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- 11-08-2004, 06:25 PM #1GeorgeGuest
I've pasted their plan below. Are they basically saying in a
smartphone it's $15 a month but if it's on a PDA (PPC or Palm) then
it's $30 a month. I did ask that without the extra 15$ you use THEIR
email address they give you [email protected] but if you want to POP3
to your own ISP you have to pay the extra $15.
Can you get unlimited access on PDA for $15.
I really like the T-Mobiles plans but they don't have quite the area
coverage I need.
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- 11-08-2004, 07:14 PM #2Help PCSGuest
Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans
[email protected] (George) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> Are they basically saying in a smartphone it's $15 a month
> but if it's on a PDA (PPC or Palm) then it's $30 a month.
It's $15/month for any Palm-based phone (or non Pocket PC
phone). It's $30/month for a Pocket PC-based phone (or
$15/month if your service plan is $100 or higher). The
reasoning is that a Pocket PC-based phone acts more like a
laptop computer and would download more data than other
phones.
- 11-08-2004, 11:43 PM #3John RichardsGuest
Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans
"Help PCS" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> It's $15/month for any Palm-based phone (or non Pocket PC
> phone). It's $30/month for a Pocket PC-based phone (or
> $15/month if your service plan is $100 or higher). The
> reasoning is that a Pocket PC-based phone acts more like a
> laptop computer and would download more data than other
> phones.
Is there any rationale for believing that a Pocket PC-based phone
would download much more data than a Palm-based phone?
It's just a different OS, right?
--
John Richards
- 11-09-2004, 12:43 AM #4=?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?=Guest
Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans
In article <[email protected]>, jr70
@blackhole.invalid says...
> Is there any rationale for believing that a Pocket PC-based phone
> would download much more data than a Palm-based phone?
> It's just a different OS, right?
>=20
Not really. The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser. =
=20
It has limitations. Not as much as a "pure" phone, but still=20
significantly more so than a laptop. A PocketPC, or even the Windows=20
SmartPhone, they have PocketIE. It really *is* an HTML browser. Maybe=20
not all the DHTML, or Javascript, or some of the other goodies, but it's=20
still far more of a browser akin to what you have on a PC than what=20
comes on a Palm. So yeah, based on usage Sprint saw with the original=20
PocketPC phone, the Toshiba "Thera" 2032 (which is still for sale,=20
interestingly, or pathetically, depending on your opinion), Sprint saw=20
Windows-style PDA's using significantly more data.
--=20
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
~+~
A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be.
Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
but moderation in principle is always a vice.
Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792
- 11-09-2004, 01:08 AM #5Steve SobolGuest
Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans
O/Siris wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, jr70
> @blackhole.invalid says...
>
>>Is there any rationale for believing that a Pocket PC-based phone
>>would download much more data than a Palm-based phone?
>>It's just a different OS, right?
>>
>
>
> Not really. The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser.
> It has limitations. Not as much as a "pure" phone, but still
> significantly more so than a laptop. A PocketPC, or even the Windows
> SmartPhone, they have PocketIE. It really *is* an HTML browser.
So Rob... You *are* billing Sprint each time you answer a question here, right?
Just tell 'em to 1099 you at the end of the year
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- 11-09-2004, 01:08 PM #6Kyler LairdGuest
Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans
=?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?= <0siris@sprîntpcs.côm> writes:
>The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser.
Blazer is just a WAP browser?!
Does that mean I have to stop using it on HTML?
--kyler
- 11-10-2004, 02:36 PM #7John RichardsGuest
Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans
"Kyler Laird" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> =?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?= <0siris@sprîntpcs.côm> writes:
>
>>The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser.
>
> Blazer is just a WAP browser?!
>
> Does that mean I have to stop using it on HTML?
This is what I was getting at. A competent OS will run any software
written for it, and there's no reason to run only a limited browser
just because the OS is Palm.
Is this another situation where Sprint can't see farther than the
length of its nose?
--
John Richards
- 11-10-2004, 06:08 PM #8Kyler LairdGuest
Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans
"John Richards" <[email protected]> writes:
>"Kyler Laird" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> =?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?= <0siris@sprîntpcs.côm> writes:
>>
>>>The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser.
>>
>> Blazer is just a WAP browser?!
>>
>> Does that mean I have to stop using it on HTML?
>This is what I was getting at. A competent OS will run any software
>written for it, and there's no reason to run only a limited browser
>just because the OS is Palm.
But the *only* browser I got on my Palm phone from SprintPCS
was Blazer. There's no "limited browser" issue that I see.
>Is this another situation where Sprint can't see farther than the
>length of its nose?
I don't get it. Are you thinking that they don't know that
they ship an HTML browser with their Palm phones?
--kyler
- 11-10-2004, 08:44 PM #9GeorgeGuest
Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans
Kyler Laird <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> =?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?= <0siris@sprîntpcs.côm> writes:
>
> >The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser.
>
> Blazer is just a WAP browser?!
>
> Does that mean I have to stop using it on HTML?
>
> --kyler
What's to prevent me from signing up with a cheap phone and then
buying a pocket pc phone to replace it. Do CDMA phones use SIM chips
or simular, how hard is it to switch. I don't expect to download a lot
of data. I just don't want to pay for $30.00 month because some folks
may have abused it.
- 11-11-2004, 12:59 AM #10John RichardsGuest
Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans
"Kyler Laird" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "John Richards" <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>"Kyler Laird" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>>> =?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?= <0siris@sprîntpcs.côm> writes:
>>>
>>>>The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser.
>>>
>>> Blazer is just a WAP browser?!
>>>
>>> Does that mean I have to stop using it on HTML?
>
>>This is what I was getting at. A competent OS will run any software
>>written for it, and there's no reason to run only a limited browser
>>just because the OS is Palm.
>
> But the *only* browser I got on my Palm phone from SprintPCS
> was Blazer. There's no "limited browser" issue that I see.
>
>>Is this another situation where Sprint can't see farther than the
>>length of its nose?
>
> I don't get it. Are you thinking that they don't know that
> they ship an HTML browser with their Palm phones?
I wasn't specifically commenting on the HTML vs WAP browser aspect.
My comment was regarding O/Siris' claim that a Palm device can't
download nearly as much data as a Pocket PC device.
--
John Richards
- 11-11-2004, 05:24 AM #11Jerome ZelinskeGuest
Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans
Sprint PCS phones do not use sims. When you call Sprint PCS to
activate your pocket pc phone they will know it is a pocket pc phone and
charge you the $30 for Vision, unless you tell them that you do not want
a Vision plan and are willing to pay the per kilobyte rate.
- 11-11-2004, 12:31 PM #12CentralGuest
Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 06:59:59 +0000, John Richards wrote:
>
> I wasn't specifically commenting on the HTML vs WAP browser aspect.
> My comment was regarding O/Siris' claim that a Palm device can't
> download nearly as much data as a Pocket PC device.
Actually O/Siris was relaying what sprintpcs claimed. Also that claim
involved a point when palm's had a wap browser standard while
wince/pocket pc/etc.. through its versions has had a form of IE. It is a
pretty empty claim but I'm sure sprintpcs had their reasons.
- 11-14-2004, 01:15 AM #13=?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?=Guest
Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> So Rob... You *are* billing Sprint each time you answer a question here, =
right?=20
> Just tell 'em to 1099 you at the end of the year
>=20
Nah. I just think of the stunned silence Sprint reps give these people=20
after they call in with more information than the resp have, and I call=20
the entertainment value an even trade
--=20
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
~+~
A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be.
Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
but moderation in principle is always a vice.
Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792
- 11-14-2004, 01:15 AM #14=?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?=Guest
Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans
In article <[email protected]>, jr70
@blackhole.invalid says...
> "Kyler Laird" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:ubt662-bv6.ln=
[email protected]...
> > =3D?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?=3D <0siris@spr=EEntpcs.c=F4m> writes:
> >
> >>The browser built in to Palm phones is still a WAP browser.
> >
> > Blazer is just a WAP browser?!
> >
> > Does that mean I have to stop using it on HTML?
>=20
> This is what I was getting at. A competent OS will run any software
> written for it, and there's no reason to run only a limited browser
> just because the OS is Palm.
>=20
> Is this another situation where Sprint can't see farther than the
> length of its nose?
>=20
>=20
Blazer is a WAP browser. But, also, Sprint has installed a kind of=20
"interpreter" server in between that attempts to translate into WAP=20
whenever an HTML page comes in. Don't remember what SPCS called it. It=20
also does web clipping, and image compression.
There's no reason not to try an HTML page. Plus, it's a Palm OS at=20
heart, so if you find an HTML browser, there's no reason not to install=20
it. The costing is simply based on the software already built into the=20
respective OS's.
--=20
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
~+~
A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be.
Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
but moderation in principle is always a vice.
Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792
- 11-14-2004, 01:15 AM #15=?ISO-8859-15?Q?O/Siris?=Guest
Re: Confused by Sprints internet plans
In article <[email protected]>, jr70
@blackhole.invalid says...
> I wasn't specifically commenting on the HTML vs WAP browser aspect.
> My comment was regarding O/Siris' claim that a Palm device can't
> download nearly as much data as a Pocket PC device.
>=20
My comment was about observed usage. Not about technical capabilities.
--=20
R=D8=DF
O/Siris
~+~
A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be.
Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
but moderation in principle is always a vice.
Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792
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