Oops, your bill has an extra charge

We all know that AT&T is worst at porting, SprintPCS is worst at
Customer Service and T-Mobile is worst in coverage, but has anyone run a
survey as to who has the most "oops" on the bill ?

Strange, but when billing "errors" occur its always in the companies
favor.

Bonus minutes not credited
Free activation charged for
Free roaming charged for anyway
Free Internet Connectivity charged for
Free nights charged for

or whatever mistake was made. Sure if you argue enough they'll correct
your bill, but it happens month after month and always in the companies
favor. Internet Providers and Cable companies are also adding oops
charges all too frequently.

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"James" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We all know that AT&T is worst at porting, SprintPCS is worst at
> Customer Service and T-Mobile is worst in coverage, but has anyone run a
> survey as to who has the most "oops" on the bill ?
>
> Strange, but when billing "errors" occur its always in the companies
> favor.
>
> Bonus minutes not credited
> Free activation charged for
> Free roaming charged for anyway
> Free Internet Connectivity charged for
> Free nights charged for
>
> or whatever mistake was made. Sure if you argue enough they'll correct
> your bill, but it happens month after month and always in the companies
> favor. Internet Providers and Cable companies are also adding oops
> charges all too frequently.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2wzlv

And it goes on and on and on ... #51 on Phillipe's ID list ... When the hell
are you going to do a straight ID Phillipe ...

Bob

"James" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> We all know that AT&T is worst at porting, SprintPCS is worst at
> Customer Service and T-Mobile is worst in coverage, but has anyone run a
> survey as to who has the most "oops" on the bill ?
>

Funny- it would appear that ATT is the worst in all three categories lately,
Phil. You really screwed the pooch when you changed carriers. Sprint may
have its problems, but ATT is now appears to have inherited a bunch of
problems (just read the posts).

> Strange, but when billing "errors" occur its always in the companies
> favor.
>
> Bonus minutes not credited
> Free activation charged for
> Free roaming charged for anyway
> Free Internet Connectivity charged for
> Free nights charged for
>
> or whatever mistake was made. Sure if you argue enough they'll correct
> your bill, but it happens month after month and always in the companies
> favor. Internet Providers and Cable companies are also adding oops
> charges all too frequently.
>

So do car dealers, grocery stores, department stores, landline telephone
companies, and the government, to name just a few more. My point is- what
the hell is your point, other than to be an idiot troll? We get screwed by
many more business entities than cellular, and in 99% of the cases where
they do make a mistake, they correct it on the spot and it never happens
again.

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 00:20:30 GMT, James <[email protected]> wrote:

<snip>


We all know these things? Perhaps. Perhaps not. You are still
trolling Phillip and you are doing it in true crossposting style.
Please go away unless you have something positive to contribute (have
you ever?).

Tom Veldhouse

In article <[email protected]>,
Thomas T. Veldhouse <[email protected]> wrote:

> Please go away unless you have something positive to contribute (have
> you ever?).
>
> Tom Veldhouse

When did you become the moderator of all of USENET ?

Sorry, I post when I want to, and if SprintPCS is guilty of oops charges
then it gets posted.

Luckily folks can call *2 and say "Dropped Call Credit".

"James", aka Phil, the Village Idiot <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Thomas T. Veldhouse <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Please go away unless you have something positive to contribute (have
> > you ever?).
> >
> > Tom Veldhouse
>
> When did you become the moderator of all of USENET ?
>
> Sorry, I post when I want to, and if SprintPCS is guilty of oops charges
> then it gets posted.
>
> Luckily folks can call *2 and say "Dropped Call Credit".


Yeah- you've are so smart- that's why you've switched to the carrier with
the worst Customer Service in the industry.

This sort of thing is why letting utilities "auto suck" what they think you
owe them out of your checking account or off of a credit card. Then it's
YOUR problem to straighten out, rather than just refusing to pay. This
direct pay idea has to be put to death.

"James" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Thomas T. Veldhouse <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Please go away unless you have something positive to contribute (have
> > you ever?).
> >
> > Tom Veldhouse
>
> When did you become the moderator of all of USENET ?
>
> Sorry, I post when I want to, and if SprintPCS is guilty of oops charges
> then it gets posted.
>
> Luckily folks can call *2 and say "Dropped Call Credit".

On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:33:49 GMT, James <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> Thomas T. Veldhouse <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Please go away unless you have something positive to contribute (have
>> you ever?).
>>
>> Tom Veldhouse
>
>When did you become the moderator of all of USENET ?
>
>Sorry, I post when I want to, and if SprintPCS is guilty of oops charges
>then it gets posted.
>
>Luckily folks can call *2 and say "Dropped Call Credit".


Moderator of all (or any) USENET, no. But ... IN YOUR FACE ASSHOLE!
You need a good work over, and unfortunately for the rest of us, it
has not yet happened. It is clear that you post when you want to,
whether or not there is anything of real value to post.

What was the point of mentioning the "Dropped Call Credit"? I suspect
you are simply again attempting to drag down Sprint PCS, as it clearly
does not fix any billing errors, which is what you were supposedly
posting about.

Tom Veldhouse

In article <[email protected]>,
"-" <[email protected]> wrote:

> This sort of thing is why letting utilities "auto suck" what they think you
> owe them out of your checking account or off of a credit card. Then it's
> YOUR problem to straighten out, rather than just refusing to pay. This
> direct pay idea has to be put to death.



Amen to that.

In alt.cellular - <[email protected]> wrote:
> This sort of thing is why letting utilities "auto suck" what they think you
> owe them out of your checking account or off of a credit card. Then it's
> YOUR problem to straighten out, rather than just refusing to pay. This
> direct pay idea has to be put to death.

Or people could just avoid using direct-pay; it IS a horrible idea for
services where the monthly invoice amount varies.

--
JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
Steve Sobol, Geek In Charge * 888.480.4NET (4638) * [email protected]

Yeah. My German friend kept bemoaning how we Americans are so backwards and
still have bills sent out and checks sent back. Then he came to realize how
it works here. Now he agrees with me. In Germany, any direct pay you
disagree with is automatically refunded to you and it's up to the biller to
do something about it.

"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In alt.cellular - <[email protected]> wrote:
> > This sort of thing is why letting utilities "auto suck" what they think
you
> > owe them out of your checking account or off of a credit card. Then it's
> > YOUR problem to straighten out, rather than just refusing to pay. This
> > direct pay idea has to be put to death.
>
> Or people could just avoid using direct-pay; it IS a horrible idea for
> services where the monthly invoice amount varies.
>
> --
> JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
> 22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
> Steve Sobol, Geek In Charge * 888.480.4NET (4638) * [email protected]
>

In alt.cellular - <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah. My German friend kept bemoaning how we Americans are so backwards and
> still have bills sent out and checks sent back. Then he came to realize how
> it works here. Now he agrees with me. In Germany, any direct pay you
> disagree with is automatically refunded to you and it's up to the biller to
> do something about it.

.... which is the way Americans do it with credit cards. Whichever flaming
idiots decided that it shouldn't be the same way with checking accounts and
the debit cards with the Visa and MC logos should simply be pistol-whipped.

Y'all do realize that you have basically no recourse that allows for
instant credit on a dispute on a Check Card, right?

On many credit cards, including the one I carry, if there is a dispute,
you are credited instantly and only rebilled if the dispute is decided in
the merchant's favor.

--
JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
Steve Sobol, Geek In Charge * 888.480.4NET (4638) * [email protected]

Is this the kind of conversation we want on
alt.cellular.sprintpcs,
alt.cellular,
alt.cellular.attws
>Thomas Veldhouse wrote
>Moderator of all (or any) USENET, no. But ... IN YOUR FACE ASSHOLE!
>You need a good work over, and unfortunately for the rest of us, it
>has not yet happened. It is clear that you post when you want to,
>whether or not there is anything of real value to post.
>
>Tom Veldhouse

Is this a threat? Abuse meant to "harm"?

Time to let [email protected] know
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Xtrace DXC=RgO<^fiJbb9g\`E:Uh<Gi1`Xn0Zg>Eal6hD30Xm`l_b8decZF][6436WJ^_S8@<1Y4df;J;K[dcf3

The path goes through USwest.net in Minneapolis MN.

Qwestdex.com has a listing for him.

On 14 Jan 2004 11:02:29 -0800, [email protected] (x-ray)
wrote:

>Is this the kind of conversation we want on
> alt.cellular.sprintpcs,
> alt.cellular,
> alt.cellular.attws
>>Thomas Veldhouse wrote
>>Moderator of all (or any) USENET, no. But ... IN YOUR FACE ASSHOLE!
>>You need a good work over, and unfortunately for the rest of us, it
>>has not yet happened. It is clear that you post when you want to,
>>whether or not there is anything of real value to post.
>>
>>Tom Veldhouse
>
>Is this a threat? Abuse meant to "harm"?
>
>Time to let [email protected] know
>Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>
>Xtrace DXC=RgO<^fiJbb9g\`E:Uh<Gi1`Xn0Zg>Eal6hD30Xm`l_b8decZF][6436WJ^_S8@<1Y4df;J;K[dcf3
>
>The path goes through USwest.net in Minneapolis MN.
>
>Qwestdex.com has a listing for him.


Heh, good luck. It is actively monitored, so you should get a
response quickly. Please send my condolences, as I am sorry that they
may have to deal with this clown.

Tom Veldhouse