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- 11-14-2005, 07:54 AM #1James EllisGuest
Hi all,
Is it possible to have 2 cell phones with the same phone number at the same
time? What I want to do is have a small phone that I use at most of the
time but I would also like a larger smart device that I use occasionally
when circumstance warrant it (like at work) but I would not use both at the
same time.
TIA,
Jim
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- 11-14-2005, 08:02 AM #2Bob SmithGuest
Re: I have a question
"James Ellis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:5G0ef.4972$%t4.3163@trnddc07...
> Hi all,
>
> Is it possible to have 2 cell phones with the same phone number at the
> same time? What I want to do is have a small phone that I use at most of
> the time but I would also like a larger smart device that I use
> occasionally when circumstance warrant it (like at work) but I would not
> use both at the same time.
>
> TIA,
> Jim
This was just recently discussed in the past couple of weeks, and with SPCS,
it is not possible.
Bob
- 11-14-2005, 08:24 AM #3James EllisGuest
Re: I have a question
Ok, thanks Bob. Is it possible with other carriers?
"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "James Ellis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:5G0ef.4972$%t4.3163@trnddc07...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Is it possible to have 2 cell phones with the same phone number at the
>> same time? What I want to do is have a small phone that I use at most of
>> the time but I would also like a larger smart device that I use
>> occasionally when circumstance warrant it (like at work) but I would not
>> use both at the same time.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Jim
>
> This was just recently discussed in the past couple of weeks, and with
> SPCS, it is not possible.
>
> Bob
>
- 11-14-2005, 08:37 AM #4Bob SmithGuest
Re: I have a question
"James Ellis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ok, thanks Bob. Is it possible with other carriers?
In the past, possibly ... As for now, I doubt it. You will need to contact
those other carriers to find out.
Keep in mind that you will not be able to register your current SPCS phones
with any other carrier.
Bob
- 11-14-2005, 10:30 AM #5TinmanGuest
Re: I have a question
James Ellis wrote:
> Ok, thanks Bob. Is it possible with other carriers?
>
With most GSM providers, and the right SIM and phones, yes. People do it
all the time (not sure about Nextel).
While SPCS could have gone with some kind of SIM option, we're stuck in
the dark-ages relying on ESNs.
In fact, SPCS has actually regressed, as far as being able to swap
phones. Before Vision, you could go online at sprintpcs.com and swap
phones on your own--whenever you liked. When Vision rolled out, Vision
phones could not use that service. Unless that's changed, and I don't
think it has (I don't think the Webpage even exists anymore), you now
need to go through a CSR in order to make the swap.
Of course, anytime you call a SPCS CSR you must stop and ask yourself,
"Do I feel lucky?" I'd love to be able to switch between my Treo 650 and
Sanyo 8200 at whim. But I've had a string of CS successes and fear my
luck may have run out--and I ain't about to push my luck.
As usual, YMMV.
--
Mike
- 11-14-2005, 10:32 AM #6Isaiah BeardGuest
Re: I have a question
James Ellis wrote:
> Ok, thanks Bob. Is it possible with other carriers?
At this time, none of the other carriers offer this capability. The
closest thing might be to go with a GSM carrier. You can then
theoretically swap the SIM card between as many GSM phones as you like
(as long as they aren't subsidy locked to other carriers). This will
let you "move" your phone number to various phones, however, only one
phone at a time will be useable.
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- 11-14-2005, 02:30 PM #7TinmanGuest
Re: I have a question
Isaiah Beard wrote:
> James Ellis wrote:
>> Ok, thanks Bob. Is it possible with other carriers?
>
>
> At this time, none of the other carriers offer this capability.
Pure nonsense.
> The
> closest thing might be to go with a GSM carrier.
LOL.
Instead of presenting contradictory "information" (speculation?),
perhaps answering"yes" to the question posed would have been more
appropriate. There are people with GSM phones that swap SIMs all the
time.
In other words, yes, it is possible via other carriers--at this time.
--
Mike
- 11-14-2005, 02:51 PM #8NotanGuest
Re: I have a question
Tinman wrote:
>
> Isaiah Beard wrote:
> > James Ellis wrote:
> >> Ok, thanks Bob. Is it possible with other carriers?
> >
> >
> > At this time, none of the other carriers offer this capability.
>
> Pure nonsense.
>
> > The
> > closest thing might be to go with a GSM carrier.
>
> LOL.
>
> Instead of presenting contradictory "information" (speculation?),
> perhaps answering"yes" to the question posed would have been more
> appropriate. There are people with GSM phones that swap SIMs all the
> time.
>
> In other words, yes, it is possible via other carriers--at this time.
Isaiah's response to the OP was absolutely correct. *No* carrier makes
it "possible to have 2 cell phones with the same phone number at the
same time."
He then offered a "next best case" scenario.
How is that "contradictory information?"
Notan
- 11-14-2005, 03:34 PM #9TinmanGuest
Re: I have a question
Notan wrote:
> Tinman wrote:
>>
>> Isaiah Beard wrote:
>>> James Ellis wrote:
>>>> Ok, thanks Bob. Is it possible with other carriers?
>>>
>>>
>>> At this time, none of the other carriers offer this capability.
>>
>> Pure nonsense.
>>
>>> The
>>> closest thing might be to go with a GSM carrier.
>>
>> LOL.
>>
>> Instead of presenting contradictory "information" (speculation?),
>> perhaps answering"yes" to the question posed would have been more
>> appropriate. There are people with GSM phones that swap SIMs all the
>> time.
>>
>> In other words, yes, it is possible via other carriers--at this time.
>
> Isaiah's response to the OP was absolutely correct. *No* carrier makes
> it "possible to have 2 cell phones with the same phone number at the
> same time."
>
In the future, try to read past the first sentence. The OP didn't want
to use two phones at the same time:
"What I want to do is have a small phone that I use at most of the
time but I would also like a larger smart device that I use occasionally
when circumstance warrant it (like at work) but I would not use both at
the
same time"
Now apply a little reading-for-comprehension to the above, particularly
the "I would not use both at the same time" part. Light bulb turn on
yet?
Yep, pretty much what GSM users do all the time.
> He then offered a "next best case" scenario.
>
That "next best case" scenario was already addressed. As usual, Isaiah
showed up a day late and a dollar short. He didn't answer the OP's
original question, he answered the second.
In fact, it's not really a "next best case" scenario (not sure why you
thought that phrase merited quoting, but I'll humor you and continue the
trend), it is the best case scenario if you move to another carrier.
Indeed swapping SIMs does what the OP asked, specifically when he asked
if it could be done via "other carriers."
> How is that "contradictory information?"
>
Since SIMs contain the phone number, plus other data, it is indeed
possible to do what the OP wanted using--his term, not mine--"other
carriers." In fact, as recently reported by Evan, you can do it with
Nextel too.
If you want to be pedantic and ignore what the OP wants to accomplish,
and instead concentrate on his initial misguided question, feel free to
do so. From where I stand, if SPCS used SIMs this would be a non-issue.
For that matter, if SPCS would at least allow online ESM swaps it
wouldn't be that big of an issue.
But for now it is possible to do what he wants via GSM, and apparently,
even with Nextel.
--
Mike
- 11-14-2005, 05:57 PM #10NotanGuest
Re: I have a question
Tinman wrote:
>
> <snip>
You're absolutely correct... I ignored everything after the first sentence.
And, similarly, you chose to ignore the first sentence.
I'd say the OP was the one that provided, in your words, "contradictory
information."
Notan
- 11-14-2005, 08:13 PM #11O/SirisGuest
Re: I have a question
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> Since SIMs contain the phone number, plus other data, it is indeed
> possible to do what the OP wanted using--his term, not mine--"other
> carriers." In fact, as recently reported by Evan, you can do it with
> Nextel too.
>
> If you want to be pedantic and ignore what the OP wants to accomplish,
> and instead concentrate on his initial misguided question, feel free to
> do so. From where I stand, if SPCS used SIMs this would be a non-issue.
> For that matter, if SPCS would at least allow online ESM swaps it
> wouldn't be that big of an issue.
>
There are advantages and disadvantages both ways.
Two users bumped into each other near me. One had a Cingular Blackberry
device, the other a Sprint one. Both fell to the floor. Blackberries
being what they are, they stayed up and running when the two users
picked up their respective devices. 30 seconds later, the Cingular user
is shaking his device lightly, Looking at it puzzled, trying to do the
three-finger soft reset. When he takes out the battery to reset it that
way, the SIM card almost flies from the slot.
In the end, not broken. It just came ajar from the fall, and didn't
break contact until a few moments later. Still, the Cingular user got
frustrated, the Sprint one carried on without a hitch.
This isn't intended to slam either method. I am all for R-UIM's in CDMA
phones. But it's not a golden utopia of cell phone nirvana. And being
without one is not a dark and forboding nightmare of ill service,
either.
--
RØß
O/Siris
-+-
A thing moderately good
is not so good as it ought to be.
Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
but moderation in principle is always a vice.
+Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+
- 11-14-2005, 08:50 PM #12Joseph HuberGuest
Re: I have a question
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 20:13:10 -0600, O/Siris <rØbjvargas@comcâst.nêt>
wrote:
>In the end, not broken. It just came ajar from the fall, and didn't
>break contact until a few moments later. Still, the Cingular user got
>frustrated, the Sprint one carried on without a hitch.
This is the strongest SIM card disadvantage that you can come up
with????
>This isn't intended to slam either method. I am all for R-UIM's in CDMA
>phones. But it's not a golden utopia of cell phone nirvana. And being
>without one is not a dark and forboding nightmare of ill service,
>either.
It's just a complete pain in the tail, and an unnecessary one at that.
I would like to get an EVDO phone, as EVDO is active in a couple of
the major airports that I pass through. But EVDO phones don't support
analog roam, and I still have to travel places that require analog.
Why should something so simple require me to add another line? Easily
solved with the SIM card.
Ok...now I sit and wait for you-know-who to pipe in and tell me that
my problem is a non-issue, because the FCC is going to turn the analog
network off next week anyway...
Joe Huber
[email protected]
- 11-15-2005, 09:18 AM #13ZmanGuest
Re: I have a question
Switching the SIM from one phone to another will work on Nextel with a few
caveats:
* Like platform (you lose features and sometimes service going up or down)
* Inability to use MMS on the secondary phone. The handset's serial number
is also activated, so to use MMS (sending pictures, messaging, etc) on the
second phone will require calls to Nextel to change the MSN every time you
switch.
* Service and repair plans may be voided by doing this. If you have a S&R
plan on your service and switch handsets then bring it in for repair, Nextel
will assume that you are gaming the system and refuse to repair or replace
your phone under the program.
"Evan Platt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 09:30:25 -0700, "Tinman"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >With most GSM providers, and the right SIM and phones, yes. People do it
> >all the time (not sure about Nextel).
>
> Will work as well on Nextel.
- 11-15-2005, 10:31 AM #14TinmanGuest
Re: I have a question
Zman wrote:
> Switching the SIM from one phone to another will work on Nextel with
> a few caveats:
>
> * Like platform (you lose features and sometimes service going up or
> down)
> * Inability to use MMS on the secondary phone. The handset's serial
> number is also activated, so to use MMS (sending pictures, messaging,
> etc) on the second phone will require calls to Nextel to change the
> MSN every time you switch.
> * Service and repair plans may be voided by doing this. If you have
> a S&R plan on your service and switch handsets then bring it in for
> repair, Nextel will assume that you are gaming the system and refuse
> to repair or replace your phone under the program.
>
Well if that's what it entails with Nextel it's not (IMO) something I'd
want to do on a regular basis (if at all).
--
Mike
- 11-15-2005, 08:10 PM #15O/SirisGuest
Re: I have a question
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> This is the strongest SIM card disadvantage that you can come up
> with????
>
You sure do find a way of fabricating even the simplest responses.
Where did I even say it is a "strong disadvantage" at all? I just said
there are some. Why the need to exaggerate my point?
--
RØß
O/Siris
-+-
A thing moderately good
is not so good as it ought to be.
Moderation in temper is always a virtue,
but moderation in principle is always a vice.
+Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+
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