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- 08-31-2003, 10:49 PM #1Keith DGuest
Specefically, do they use the same protocals, and can I buy an
"unlocked" phone off ebay and make it work on Sprint's digital band?
If not, can you recomend other similar phones without feature bloat,
and durable cases that aren't fat.
Thanks,
Keith
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- 08-31-2003, 10:59 PM #2Lawrence GlasserGuest
Re: Will a v60 work on sprint
Keith D wrote:
>
> Specefically, do they use the same protocals, and can I buy an
> "unlocked" phone off ebay and make it work on Sprint's digital band?
> If not, can you recomend other similar phones without feature bloat,
> and durable cases that aren't fat.
Sprint will NOT activate a phone that's not a "Sprint phone."
Larry
- 08-31-2003, 11:51 PM #3budneyGuest
Re: Will a v60 work on sprint
I understand why they can't, but wish they did.
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- 09-01-2003, 12:21 AM #4Lawrence GlasserGuest
Re: Will a v60 work on sprint
budney wrote:
>
> I understand why they can't, but wish they did.
You and me and LOTS of others!
Larry
- 09-01-2003, 02:36 AM #51900mhzcdmaGuest
Re: Will a v60 work on sprint
Keith D wrote:
> Specefically, do they use the same protocals, and can I buy an
> "unlocked" phone off ebay and make it work on Sprint's digital band?
> If not, can you recomend other similar phones without feature bloat,
> and durable cases that aren't fat.
>
> Thanks,
> Keith
There are several v60 flavors. one for verizon, which would work.
There's one that is from AT&T that would NOT work.Protocol is PCS IS-95
or 1900mhz CDMA. Affiliates are sometimes known to activate, but NOT
corporate. ATT uses TDMA based technologies as their digital interface.
For a compatible phone, there is a lot of stuff that wouldn't work with
the network. You would essentially have a voice ONLY phone.
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- 09-01-2003, 01:25 PM #6Keith DGuest
Re: Will a v60 work on sprint
Did sprint ever sell these phones with the full data capability. If I
get one that was used on Sprint last(they don't say if it was
date+voice or just voice), what are my chances that I will be able to
at least download new ringtones and JAVA games onto it? My family has
the Vision service, but I don't want to get a brand new color lcd
phone because they're not my type, and in my opinion tend to be bulky.
- 09-01-2003, 01:48 PM #7Joseph OlivaGuest
Re: Will a v60 work on sprint
No the v60 will not work on the sprint pcs network. Sprint uses 1900MHz
as their primary network frequency and on the v60, 1900MHz is not the
primary network frequency.
[email protected] (Keith D) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Did sprint ever sell these phones with the full data capability. If I
> get one that was used on Sprint last(they don't say if it was
> date+voice or just voice), what are my chances that I will be able to
> at least download new ringtones and JAVA games onto it? My family has
> the Vision service, but I don't want to get a brand new color lcd
> phone because they're not my type, and in my opinion tend to be bulky.
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- 09-01-2003, 02:20 PM #8PhillipeGuest
Re: Will a v60 work on sprint
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Keith D) wrote:
> Did sprint ever sell these phones with the full data capability. If I
> get one that was used on Sprint last(they don't say if it was
> date+voice or just voice), what are my chances that I will be able to
> at least download new ringtones and JAVA games onto it? My family has
> the Vision service, but I don't want to get a brand new color lcd
> phone because they're not my type, and in my opinion tend to be bulky.
Since the Verizon v60 is designed to roam on 1900 Mhz in theory it could
be configured to be a SprintPCS phone, but Verizon has not designed it
to do so, and Sprint will generally not allow such. So with both Verizon
and Sprint against you you are most likely SOL.
- 09-01-2003, 02:21 PM #9Lawrence GlasserGuest
Re: Will a v60 work on sprint
Phillipe wrote:
>
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Keith D) wrote:
>
> > Did sprint ever sell these phones with the full data capability. If I
> > get one that was used on Sprint last(they don't say if it was
> > date+voice or just voice), what are my chances that I will be able to
> > at least download new ringtones and JAVA games onto it? My family has
> > the Vision service, but I don't want to get a brand new color lcd
> > phone because they're not my type, and in my opinion tend to be bulky.
>
> Since the Verizon v60 is designed to roam on 1900 Mhz in theory it could
> be configured to be a SprintPCS phone, but Verizon has not designed it
> to do so, and Sprint will generally not allow such. So with both Verizon
> and Sprint against you you are most likely SOL.
It's not a matter of "... generally not allow such."
Sprint WILL NOT activate someone else's phone!
Larry
- 09-01-2003, 03:13 PM #10Rich BromeGuest
Re: Will a v60 work on sprint
[email protected] (Joseph Oliva) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> No the v60 will not work on the sprint pcs network. Sprint uses 1900MHz
> as their primary network frequency and on the v60, 1900MHz is not the
> primary network frequency.
Not true. Every v60 ever made for the U.S. supports the 1900 MHz
frequency. Frequency has nothing to do with it.
The issue is that the GSM and TDMA versions are not compatible with
Sprint's CDMA network. The CDMA v60 for Verizon would technically work
on Sprint's network, the issue is that Sprint simply won't activate a
non-Sprint phone, and they have the ESN database to easily enforce that
policy.
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- 09-01-2003, 07:23 PM #11Andrew SGuest
Re: Will a v60 work on sprint
[email protected] (Rich Brome) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> [email protected] (Joseph Oliva) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > No the v60 will not work on the sprint pcs network. Sprint uses 1900MHz
> > as their primary network frequency and on the v60, 1900MHz is not the
> > primary network frequency.
>
> Not true. Every v60 ever made for the U.S. supports the 1900 MHz
> frequency. Frequency has nothing to do with it.
>
> The issue is that the GSM and TDMA versions are not compatible with
> Sprint's CDMA network. The CDMA v60 for Verizon would technically work
> on Sprint's network, the issue is that Sprint simply won't activate a
> non-Sprint phone, and they have the ESN database to easily enforce that
> policy.
Doesn't Sprint have a strong preference for CDMA 1X phones, since they
improve the capacity of their network? I believe the v60c is not a 1X.
There is the v60x/p, but then the issue of having a WAP 2.0 browser on
1X data arises.
Nokia sidestepped this by offering a voice-only 1X model. If it was
succesful enough, maybe other vendors will (be able to) do so as well.
- 09-01-2003, 07:33 PM #12RodGuest
Re: Will a v60 work on sprint
Joseph Oliva wrote:
> No the v60 will not work on the sprint pcs network. Sprint uses
> 1900MHz as their primary network frequency and on the v60, 1900MHz is
> not the primary network frequency.
Good Lord where do you people come up with this crap?
- 09-01-2003, 08:20 PM #13SprintPCS TechGuest
Re: Will a v60 work on sprint
Lawrence Glasser <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> budney wrote:
> >
> > I understand why they can't, but wish they did.
>
> You and me and LOTS of others!
>
> Larry
But its a liability issue.
Sure it would be nice to be able to take any phone that uses the 1900MHz
CDMA network, BUT...
You're using a phone on a network that the phone has not been tested on.
Yes, they may say 1900MHz CDMA, but what about other functionality?
Voice mail, voice command etc...
I'm sure some people would understand that these features may not work
100% with Sprint PCS's service, but there are many who would expect 100%
compatability with Sprint's network. Thus causing a huge issue.
Second, Sprint PCS would have no way of testing and updating these
phones. Again, some people would understand others would do nothing but
cause a huge stink over this stating "Well, Sprint allowed me to
activate it".
In a nutshell, yes, people would be happy with someone else's phone (an
I700 from Verizon?), and I'm sure if it wasn't the liability issue,
Sprint would love to also (since they didn't have to shell out the money
for the phone), but in the end, the service aspect of it would most
likely eat up the savings.
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- 09-01-2003, 08:41 PM #14Ben HoganGuest
Re: Will a v60 work on sprint
Rumor has it that Sprint will have Motorola phonas again probably in
the November time frame. They might allow the v60 soon. Maybe Sprint
will some day have an American made phone (built in China) on their
network.
In article <[email protected]>, Keith D
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Specefically, do they use the same protocals, and can I buy an
> "unlocked" phone off ebay and make it work on Sprint's digital band?
> If not, can you recomend other similar phones without feature bloat,
> and durable cases that aren't fat.
>
> Thanks,
> Keith
- 09-01-2003, 09:11 PM #15hatoncatGuest
Re: Will a v60 work on sprint
No, that's not going to happen.
The v60 was very close to being a Sprint phone (you could actually see
the v60 product page on SprintPCS.com if you edited the link), but
Sprint pulled out on the deal.
Motorola is no friend of Sprint, they did something major to make
Sprint mad.
Ben Hogan wrote:
> *Rumor has it that Sprint will have Motorola phonas again probably
> in
> the November time frame. They might allow the v60 soon. Maybe
> Sprint
> will some day have an American made phone (built in China) on their
> network.
>
>
>
> In article <[email protected]>, Keith
> D
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Specefically, do they use the same protocals, and can I buy an
> > "unlocked" phone off ebay and make it work on Sprint's digital
> band?
> > If not, can you recomend other similar phones without feature
> bloat,
> > and durable cases that aren't fat.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Keith *
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