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  1. #16
    Larry
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    Re: Apple iPhone is GSM

    SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:45a43bd3$0$68974
    [email protected]:

    > Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
    > HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
    > said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
    > higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
    > but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.
    >
    >


    Spending $600 on ANYTHING that won't play an MP3 is really stupid.....



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  2. #17
    Bucky
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    Re: Apple iPhone is GSM

    Larry wrote:
    > Spending $600 on ANYTHING that won't play an MP3 is really stupid.....


    are you sure the iPhone can't play mp3s? All the other iPods can play
    mp3s, so I don't see why the iPhone wouldn't. I think only the first
    generation iPods couldn't play mp3s.




  3. #18
    Randall Ainsworth
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    Re: Apple iPhone is GSM

    In article <[email protected]>, Larry
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Spending $600 on ANYTHING that won't play an MP3 is really stupid.....


    It's also an iPod, stupid.



  4. #19

    Re: Apple iPhone is GSM

    On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:05:17 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >[email protected] wrote:
    >> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:38:34 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> P.Schuman wrote:
    >>>>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
    >>>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
    >>>>>
    >>>> It's listed as a GSM device,
    >>>> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.
    >>> The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.

    >>
    >>
    >> Ummm.. It's also WiFi 802.11c and g

    >
    >Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
    >HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
    >said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
    >higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
    >but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.


    Its not just a phone, its all of a Blackberry, an iPod, a PDA, a
    phone, and a true html browser that fits in your pocket at 5 ounces..
    Name another phone that dioes Google Maps.

    They are hints and rumors that 3G and GPS are
    on the way, whether that can be done by firmware upgrade or next years
    model isn't clear yet.



  5. #20

    Re: Apple iPhone is GSM

    On 10 Jan 2007 03:20:09 GMT, Sven Golly <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >
    >"P.Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote in news:%bToh.57951
    >[email protected]:
    >
    >>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
    >>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
    >>>

    >> It's listed as a GSM device,
    >> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.

    >
    >I'll be interested to see how that touch screen holds up in actual real
    >world customer use. Cold. Damp. Heat. Hand lotion. Fingernails. Purses.
    >Mink lined gloveboxes. Old pizza cartons.



    Apple has surely learned their lesson after the first generation iPod
    Nano. And Belkin and others will have screen protectors by Day One of
    Sales.



  6. #21
    Larry
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    Re: Apple iPhone is GSM

    "Bucky" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1168421277.372151.207030
    @i39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

    > are you sure the iPhone can't play mp3s? All the other iPods can play
    > mp3s, so I don't see why the iPhone wouldn't. I think only the first
    > generation iPods couldn't play mp3s.
    >
    >
    >


    Doesn't the loader software for the ipod convert MP3s to Ipoditis? Isn't
    that why you can't just load it on there with Win Explorer and punch play?




  7. #22
    (PeteCresswell)
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    Re: Apple iPhone is GSM

    Per [email protected]:
    >
    >Apple has surely learned their lesson after the first generation iPod
    >Nano. And Belkin and others will have screen protectors by Day One of
    >Sales.


    I wonder.... Certainly my 60-gig iPod's screen is quite badly scratched up after
    less than a year's use - and it's never been in a pocket, always in the belt
    carrier or a charging stand.
    --
    PeteCresswell



  8. #23

    Re: Apple iPhone is GSM

    On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:24:33 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Per [email protected]:
    >>
    >>Apple has surely learned their lesson after the first generation iPod
    >>Nano. And Belkin and others will have screen protectors by Day One of
    >>Sales.

    >
    >I wonder.... Certainly my 60-gig iPod's screen is quite badly scratched up after
    >less than a year's use - and it's never been in a pocket, always in the belt
    >carrier or a charging stand.



    Should have spent a few bucks for a screen protector. I use them on my
    cell phones, and they then end up looking like new after 2 years when
    I sell them on eBay.



  9. #24
    ABC
    Guest

    Re: Apple iPhone is GSM


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:05:17 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    > Its not just a phone, its all of a Blackberry, an iPod, a PDA, a
    > phone, and a true html browser that fits in your pocket at 5 ounces..
    > Name another phone that dioes Google Maps.
    >


    My Blackberry Pearl does Google Maps, what's the big deal?





  10. #25
    Bill Marriott
    Guest

    Re: Apple iPhone is GSM

    > Doesn't the loader software for the ipod convert MP3s to Ipoditis? Isn't
    > that why you can't just load it on there with Win Explorer and punch play?


    No.

    - WMA files must be converted to AAC
    - You have the OPTION of downsampling music to 128bps AAC, but this is to
    enable you to fit more songs

    You can definitely play native MP3s on all current iPods.





  11. #26
    Don
    Guest

    Re: Apple iPhone is GSM

    So does the Treo 700P - and on Spritns fast network.

    The Treo does everything the Ipod phone does - except that the
    earpiece jack is real flimsy.

    On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:49:29 -0600, "ABC" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    ><[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:05:17 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >> Its not just a phone, its all of a Blackberry, an iPod, a PDA, a
    >> phone, and a true html browser that fits in your pocket at 5 ounces..
    >> Name another phone that dioes Google Maps.
    >>

    >
    >My Blackberry Pearl does Google Maps, what's the big deal?
    >





  12. #27
    Bill Marriott
    Guest

    Re: Apple iPhone is GSM

    > Name another phone that does Google Maps.

    Treo 700p





  13. #28
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Apple iPhone is GSM

    At 10 Jan 2007 00:37:54 -0500 Larry wrote:

    > I see it says it also does wifi. It will be interesting to see how
    > Cingular is going to hobble that up to force you to use their $network$.
    >


    They won't. Despite your constant cell-phone provider bad-mouthing,
    Cingular (unlike Verizon) doesn't generally cripple phones in any
    significant way- their wi-fi equipped Windows Mobile smartphones aren't
    crippled at all, and I've found even their low-end phones I've used to
    have most configuration options in them.

    Now, like virtually every carrier, they do tend to ADD a bit of fluff and
    name-branding (i.e. the web-browser menu function might be renamed
    "MEDia" to match the Cingular marketing term for the function) and a low-
    end Nokia I bought from them and unlocked had a ringtone/wallpaper-buying
    option on the main top-level menu while more useful features were several
    levels deeper.

    But no, the iPhone will not be crippled in any way, and I predict it will
    do good things for my (very small amount of) AT&T stock... ;-)



    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com




  14. #29
    SMS
    Guest

    Re: Apple iPhone is GSM

    [email protected] wrote:
    \
    > They are hints and rumors that 3G and GPS are
    > on the way, whether that can be done by firmware upgrade or next years
    > model isn't clear yet.


    Hopefully this is the case. I'd advise waiting for the 3G version, even
    if it ends up being more expensive, but the price points of this device
    are not going to hold up at $500 and $600.

    ZDNet wrote:

    "Although we're pleased Apple made it a quad-band (GSM
    850/900/1800/1900) world phone, we're disappointed the iPhone's data
    support tops out at 2.5G EDGE networks. Considering the
    multimedia-friendly feature set, the omission of any 3G compatibility is
    a bit bizarre, particularly since Cingular now offers UMTS and HSDPA."

    If you look at the device as an OSx web pad/iPod/PDA, the price isn't
    excessive, it's when you think of it as a phone on one of the worst
    carriers in the U.S., that it seems expensive.




  15. #30
    SMS
    Guest

    Re: Apple iPhone is GSM

    P.Schuman wrote:
    >> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
    >> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
    >>

    > It's listed as a GSM device,
    > so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.


    I was in BJ's, next to Apple's campus in Cupertino, about six months ago
    and I overheard some Apple people talking about the iPhone, and Verizon.
    They had pitched it to Verizon, but Verizon made some unacceptable demands:

    1. Bluetooth needed to be disabled, except for the headset.
    2. Music could only be downloaded from Verizon's music service
    3. WiFi would be disabled anytime the device detected Verizon's network
    4. The OS would have to be Windows Embedded
    5. Every photo taken would have to be immediately transferred across
    Verizon's network
    6. No roaming onto any non-Verizon CDMA network, even at extra cost



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