go for - we love the
> functionality of the 6310i and dont need colour screens etc - any advice?
>
> I like the looks of the 6610 but its not bluetooth, i figure that a
> bluetooth car kit will allow us to be a little future proofed? as we have
to
> have the cars for 3 years - but typically phones dont run for this long.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Roger
>
>
- 10-09-2003, 09:04 AM #8Adam GreatrixGuest
Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits
"Dolphin Boy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Bring back the 7110!!! ;-) a 6210 with style!
I know - that roller was great - some people seemed to have problems with it
breaking though - although I had one for years and had no problems at all!
Adam
- 10-10-2003, 05:30 AM #9GGuest
Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits
"Adam Greatrix" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Oh yeah, 2 other points about Bluetooth car kits which you may want to
bare
> in mind is that it will connect to your paired phone every time you turn
the
> ignition on. If you want to have a private conversation or use the phone
> without the car kit when you're in your car you have to diconnect it
> manually.
>
> Also, and this is a quit important in my opinion, as far as I know (and
> someone feel free to correct me here if I'm wrong) there's no external
> aerial connection for the Bluetooth car kit. There is a connection for a
> charging lead on the Bluetooth phone holder (if you decide to use a holder
> that is), but no aerial connection.
>
> It may be possible the Bluetooth kits for the newer phones can be used
with
> a seperate antenna coupler in the same way as you do with the wired kits.
> However, I'm basing this on the Nokia Bluetooth kit I've seen for a 6310i
> which, if it worked like the Cark 91 should have had an antenna
connection.
> Someone want to confirm or deny this?
Yep, no aerial. However, I've not really had problems with this 'cause
coverage is pretty comprehensive on Orange. Big downside if coverage is poor
though (can you get separate antennas to compensate??).
Regarding the private conversation side of things, you can set the BT on the
phone to not be discoverable, this way the phone won't connect by default at
ignition time, but you'd then have to connect to the kit manually. Just an
option. My favourite thing with the BT kit is when you start a call, get in
the car, connect to the kit and carry on talking, get where you're going,
disconnect from the kit and head off, without a break/interruption in the
conversation or having to fiddle around too much.
- 10-10-2003, 12:58 PM #10Ivor JonesGuest
Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits
"G" <cool_and_funky@*-nospamthanks_*yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Regarding the private conversation side of things, you can set the BT on
the
> phone to not be discoverable, this way the phone won't connect by
default at
> ignition time, but you'd then have to connect to the kit manually. Just
an
> option. My favourite thing with the BT kit is when you start a call,
get in
> the car, connect to the kit and carry on talking, get where you're
going,
> disconnect from the kit and head off, without a break/interruption in
the
> conversation or having to fiddle around too much.
You can do this with the CARK-91 as well, if you're in a call when you put
the phone in the cradle, it goes to handsfree. Take it out and it's back
to the phone. The CARK-91 also has the option of using the HSU-1 external
handset, which is useful if a passenger wants to use the phone, as they're
rarely close enough to the car kit mike to get a good audio level.
Plus it has the external aerial (not antenna please, an antenna is one
half of what an insect has on its head..!) socket, and it will charge the
battery..!
Don't much like Bluetooth, have used it but prefer hard wired connections,
much more reliable in my experience.
Ivor
- 10-10-2003, 01:27 PM #11Adam GreatrixGuest
Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits
"Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Plus it has the external aerial (not antenna please, an antenna is one
> half of what an insect has on its head..!) socket, and it will charge the
> battery..!
But then "aerial" means rising aloft in the air, such as an aerial platform
(ok, not a noun)...
Seriously though, I've always wondered what the specific difference between
an aerial and an antenna is - one maybe more American and one more British?
I've been messing around with CB, Amateur Radio, Scanners and other radio
equipment for over two decades and this has never been made clear.
My dictionaries say for antenna:
"A metallic apparatus for sending or receiving electromagnetic waves."
and
"sends or receives radio or television signals"
and for aerial:
"A radio antenna, especially one suspended in or extending into the air."
So given just that information, one could argue that as the aerial/antennas
on Nokia phones these days aren't exactly "suspended or extending into the
air" that "antenna" would be more accurate.
Both "antenna" and "aerial" have other meanings as do many words such as
lead (metal) and lead (connecting wire), tear (crying) or tear (rip), live
(live band) and live (staying alive).
Adam
- 10-11-2003, 11:50 AM #12Group Special MobileGuest
Re: Nokia 6310i and Car Kits
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:27:33 +0100, "Adam Greatrix"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Seriously though, I've always wondered what the specific difference between
>an aerial and an antenna is - one maybe more American and one more British?
That's the exact difference. Aerial in the UK antenna in the US.
Bonnet in the UK hood in the US. Torch in the UK flashlight in the
US.
Nokia handsets have different menus depending on the country between
the UK and US versions. UK version handsets have call register US
versions have call log. UK versions have call diversion, US version
has call forwarding.
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