NEWS: Sprint boots 200 American patriots for using their phones

<http://www.theregister.com/2007/07/19/sprint_accuses_soldiers_of_excessive_roaming/>

Shortly after they returned home from the war in Iraq, Sprint accused
200 American soldiers of excessive roaming and summarily canceled
their wireless service. At least, that's the word from one of these
embattled national heroes.

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In <[email protected]> John Navas <[email protected]> writes:

><http://www.theregister.com/2007/07/19/sprint_accuses_soldiers_of_excessive_roaming/>

> Shortly after they returned home from the war in Iraq, Sprint accused
> 200 American soldiers of excessive roaming and summarily canceled
> their wireless service. At least, that's the word from one of these
> embattled national heroes.

> [MORE]

[no, that's LESS ]

THis story has been thrashed out up the kazoo, sir. You're
dredging up old news.

That being said, if the folk in DC would stop pretending
that our involvement is Iraq isn't just a weekend holiday,
and if they acknowledged that they've brought us into,
for better or worse, a real war, then **** like this
wouldn't happen to our troops.




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That's old news John and Sprint has since said that any soldier who gets
the letter can simply call in and tell them that they're a soldier and
the roaming limits will be waived.

John Navas wrote:
> <http://www.theregister.com/2007/07/19/sprint_accuses_soldiers_of_excessive_roaming/>
>
> Shortly after they returned home from the war in Iraq, Sprint
> accused 200 American soldiers of excessive roaming and summarily
> canceled their wireless service. At least, that's the word from one
> of these embattled national heroes.
>
> [MORE]

John Navas wrote:
> <http://www.theregister.com/2007/07/19/sprint_accuses_soldiers_of_excessive_roaming/>
>
> Shortly after they returned home from the war in Iraq, Sprint accused
> 200 American soldiers of excessive roaming and summarily canceled
> their wireless service. At least, that's the word from one of these
> embattled national heroes.


Yawn...old news.

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:04:54 GMT, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Shortly after they returned home from the war in Iraq, Sprint accused
> 200 American soldiers of excessive roaming and summarily canceled
> their wireless service. At least, that's the word from one of these
> embattled national heroes.

I took a look at that news and I see problem with it. Sprint sent
notices for cancelation the phone service in July. As I understand,
they were redeployed just a month prior to the notice.

So how can Sprint be upset about excessive roaming in one month?? For
that matter, is it possible for Sprint to see "excessive" pattern from
other carriers in just one month?

Add to that the other round of service cancellation Sprint issued to
excessive complainers, they said it was a one time ONLY.

I call BS on this article. Obviously posted by an anti-Sprint fanboy.

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On 2007-07-20, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> But why should they have to call in and jump through hoops ?

How is Sprint going to automatically determine they're overseas? Do you think
they're all going to change their billing address to their APO?

Think about this. If you have someone at home paying the bills, you're
probably going to have the cellular bill going to that person, not coming to
you.

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:07:11 -1000, "BruceR"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>That's old news John and Sprint has since said that any soldier who gets
>the letter can simply call in and tell them that they're a soldier and
>the roaming limits will be waived.
>

But why should they have to call in and jump through hoops ?

> John Navas wrote:
>> <http://www.theregister.com/2007/07/19/sprint_accuses_soldiers_of_excessive_roaming/>
>>
>> Shortly after they returned home from the war in Iraq, Sprint
>> accused 200 American soldiers of excessive roaming and summarily
>> canceled their wireless service. At least, that's the word from one
>> of these embattled national heroes.
>>
>> [MORE]
>

[email protected] wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:07:11 -1000, "BruceR"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>That's old news John and Sprint has since said that any soldier who
>>gets the letter can simply call in and tell them that they're a
>>soldier and the roaming limits will be waived.
>>
>
> But why should they have to call in and jump through hoops ?
>


Using the phone may be considered "jumping through hoops" for the mentally
challenged like yourself, but for the rest of the world, it is an everyday
exercise.

[email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:07:11 -1000, "BruceR"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That's old news John and Sprint has since said that any soldier who
>> gets the letter can simply call in and tell them that they're a
>> soldier and the roaming limits will be waived.
>>
>
> But why should they have to call in and jump through hoops ?
>
They shouldn't. I'm just reporting "the rest of the story" not judging
it. Well, yes I am, Sprint has always sucked and and always will. ATT &
Verizon, from my experience, aren't much better. That's why I stick with
TMo. They may not be cutting edge but they're a pleasure to deal with
and even give me top notch support for phones I buy that they don't
offer.

Impmon wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Shortly after they returned home from the war in Iraq, Sprint accused
>> 200 American soldiers of excessive roaming and summarily canceled
>> their wireless service. At least, that's the word from one of these
>> embattled national heroes.
>
> I took a look at that news and I see problem with it. Sprint sent
> notices for cancelation the phone service in July. As I understand,
> they were redeployed just a month prior to the notice.
>
> So how can Sprint be upset about excessive roaming in one month?? For
> that matter, is it possible for Sprint to see "excessive" pattern from
> other carriers in just one month?

You dismiss that as if it's impossible, so here comes the devil's advocate.

Joe Grunt signs up for Sprint in Butte, Montana and enlists, goes to boot
camp in Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri, makes "excessive roaming" calls
because more than 50% of his calls are made from an area other than where
he signed up; goes to advanced training in Fort Knox, Kentucky, and makes
more "excessive roaming" calls because more than 50% of his calls are made
from an area other than where he signed up; gets redeployed, then Sprint
sends him a notice.

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clifto <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> Impmon wrote:
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Shortly after they returned home from the war in Iraq, Sprint
>>> accused 200 American soldiers of excessive roaming and summarily
>>> canceled their wireless service. At least, that's the word from
>>> one of these embattled national heroes.
>>
>> I took a look at that news and I see problem with it. Sprint sent
>> notices for cancelation the phone service in July. As I understand,
>> they were redeployed just a month prior to the notice.
>>
>> So how can Sprint be upset about excessive roaming in one month??
>> For that matter, is it possible for Sprint to see "excessive" pattern
>> from other carriers in just one month?
>
> You dismiss that as if it's impossible, so here comes the devil's
> advocate.
>
> Joe Grunt signs up for Sprint in Butte, Montana and enlists, goes to
> boot camp in Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri, makes "excessive roaming"
> calls because more than 50% of his calls are made from an area other
> than where he signed up; goes to advanced training in Fort Knox,
> Kentucky, and makes more "excessive roaming" calls because more than
> 50% of his calls are made from an area other than where he signed up;
> gets redeployed, then Sprint sends him a notice.
>

A very possible scenario, but the "facts" in this case are far different:

1. The soldiers were sent to West Point for a two-month temp assignment,
which is when their excessive roaming began.

2. Because the poster said that the cancellation date of July 31st
mentioned in the letter from Sprint would occur fifteen days before their
assignment ended, that would put their assignment date somewhere around
June 15th.

3. The letters sent out by Sprint were sent in the last couple of days in
June, or roughly two weeks after all of this "excessive" roaming began.


So Sprint would have two weeks worth of data available at best. And that
assumes that the roaming provider was providing Sprint with up-to-the-
minute usage data, which is unlikely. Another fact to consider is that
Sprint would only have two weeks of data to analyze if they chose the
customers up for cancellation at the very last second before sending
letters, which again is unlikely. That means that there was maybe a
weeks' worth of data available, if any at all.

The scenario is way too illogical. The story is crap.

I do not know if the original post were true or not, however, I do
know that there were these excessive roaming letters sent out, and
that Sprint's intent was that anyone that is serving in the military
be excluded from getting the letters. However there were many that
did wind up going to military personnel by mistake. They are making
an effort to call those affected and let them know that it was a
mistake, and they should not have received the letters. Any military
personnel that received the letter and have not been contacted should
call into the number listed on the letter, and get their name removed
from the list.

A friend on the inside

On Jul 20, 10:27 pm, Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
> clifto <[email protected]> wrote innews:[email protected]:
>
>
>
> > Impmon wrote:
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> Shortly after they returned home from the war in Iraq, Sprint
> >>> accused 200 American soldiers of excessive roaming and summarily
> >>> canceled their wireless service. At least, that's the word from
> >>> one of these embattled national heroes.
>
> >> I took a look at that news and I see problem with it. Sprint sent
> >> notices for cancelation the phone service in July. As I understand,
> >> they were redeployed just a month prior to the notice.
>
> >> So how can Sprint be upset about excessive roaming in one month??
> >> For that matter, is it possible for Sprint to see "excessive" pattern
> >> from other carriers in just one month?
>
> > You dismiss that as if it's impossible, so here comes the devil's
> > advocate.
>
> > Joe Grunt signs up for Sprint in Butte, Montana and enlists, goes to
> > boot camp in Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri, makes "excessive roaming"
> > calls because more than 50% of his calls are made from an area other
> > than where he signed up; goes to advanced training in Fort Knox,
> > Kentucky, and makes more "excessive roaming" calls because more than
> > 50% of his calls are made from an area other than where he signed up;
> > gets redeployed, then Sprint sends him a notice.
>
> A very possible scenario, but the "facts" in this case are far different:
>
> 1. The soldiers were sent to West Point for a two-month temp assignment,
> which is when their excessive roaming began.
>
> 2. Because the poster said that the cancellation date of July 31st
> mentioned in the letter from Sprint would occur fifteen days before their
> assignment ended, that would put their assignment date somewhere around
> June 15th.
>
> 3. The letters sent out by Sprint were sent in the last couple of days in
> June, or roughly two weeks after all of this "excessive" roaming began.
>
> So Sprint would have two weeks worth of data available at best. And that
> assumes that the roaming provider was providing Sprint with up-to-the-
> minute usage data, which is unlikely. Another fact to consider is that
> Sprint would only have two weeks of data to analyze if they chose the
> customers up for cancellation at the very last second before sending
> letters, which again is unlikely. That means that there was maybe a
> weeks' worth of data available, if any at all.
>
> The scenario is way too illogical. The story is crap.

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:27:45 -0500, Scott wrote:

> clifto <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> Impmon wrote:
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Shortly after they returned home from the war in Iraq, Sprint
>>>> accused 200 American soldiers of excessive roaming and summarily
>>>> canceled their wireless service. At least, that's the word from
>>>> one of these embattled national heroes.
>>>
>>> I took a look at that news and I see problem with it. Sprint sent
>>> notices for cancelation the phone service in July. As I understand,
>>> they were redeployed just a month prior to the notice.
>>>
>>> So how can Sprint be upset about excessive roaming in one month??
>>> For that matter, is it possible for Sprint to see "excessive" pattern
>>> from other carriers in just one month?
>>
>> You dismiss that as if it's impossible, so here comes the devil's
>> advocate.
>>
>> Joe Grunt signs up for Sprint in Butte, Montana and enlists, goes to
>> boot camp in Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri, makes "excessive roaming"
>> calls because more than 50% of his calls are made from an area other
>> than where he signed up; goes to advanced training in Fort Knox,
>> Kentucky, and makes more "excessive roaming" calls because more than
>> 50% of his calls are made from an area other than where he signed up;
>> gets redeployed, then Sprint sends him a notice.
>>
>
> A very possible scenario, but the "facts" in this case are far different:
>
> 1. The soldiers were sent to West Point for a two-month temp assignment,
> which is when their excessive roaming began.
>
> 2. Because the poster said that the cancellation date of July 31st
> mentioned in the letter from Sprint would occur fifteen days before their
> assignment ended, that would put their assignment date somewhere around
> June 15th.
>
> 3. The letters sent out by Sprint were sent in the last couple of days in
> June, or roughly two weeks after all of this "excessive" roaming began.
>
> So Sprint would have two weeks worth of data available at best. And that
> assumes that the roaming provider was providing Sprint with up-to-the-
> minute usage data, which is unlikely. Another fact to consider is that
> Sprint would only have two weeks of data to analyze if they chose the
> customers up for cancellation at the very last second before sending
> letters, which again is unlikely. That means that there was maybe a
> weeks' worth of data available, if any at all.
>
> The scenario is way too illogical. The story is crap.

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dafydd <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I do not know if the original post were true or not, however, I do
> know that there were these excessive roaming letters sent out, and
> that Sprint's intent was that anyone that is serving in the military
> be excluded from getting the letters. However there were many that
> did wind up going to military personnel by mistake. They are making
> an effort to call those affected and let them know that it was a
> mistake, and they should not have received the letters. Any military
> personnel that received the letter and have not been contacted should
> call into the number listed on the letter, and get their name removed
> from the list.
>


Absolutely correct on all counts.


Hey, karl- if you're still lurking, I'm waiting to hear how SPrint is
supposed to determine the military status of subscribers if the customer
doesn't call them to let them know. I noticed that you seem to disappear
when this was thrown out at you.

>
>

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:11:50 -0500, Scott wrote:

> Hey, karl- if you're still lurking, I'm waiting to hear how SPrint is
> supposed to determine the military status of subscribers if the customer
> doesn't call them to let them know. I noticed that you seem to disappear
> when this was thrown out at you.

Hi, blow me,

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