Apple iPhone is GSM

[email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:05:17 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
> >HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
> >said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
> >higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
> >but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.
>
> Its not just a phone, its all of a Blackberry, an iPod, a PDA, a
> phone, and a true html browser that fits in your pocket at 5 ounces..

Uh, no, it's not a Blackberry or a PDA. You can install your own
software on those, which is why people are willing to spend $500 on
them in the first place. You *can't* install your own software on the
iPhone; they may eventually offer extra software, but it'll be a small
selection of apps you have to buy one at a time, just like Verizon's
Get It Now.

There used to be only one carrier that locked down their phones to
force you into using their store. Now there are two.

Jesse

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In article <[email protected]>,
"Jesse McGrew" <[email protected]> wrote:

> [email protected] wrote:
> > On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:05:17 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
> > >HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
> > >said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
> > >higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
> > >but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.
> >
> > Its not just a phone, its all of a Blackberry, an iPod, a PDA, a
> > phone, and a true html browser that fits in your pocket at 5 ounces..
>
> Uh, no, it's not a Blackberry or a PDA. You can install your own
> software on those, which is why people are willing to spend $500 on
> them in the first place. You *can't* install your own software on the
> iPhone; they may eventually offer extra software, but it'll be a small
> selection of apps you have to buy one at a time, just like Verizon's
> Get It Now.
>
> There used to be only one carrier that locked down their phones to
> force you into using their store. Now there are two.
>
> Jesse

I'd personally be happy with a phone where all the apps were just what I
need and all worked well together. I like the idea of a "bulletproof"
unit.
I have a Treo and don't need all the additional programs that you can
buy. Not only that, some are fine, others are crap. Ironic that the
first program i bought for my 650 was VolumeCare, to fix the problem
that Treo phones had with handset volume.

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[email protected] wrote:
> Its not just a phone, its all of a Blackberry, an iPod, a PDA, a
> phone, and a true html browser that fits in your pocket at 5 ounces..
> Name another phone that dioes Google Maps.

It is definitely NOT all of a Blackberry, nor was it ever intended to
be. It's a consumer device, not a business device. It lacks most PDA
features.

Randall Ainsworth wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, Bill
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If they overlooked something this easy to check, the odds
>> the product will do anything but suck wind aren't too good.
>
> The only thing wrong with it is that it's Cingular-only. The
> technology, ease of use, and overall user experience is far beyond any
> other cell phone manufacturer.

Its a product thats 6 months away and you're already claiming better
usability? Do you know how entirely full of **** you are?

How much did apple pay you to write this brainless drivel?

JS

In article <%[email protected]>, Balsof Steele
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Its a product thats 6 months away and you're already claiming better
> usability? Do you know how entirely full of **** you are?
>
> How much did apple pay you to write this brainless drivel?

Come out of the cave and watch the demo. Then tell me of another phone
that's as innovative and easy to use.

In article <[email protected]>,
SMS <[email protected]> wrote:

> [email protected] wrote:
> > Its not just a phone, its all of a Blackberry, an iPod, a PDA, a
> > phone, and a true html browser that fits in your pocket at 5 ounces..
> > Name another phone that dioes Google Maps.
>
> It is definitely NOT all of a Blackberry, nor was it ever intended to
> be. It's a consumer device, not a business device. It lacks most PDA
> features.

With the new Yahoo PUSH email, it WILL be all of a Blackberry. And what
PDA function do you think it is missing?

In article <[email protected]>,
Kurt <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Jesse McGrew" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > [email protected] wrote:
> > > On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:05:17 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
> > > >HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
> > > >said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
> > > >higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
> > > >but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.
> > >
> > > Its not just a phone, its all of a Blackberry, an iPod, a PDA, a
> > > phone, and a true html browser that fits in your pocket at 5 ounces..
> >
> > Uh, no, it's not a Blackberry or a PDA. You can install your own
> > software on those, which is why people are willing to spend $500 on
> > them in the first place. You *can't* install your own software on the
> > iPhone; they may eventually offer extra software, but it'll be a small
> > selection of apps you have to buy one at a time, just like Verizon's
> > Get It Now.
> >
> > There used to be only one carrier that locked down their phones to
> > force you into using their store. Now there are two.
> >
> > Jesse
>
> I'd personally be happy with a phone where all the apps were just what I
> need and all worked well together. I like the idea of a "bulletproof"
> unit.
> I have a Treo and don't need all the additional programs that you can
> buy. Not only that, some are fine, others are crap. Ironic that the
> first program i bought for my 650 was VolumeCare, to fix the problem
> that Treo phones had with handset volume.

For IT people that support a Treo, when users complain "It locks up" the
first suggestion is to Uninstall the last program you installed.

Randall Ainsworth <[email protected]> wrote in
news:130120071124138216%[email protected]:

> Come out of the cave and watch the demo.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! If I had a dollar for every demo that didn't match up to
the real world product, I could move into Jobs' neighborhood.

Watch the demo. BWAHAHAHA!!! Snork! Good one Randall!

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Michael D. Sullivan wrote:

> Unprotected WMAs can be converted to MP3s from within WMP and then
> imported to iTunes. I've done it with WMAs downloaded from
> acidplanet.com. Also, I believe even protected WMAs can be burned to an
> unprotected audio CDR, just as one can do with protected tracks in iTunes.

I hope that wasn't music! Talk about some nasty compression artifacts...

At 13 Jan 2007 11:24:13 -0800 Randall Ainsworth wrote:

> Come out of the cave and watch the demo. Then tell me of another phone
> that's as innovative and easy to use.

I think Balsof is clearly showing his anti-Apple Bias, but to put it in
perspective, the Newton's handwriting recognition always worked in the
demos too! ;-)

In six months all of these hypotheticals will be answered, but not before
we all endlessly argue about them without any real facts...



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"Randall Ainsworth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:130120071124138216%[email protected]...
> In article <%[email protected]>, Balsof Steele
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Its a product thats 6 months away and you're already claiming better
>> usability? Do you know how entirely full of **** you are?
>>
>> How much did apple pay you to write this brainless drivel?
>
> Come out of the cave and watch the demo. Then tell me of another phone
> that's as innovative and easy to use.


"Randall Ainsworth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:130120071124138216%[email protected]...
> In article <%[email protected]>, Balsof Steele
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Its a product thats 6 months away and you're already claiming better
>> usability? Do you know how entirely full of **** you are?
>>
>> How much did apple pay you to write this brainless drivel?
>
> Come out of the cave and watch the demo. Then tell me of another phone
> that's as innovative and easy to use.

1) Maybe the screen gets scratched very easily.
2) Maybe the touch screen doesn't hold up with constant use.
3) Because of the screen it's bigger than a number of other phones.
4) I didn't see the whole demo... how strong were the voice dialing
caoabilities... or did I just miss it?
5) It would be nice to be able to use a spare battery.
6) No adding your own apps & more memory?
7) If you're interested in a phone as a *phone*, the rest of the stuff
doesn't define
usability. If battery life is significant, then you compromise battery
life by using the
thing as an iPod or a web browser.
The battery life statistics weren't that impressive, but that's
understandable
because of all the other things it's trying to do.
8) It doesn't exactly look like the most comfortable thing to hold up to my
ear,
but that might just be me and is certainly dictated by the
screen/size/design constraints.

Innovation is fine but not an end result in and of itself. Remember the
Newton? I gave up trying to
get it to recognize the word "Apple" at the store when I first saw it.

Apple deserves a lot of credit for what they've come up with, but a lot of
things aren't apparent from a demo. It will take a little while after the
thing is released to know if the thing is buggy, fragile, awkward, etc.
It's not perfect. There will be a subsequent version.

In article <[email protected]>, Elmo
P. Shagnasty <[email protected]> wrote:

> The map is not the terrain.
>
> No one knows how much better it is to use than anything else until one
> has ACTUAL experience with both.
>
> An online demo? THAT'S what you base your decision on?
>
> Did you buy a mail order bride based on the picture in the catalog?


The demo that Steve did on Tuesday morning. Jeez...how obtuse can you
be? Let me guess, you're a Verizon subscriber...

In article <[email protected]>, Todd Allcock
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I think Balsof is clearly showing his anti-Apple Bias, but to put it in
> perspective, the Newton's handwriting recognition always worked in the
> demos too! ;-)

It still works on my MP130 and MP2000.

In article <[email protected]>,
Jackzwick <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Kurt <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Jesse McGrew" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:05:17 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
> > > > >HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
> > > > >said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
> > > > >higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
> > > > >but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.
> > > >
> > > > Its not just a phone, its all of a Blackberry, an iPod, a PDA, a
> > > > phone, and a true html browser that fits in your pocket at 5 ounces..
> > >
> > > Uh, no, it's not a Blackberry or a PDA. You can install your own
> > > software on those, which is why people are willing to spend $500 on
> > > them in the first place. You *can't* install your own software on the
> > > iPhone; they may eventually offer extra software, but it'll be a small
> > > selection of apps you have to buy one at a time, just like Verizon's
> > > Get It Now.
> > >
> > > There used to be only one carrier that locked down their phones to
> > > force you into using their store. Now there are two.
> > >
> > > Jesse
> >
> > I'd personally be happy with a phone where all the apps were just what I
> > need and all worked well together. I like the idea of a "bulletproof"
> > unit.
> > I have a Treo and don't need all the additional programs that you can
> > buy. Not only that, some are fine, others are crap. Ironic that the
> > first program i bought for my 650 was VolumeCare, to fix the problem
> > that Treo phones had with handset volume.
>
> For IT people that support a Treo, when users complain "It locks up" the
> first suggestion is to Uninstall the last program you installed.

There you are with a classic reason to have a device with programs
installed that "play together well."

My Treo only has a few aftermarket additions. Probably why it works so
well.

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Randall Ainsworth wrote:
> In article <%[email protected]>, Balsof Steele
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Its a product thats 6 months away and you're already claiming better
>> usability? Do you know how entirely full of **** you are?
>>
>> How much did apple pay you to write this brainless drivel?
>
> Come out of the cave and watch the demo. Then tell me of another phone
> that's as innovative and easy to use.

Hmm... I'd say a common old bell/IBM style desk phone is likely the
easiest phone to use.

As for innovative - I see nothing new or exceptional here except the
Apple name.