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- 08-06-2003, 12:52 AM #1boeGuest
I would appreciate your ideas on what the difference is. I have to
LG5350's. Both with version 21 of the software. Both with a PRL of 19.
Both with fully charged batteries. Both with the antenna extended and in
identical locations. Often the same one will have one more bar of reception
or can still receive when the other can no longer. The problem is I have to
return the one that gets better reception since it has a cracked screen. Is
there some setting I missed?
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- 08-06-2003, 07:38 AM #2DONBOGuest
Re: Two identical LG5350's - different reception
As with everything else electronic it all comes down to the processor
chip....when chips are certified for use there is not 1 specific
specification....there is an acceptable range of statistics that will
be accepted....2 of the same model side by side will often get
different reception...that is not uncommon
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- 08-06-2003, 02:25 PM #3boeGuest
Re: Two identical LG5350's - different reception
I've got to get a new job first!
"Paul Blais" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Get rid of them both and get a better phone.
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
- 08-13-2003, 01:17 AM #4ChrisGuest
Re: Two identical LG5350's - different reception
A D wrote:
> Take it into the store and have them tested. They should still be under
> warranty. If one fails, they will replace it as long as there's not
> physical damage.
>
Yes. And with the 5350, I would say there's a good chance it will fail.
I say this from experience. I bought the 5350 back in October or
so... after a while, it had issues. Sprint tested it and said "oh. it
failed this test. We'll replace it." So, along came #2. After not too
long, it had issues and was replaced. So I got #3 from them. It lasted
quite some time, but recently I was having issues with dropped calls
where before I had not. They tested it, it failed. They sent me #4. I
had them test it before they even activated it. It passed. I had them
activate it. It activated just fine. On the way home, I made a call.
I couldn't hear anything. The earpiece in the newly refurbished #4 was
quite dead.
I turned around and went back to the store. They were quite nice about
it all. I now have a Sanyo 8100 that someone had returned within 14
days. The wonderfully nice people at the store replaced the phone and
all my accessories for free.
So yes... I like the 5350 for its styling, UI, etc. but it has issues to
the point I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Of course, Sprint no
longer carries it (mostly due to the issues it has/had), so new
customers shouldn't have the same problem.
One thing I will mention... it helps if you're nice to the people at the
Sprint store. They really are there to help you. If you cuss them out
and act like it's their fault the phone sucks, they're much less likely
to do nice things for you. If you're nice to them, and patient, and so
on, they will be nice in return. Trust me.
-Chris
- 08-13-2003, 10:18 PM #5BumGuest
Re: Two identical LG5350's - different reception
Yeah, try keeping your cool when you walk into a Sprint store at 7:10pm,
wait 35 minutes to be helped, tell them that you need a software upgrade for
your phone, and are then told "We can't do that. Our computers are already
shut down .... you have to bring it in before 7:30".
The store closes at 9:00pm.
#$!*$!$%
-Bum
"Chris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A D wrote:
> > Take it into the store and have them tested. They should still be under
> > warranty. If one fails, they will replace it as long as there's not
> > physical damage.
> >
>
> Yes. And with the 5350, I would say there's a good chance it will fail.
> I say this from experience. I bought the 5350 back in October or
> so... after a while, it had issues. Sprint tested it and said "oh. it
> failed this test. We'll replace it." So, along came #2. After not too
> long, it had issues and was replaced. So I got #3 from them. It lasted
> quite some time, but recently I was having issues with dropped calls
> where before I had not. They tested it, it failed. They sent me #4. I
> had them test it before they even activated it. It passed. I had them
> activate it. It activated just fine. On the way home, I made a call.
> I couldn't hear anything. The earpiece in the newly refurbished #4 was
> quite dead.
>
> I turned around and went back to the store. They were quite nice about
> it all. I now have a Sanyo 8100 that someone had returned within 14
> days. The wonderfully nice people at the store replaced the phone and
> all my accessories for free.
>
> So yes... I like the 5350 for its styling, UI, etc. but it has issues to
> the point I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Of course, Sprint no
> longer carries it (mostly due to the issues it has/had), so new
> customers shouldn't have the same problem.
>
> One thing I will mention... it helps if you're nice to the people at the
> Sprint store. They really are there to help you. If you cuss them out
> and act like it's their fault the phone sucks, they're much less likely
> to do nice things for you. If you're nice to them, and patient, and so
> on, they will be nice in return. Trust me.
>
> -Chris
>
- 08-14-2003, 04:51 AM #6hatoncatGuest
Re: Two identical LG5350's - different reception
A D wrote:
> *Take it into the store and have them tested. They should still be
> under
> warranty. If one fails, they will replace it as long as there's not
> physical damage.
>
> "boe" <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <YudYa.81618$Ho3.11316@sccrnsc03>:
> > I've got to get a new job first!
> >
> > "Paul Blais" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Get rid of them both and get a better phone.
> > >
> > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular
> groups]
> >
> >
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular
> groups] *
Sometimes you have to be specific and ask for the "HP Test" because the
reps are so dumb...
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- 08-14-2003, 05:18 AM #7SprintPCS TechGuest
Re: Two identical LG5350's - different reception
hatoncat <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
>
> A D wrote:
> > *Take it into the store and have them tested. They should still be
> > under
> > warranty. If one fails, they will replace it as long as there's not
> > physical damage.
> Sometimes you have to be specific and ask for the "HP Test" because the
> reps are so dumb...
>
It wouldn't suprise me if they post passed for two reasons:
1) The HP test tests for a range of acceptable results. They both could
pass, just one may have better numbers than the other. This could
effect performance possibly from just fringe areas, to full signal
areas.
If someone comes into my store and wants an HP test, I try to have the
customer service reps (or whoever is taking the phone) ask why they want
the test also, a lot of customers in my area think the HP tester tests
everyhting (including screens, Vision connectivity, and other issues
that the HP tester cannot test).
2) Electronics can have a vide range of performance due to the 'beta' of
all the transistors they use. For example, when Intel makes their
processors, they have one line, not several different lines for
different speeds. They then test the processors to see what the maximum
speed they can handle is, and then program the ROM, and package it as a
processor with a stable speed that would give the most out of that chip.
So, when you're paying $500 more for a faster processor, just think, it
costs the same to make as the one that is $500 less.
You have two distinctly different phones, and unless you bought them on
the same day, for all we know, they could have been made on different
ends of the world (S.Korea, San Fransisco (?) or Loiusiana). I would
only worry if there was more than a 2 bar difference at all (or most of)
the time.
[posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
- 08-14-2003, 07:20 AM #8hatoncatGuest
Re: Two identical LG5350's - different reception
SprintPCS Tech wrote:
> *hatoncat <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> >
> > A D wrote:
> > > *Take it into the store and have them tested. They should still
> be
> > > under
> > > warranty. If one fails, they will replace it as long as there's
> not
> > > physical damage.
>
> > Sometimes you have to be specific and ask for the "HP Test" because
> the
> > reps are so dumb...
> >
>
> It wouldn't suprise me if they post passed for two reasons:
>
> 1) The HP test tests for a range of acceptable results. They both
> could
> pass, just one may have better numbers than the other. This could
> effect performance possibly from just fringe areas, to full signal
> areas.
> If someone comes into my store and wants an HP test, I try to have
> the
> customer service reps (or whoever is taking the phone) ask why they
> want
> the test also, a lot of customers in my area think the HP tester
> tests
> everyhting (including screens, Vision connectivity, and other issues
> that the HP tester cannot test).
>
> 2) Electronics can have a vide range of performance due to the 'beta'
> of
> all the transistors they use. For example, when Intel makes their
> processors, they have one line, not several different lines for
> different speeds. They then test the processors to see what the
> maximum
> speed they can handle is, and then program the ROM, and package it as
> a
> processor with a stable speed that would give the most out of that
> chip.
> So, when you're paying $500 more for a faster processor, just think,
> it
> costs the same to make as the one that is $500 less.
>
> You have two distinctly different phones, and unless you bought them
> on
> the same day, for all we know, they could have been made on
> different
> ends of the world (S.Korea, San Fransisco (?) or Loiusiana). I
> would
> only worry if there was more than a 2 bar difference at all (or most
> of)
> the time.
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular
> groups] *
The HP test has found defects with phones that had completely unrelated
problems. Considering I live in an affiliate market, and it's 2+ hours
to the nearest corporate store I have the HP test run first, rather
than having to drive all the way to a corp store.
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- 09-08-2003, 03:54 PM #9hatoncatGuest
Re: Two identical LG5350's - different reception
A D wrote:
> *Take it into the store and have them tested. They should still be
> under
> warranty. If one fails, they will replace it as long as there's not
> physical damage.
>
> "boe" <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <YudYa.81618$Ho3.11316@sccrnsc03>:
> > I've got to get a new job first!
> >
> > "Paul Blais" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Get rid of them both and get a better phone.
> > >
> > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular
> groups]
> >
> >
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular
> groups] *
Sometimes you have to be specific and ask for the "HP Test" because the
reps are so dumb...
--
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- 09-08-2003, 03:54 PM #10PhillipeGuest
Re: Two identical LG5350's - different reception
In article <Y3E_a.8665$u%[email protected]>,
"Bum" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yeah, try keeping your cool when you walk into a Sprint store at 7:10pm,
> wait 35 minutes to be helped, tell them that you need a software upgrade for
> your phone, and are then told "We can't do that. Our computers are already
> shut down .... you have to bring it in before 7:30".
>
> The store closes at 9:00pm.
>
> #$!*$!$%
>
> -Bum
A perfect reason to call Executive Services.
- 09-08-2003, 03:54 PM #11SprintPCS TechGuest
Re: Two identical LG5350's - different reception
hatoncat <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
>
> A D wrote:
> > *Take it into the store and have them tested. They should still be
> > under
> > warranty. If one fails, they will replace it as long as there's not
> > physical damage.
> Sometimes you have to be specific and ask for the "HP Test" because the
> reps are so dumb...
>
It wouldn't suprise me if they post passed for two reasons:
1) The HP test tests for a range of acceptable results. They both could
pass, just one may have better numbers than the other. This could
effect performance possibly from just fringe areas, to full signal
areas.
If someone comes into my store and wants an HP test, I try to have the
customer service reps (or whoever is taking the phone) ask why they want
the test also, a lot of customers in my area think the HP tester tests
everyhting (including screens, Vision connectivity, and other issues
that the HP tester cannot test).
2) Electronics can have a vide range of performance due to the 'beta' of
all the transistors they use. For example, when Intel makes their
processors, they have one line, not several different lines for
different speeds. They then test the processors to see what the maximum
speed they can handle is, and then program the ROM, and package it as a
processor with a stable speed that would give the most out of that chip.
So, when you're paying $500 more for a faster processor, just think, it
costs the same to make as the one that is $500 less.
You have two distinctly different phones, and unless you bought them on
the same day, for all we know, they could have been made on different
ends of the world (S.Korea, San Fransisco (?) or Loiusiana). I would
only worry if there was more than a 2 bar difference at all (or most of)
the time.
[posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
- 09-08-2003, 03:54 PM #12hatoncatGuest
Re: Two identical LG5350's - different reception
SprintPCS Tech wrote:
> *hatoncat <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> >
> > A D wrote:
> > > *Take it into the store and have them tested. They should still
> be
> > > under
> > > warranty. If one fails, they will replace it as long as there's
> not
> > > physical damage.
>
> > Sometimes you have to be specific and ask for the "HP Test" because
> the
> > reps are so dumb...
> >
>
> It wouldn't suprise me if they post passed for two reasons:
>
> 1) The HP test tests for a range of acceptable results. They both
> could
> pass, just one may have better numbers than the other. This could
> effect performance possibly from just fringe areas, to full signal
> areas.
> If someone comes into my store and wants an HP test, I try to have
> the
> customer service reps (or whoever is taking the phone) ask why they
> want
> the test also, a lot of customers in my area think the HP tester
> tests
> everyhting (including screens, Vision connectivity, and other issues
> that the HP tester cannot test).
>
> 2) Electronics can have a vide range of performance due to the 'beta'
> of
> all the transistors they use. For example, when Intel makes their
> processors, they have one line, not several different lines for
> different speeds. They then test the processors to see what the
> maximum
> speed they can handle is, and then program the ROM, and package it as
> a
> processor with a stable speed that would give the most out of that
> chip.
> So, when you're paying $500 more for a faster processor, just think,
> it
> costs the same to make as the one that is $500 less.
>
> You have two distinctly different phones, and unless you bought them
> on
> the same day, for all we know, they could have been made on
> different
> ends of the world (S.Korea, San Fransisco (?) or Loiusiana). I
> would
> only worry if there was more than a 2 bar difference at all (or most
> of)
> the time.
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular
> groups] *
The HP test has found defects with phones that had completely unrelated
problems. Considering I live in an affiliate market, and it's 2+ hours
to the nearest corporate store I have the HP test run first, rather
than having to drive all the way to a corp store.
--
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Free wireless access @ www.SprintUsers.com/wap
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