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- 11-10-2003, 05:00 PM #1Bob SmithGuest
Thought this might be of some interest to some of you souls out there ...
Bob
http://tinyurl.com/ugk7
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- 11-10-2003, 05:07 PM #2DSL GURUGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
Washington, D.C. â The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) today
reaffirmed that wireline carriers must port numbers to wireless carriers under
its current rules. The Order provides guidance to the wireless and wireline
industries on issues related to âintermodalâ local number portability
(LNP), i.e., the ability of customers to switch from a wireline carrier to a
wireless carrier, or from a wireless to a wireline carrier, without changing
telephone numbers. In a Memorandum Opinion and Order (Order) and Further
Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (Further Notice), the FCC clarified that porting
from a wireline carrier to a wireless carrier is required where the requesting
wireless carrierâs coverage area overlaps the geographic location in which
the wireline number is provisioned, including cases where the wireless carrier
does not have a point of interconnection or numbering resources in the rate
center to which the phone number is assigned. The FCC also sought comment on
how to facilitate wireless-to-wireline porting in cases where the rate center
associated with the wireless number is different from the rate center in which
the wireline carrier seeks to serve the customer. Finally, the FCC sought
comment on whether to reduce the duration of the porting interval for ports
between wireline and wireless carriers.
Todayâs order follows up on a prior order released by the FCC on October 7,
2003, that addressed similar issues with respect to the implementation of
wireless-to-wireless LNP. Under Commission rules, wireless carriers in the 100
largest metropolitan statistical areas (MSAs) must begin supporting LNP on
November 24, 2003, which will enable consumers to begin both
wireless-to-wireless and intermodal porting in those markets. A list of these
MSAs can be found on the FCCâs website at
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...-240702A3.pdf.
A ârate centerâ is the geographic area served by a wireline carrierâs
central office switch, and is used to determine the rating of calls to and from
that switch as local or toll calls. Blocks of telephone numbers used by both
wireline and wireless carriers are assigned to particular rate centers.
However, while wireline local exchange carriers (LECs) have numbering resources
in most rate centers, wireless carriers, because of the nature of their
networks, typically do not, but instead serve customers over a wider geographic
area from a single rate center in that area.
Todayâs Order requires wireline carriers to port phone numbers to wireless
carriers in cases where the wireless carrierâs coverage area â the area in
which wireless service can be received from that carrier â overlaps the rate
center in which the wireline phone number is assigned, provided that the
wireless carrier maintains the numberâs original rate center designation
following the port.
Wireline carriers operating in the 100 largest MSAs must support
wireline-to-wireless number porting in accordance with todayâs order by
November 24, 2003
- 11-10-2003, 05:41 PM #3Scott StephensonGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
DSL GURU wrote:
<Snipped the unnecessary post>
Thanks, Phil- I was way too lazy to open the link.
- 11-10-2003, 06:00 PM #4Bob SmithGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
"Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> DSL GURU wrote:
>
> <Snipped the unnecessary post>
>
> Thanks, Phil- I was way too lazy to open the link.
In addition Phillipe, don't copy and paste the text. Your AOL newsreader
sucks by putting in unreadable symbols for punctuation.
Bob
- 11-11-2003, 12:11 AM #5Jerome ZelinskeGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
What about the people who want to drop their wireless service and
add a additional land line?
Bob Smith wrote:
> Thought this might be of some interest to some of you souls out there ...
>
> Bob
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ugk7
>
>
- 11-11-2003, 03:37 PM #6John RichardsGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
Jerome Zelinske wrote:
> What about the people who want to drop their wireless service and
> add a additional land line?
That would be difficult to implement. For example, my wireless number is actually
based in a city that is 20 miles away, since SprintPCS doesn't have exchange numbers
for my home town.
--
John Richards
- 11-11-2003, 06:01 PM #7Jerome ZelinskeGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
Sounds like you must have moved after you got Sprint PCS service.
John Richards wrote:
> Jerome Zelinske wrote:
>
>> What about the people who want to drop their wireless service and
>>add a additional land line?
>
>
> That would be difficult to implement. For example, my wireless number is actually
> based in a city that is 20 miles away, since SprintPCS doesn't have exchange numbers
> for my home town.
>
- 11-11-2003, 06:24 PM #8John R. CopelandGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
"John Richards" <[email protected]> wrote in message =
news:[email protected]...
> Jerome Zelinske wrote:
> > What about the people who want to drop their wireless service =
and
> > add a additional land line?
>=20
> That would be difficult to implement. For example, my wireless number =
is actually
> based in a city that is 20 miles away, since SprintPCS doesn't have =
exchange numbers
> for my home town.
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> --=20
> John Richards
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I thought I read that the FCC is soliciting suggestions on how to do =
that.
---JRC---
- 11-13-2003, 10:13 AM #9Floyd in TampaGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
After reading all the links I still have questions:
1. If I want all my home phone calls "ported" to my cell phone, that is
possible, but do I have to change my cell # to my home phone #, or will I be
able to get cell calls by dialing either # ?
2. If I can get all my home phone calls ported to my cell phone #, can I
then cancel the home phone line and still have the calls ported?
3. If I can cancel my old home phone and have all the calls ported to my
cell, will there be a fee from the old home phone company to forward the
calls?
Verizon(home) / SprintPCS(cell)
- 11-13-2003, 10:48 AM #10Bob SmithGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
Hey Floyd ...
At this time, I personally wouldn't convert my landline to my wireless. As
much as I have great service through SPCS, it still doesn't match the
landline, with the capability to fax, do DSL (no, I don't have DSL right
now), and other capabilities. In saying that, answers are interspersed below
....
"Floyd in Tampa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> After reading all the links I still have questions:
>
> 1. If I want all my home phone calls "ported" to my cell phone, that is
> possible, but do I have to change my cell # to my home phone #, or will I
be
> able to get cell calls by dialing either # ?
I'm guessing that you'd have to lose the cellular phone number. Don't know
for a fact, but I don't think it's possible for our phones to utilize two
different phone numbers.
>
> 2. If I can get all my home phone calls ported to my cell phone #, can I
> then cancel the home phone line and still have the calls ported?
Yes, that's what wireline to wireless means.
>
> 3. If I can cancel my old home phone and have all the calls ported to my
> cell, will there be a fee from the old home phone company to forward the
> calls?
>
Shouldn't be ... as the landline carrier would be out of the loop.
One last thing you might want to consider is what I do now, regarding my
landline. I use call forwarding to forward all landline calls to my SPCS
phone. I work out of my home, have three lines, one for incoming calls with
an 800 # tagged onto it. Call forwarding is on this line.
A second line is for incoming and outgoing faxes, and a third line for my
wife & daughter to use.
> Verizon(home) / SprintPCS(cell)
Bob
- 11-13-2003, 11:20 AM #11John RichardsGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
Nope. Haven't moved in the last 25 years.
SprintPCS doesn't have local exchange numbers for every town
that has service.
--
John Richards
Jerome Zelinske wrote:
> Sounds like you must have moved after you got Sprint PCS service.
>
> John Richards wrote:
>> Jerome Zelinske wrote:
>>
>>> What about the people who want to drop their wireless service and
>>> add a additional land line?
>>
>>
>> That would be difficult to implement. For example, my wireless number is actually
>> based in a city that is 20 miles away, since SprintPCS doesn't have exchange numbers
>> for my home town.
- 11-13-2003, 11:34 PM #12O/SirisGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
In article <15Osb.29222$YO3.5306
@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com>, Floyd in=20
[email protected] says...
> After reading all the links I still have questions:
>=20
> 1. If I want all my home phone calls "ported" to my cell phone, that is
> possible, but do I have to change my cell # to my home phone #, or will I=
be
> able to get cell calls by dialing either # ?
>=20
> 2. If I can get all my home phone calls ported to my cell phone #, can I
> then cancel the home phone line and still have the calls ported?
>=20
> 3. If I can cancel my old home phone and have all the calls ported to my
> cell, will there be a fee from the old home phone company to forward the
> calls?
>=20
> Verizon(home) / SprintPCS(cell)
Based on the above questions, there appears to be a basic=20
misunderstanding about what porting really is. Think of it=20
somewhat like switching banks. You're not just moving=20
money to another location, you're actually taking your=20
business to another company, and leaving the other behind=20
completely. For all practical purposes, that's what you do=20
with your phone number when you port it under these new=20
regulations. Your home phone, if you port it, ceases to be=20
a Verizon number, ceases even to be a home phone number any=20
longer, and becomes a cellular number with whatever carrier=20
you choose.
Let's just say that, as an example, 212-123-4567 was your=20
Verizon phone number at home. You decide to port it to=20
SPCS. You set up a calling plan, you buy a phone, you=20
agree to a contract, just as if you're purchasing a whole=20
new subscription. For SPCS, the only difference is that=20
the number has already been decided upon by the act of=20
porting. Verizon, in the meantime, deactivates your home=20
line, finalizes your account with them, and the line to=20
which 212-123-4567 was attached is no longer active. Now=20
all calls to 212-123-4567 get directed to SPCS, and then to=20
the cell phone you set up for that number.
I personally haven't been trained up on WLNP, so there are=20
details in that process that I don't know yet, but what I=20
state above is the "meat'n bones" of the process.
--=20
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R=D8=DF
O/Siris
I work for SprintPCS
I *don't* speak for them.
- 11-13-2003, 11:59 PM #13Jerome ZelinskeGuest
Re: FCC Approves Home-To-Cell Number Rule
I was under the impression that one could only sign up for Sprint
PCS service if they had local numbers for your address. Although I
understand that could very well be true in some places they do not, I do
not know of any directly. However, number pooling may lead to much
better availability of exchanges to all carriers. I am lucky as the
entire area code is a local call here.
John Richards wrote:
> Nope. Haven't moved in the last 25 years.
> SprintPCS doesn't have local exchange numbers for every town
> that has service.
>
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