A good article on nation wide coverage; suggesting it ain't always what you think.

And this article does imply that they think that sprint and verizon lead the
pack. But of course it "depends. Also below is an expanded carrier chart,
almost as good as mountain wireless: dr.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3504_7-...ml?tag=nl.e501
Answering the question "When is nationwide coverage, not nationwide?

And this was kool as well, the expanded carrier chart, comparing all
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-7609_7-...1.html?tag=txt

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› See More: A good article on nation wide coverage; suggesting it ain't always what you think.

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected]am says...
> And this article does imply that they think that sprint and verizon lead the
> pack. But of course it "depends. Also below is an expanded carrier chart,
> almost as good as mountain wireless: dr.
>
Only because both Sprint and Verizon's national coverage includes analog
roaming. Pull that and both their coverage drops drastically especially
Sprint's. Looking at the maps for digital only coverage I'd say
Cingular is quite a bit ahead although their national map is a bit
premature since it clearly includes some roamer partners to be GSM that
haven't converted yet. My Cingular GAIT plan with both GSM and TDMA
blows them all out of the water for digital coverage, plus it also has
analog roaming, however technically the article is correct since
Cingular no longer officially offers a plan with roaming off GSM (got to
be the stupidest decision ever made by a wireless company)--someone off
the street would have no way of knowing the GAIT option can be added to
the current plans for use with used GAIT phones.
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If you have a Sprint PCS phone that has an analog mode, Sprint PCS's
roaming includes analog, but Sprint PCS's coverage is all PCS and all
digital.
If you have a verizon phone that has an analog mode, a very small part
of verizon's coverage is still analog, and you could utilize verizon's
analog roaming, what little there is of it.

Jud Hardcastle wrote:
> Only because both Sprint and Verizon's national coverage includes analog
> roaming.

Somewhere I got the impression that Sprint doesn't have analog *anything*,
doesn't even have analog capability in most of their phones. Is that wrong?

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Jud Hardcastle wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected]am says...
>
>>And this article does imply that they think that sprint and verizon lead the
>>pack. But of course it "depends. Also below is an expanded carrier chart,
>>almost as good as mountain wireless: dr.
>>
>
> Only because both Sprint and Verizon's national coverage includes analog
> roaming.

That characterization was never made on the article, and Sprint and
Verizon clearly define the differences between on-network and roaming
(in fact, the rumbling is that Verizon pretty much prevents its phones
from roaming at all, via the new America's Choice 2 PRLs).

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Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> (in fact, the rumbling is that Verizon pretty much prevents its phones
> from roaming at all, via the new America's Choice 2 PRLs).
>
>

It's been that way a long time, now. In any area VZW is supposed to have
service, it will not roam to SPCS or Alltel.

"clifto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jud Hardcastle wrote:
> > Only because both Sprint and Verizon's national coverage includes analog
> > roaming.
>
> Somewhere I got the impression that Sprint doesn't have analog *anything*,
> doesn't even have analog capability in most of their phones. Is that
wrong?

Yes, it is. There are just a couple of phones that don't have 800 MHz
analogy capability. 95+% do, and can roam on analog, when traveling out of
SPCS native coverage. As I understand it though, SPCS is converting some
analog roaming agreements to digital roaming, when it is available.

Bob

Why would Sprint want to roam analog when the roaming partner provides CDMA?
Doesn't make sense to me.

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "clifto" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Jud Hardcastle wrote:
>> > Only because both Sprint and Verizon's national coverage includes
>> > analog
>> > roaming.
>>
>> Somewhere I got the impression that Sprint doesn't have analog
>> *anything*,
>> doesn't even have analog capability in most of their phones. Is that
> wrong?
>
> Yes, it is. There are just a couple of phones that don't have 800 MHz
> analogy capability. 95+% do, and can roam on analog, when traveling out of
> SPCS native coverage. As I understand it though, SPCS is converting some
> analog roaming agreements to digital roaming, when it is available.
>
> Bob
>
>

"Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:aniqe.9642$tr.8241@fed1read03...
> Why would Sprint want to roam analog when the roaming partner provides
CDMA?
> Doesn't make sense to me.

Could be a number of reasons why, price, or that one provider offers a more
extensive coverage area out in the boonies with analog coverage. That said,
they are starting to change some of their roaming agreements from analog to
digital.

Bob

It seems that if they are going to offer phones that do not offer analog
such as PDAs, then they need to have digital roaming agreements in any
market that supports it.


"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:aniqe.9642$tr.8241@fed1read03...
>> Why would Sprint want to roam analog when the roaming partner provides
> CDMA?
>> Doesn't make sense to me.
>
> Could be a number of reasons why, price, or that one provider offers a
> more
> extensive coverage area out in the boonies with analog coverage. That
> said,
> they are starting to change some of their roaming agreements from analog
> to
> digital.
>
> Bob
>
>

"Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:MTiqe.9644$tr.7235@fed1read03...
> It seems that if they are going to offer phones that do not offer analog
> such as PDAs, then they need to have digital roaming agreements in any
> market that supports it.

It's not "going", it's already been. A PDA or two don't have analog
capability, and there were a couple of phones issued a couple of years ago
that were only 1900 CDMA.

Bob

Then the PDAs that are also 800 Mhz compatible need to have PRLs that allow
then to roam on digital networks.

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:MTiqe.9644$tr.7235@fed1read03...
>> It seems that if they are going to offer phones that do not offer analog
>> such as PDAs, then they need to have digital roaming agreements in any
>> market that supports it.
>
> It's not "going", it's already been. A PDA or two don't have analog
> capability, and there were a couple of phones issued a couple of years ago
> that were only 1900 CDMA.
>
> Bob
>
>

"Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:vQjqe.9657$tr.3818@fed1read03...
> Then the PDAs that are also 800 Mhz compatible need to have PRLs that
allow
> then to roam on digital networks.

Who says they don't? That doesn't mean though that they will work out in the
boonies, where there is analog coverage, but no digital coverage.

Bob

Mij Adyaw wrote:
> Why would Sprint want to roam analog when the roaming partner provides CDMA?
> Doesn't make sense to me.

The theory that I've heard, that makes sense, is that originally they only
inked analog roaming agreements to make it look like no one else had clear
"all-digital" calls. If you were on another carrier, it'd be analog.

That was several years ago. They're finally starting to do CDMA roaming
agreements now.

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Bob Smith wrote:
> "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:MTiqe.9644$tr.7235@fed1read03...
>
>>It seems that if they are going to offer phones that do not offer analog
>>such as PDAs, then they need to have digital roaming agreements in any
>>market that supports it.
>
>
> It's not "going", it's already been. A PDA or two don't have analog
> capability, and there were a couple of phones issued a couple of years ago
> that were only 1900 CDMA.

Yet up between Victorville and Barstow, CA, I roam analog, and I believe
Verizon has digital coverage there. It's a no-man's land, but there is
*some* digital coverage there and Verizon's coverage in this area is pretty
extensive.

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