Advice for calling US Mobile Phone?

I do not mean gsm. I mean the same 3G technology, not wcdma, the same
proper accounting for costs, and the same billing/plans.
Maybe because it has lower capacity, poorer hand off, more expensive to
run, etc., etc., etc..

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Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sekhar <[email protected]> wrote:
> > It really amazes me. India is the cheapest place for cellular plans.
> > For $4.00 a month they give you unlimited incoming minutes and $0.20
> > per minute for calling anywhere within India (with unlimited in-network
> > minutes from few carriers).
>
> Here in Malaysia I have to pay US$2.50 per month (the minimum recharge to
> keep my SIM from expiring) for unlimited incoming minutes,

I thought Malaysia was Calling Party Pays though? That's a very good
deal for unlimited incoming if you'd have to pay for it otherwise
though.

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chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco <[email protected]> wrote:
> Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Sekhar <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> It really amazes me. India is the cheapest place for cellular plans.
>>> For $4.00 a month they give you unlimited incoming minutes and $0.20
>>> per minute for calling anywhere within India (with unlimited in-network
>>> minutes from few carriers).
>>
>> Here in Malaysia I have to pay US$2.50 per month (the minimum recharge to
>> keep my SIM from expiring) for unlimited incoming minutes,
>
> I thought Malaysia was Calling Party Pays though? That's a very good
> deal for unlimited incoming if you'd have to pay for it otherwise
> though.

It is indeed calling party pays, I just wanted to play along.

Overall termination charges here are pretty low, but mobile is still about
twice landline (so typical rates to call Malaysia from the USA are 3c/min
landline, 6c/min mobile).

miguel
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Jerome Zelinske wrote:
> I am perfectly willing to pay what it costs me, but not have added to
> that cost what it should be costing you. There is an expense
> incurred that enables you to be mobile. You should pay your own
> bills, not me.


You are again assuming that being mobile is special. It is not. Here
fortunately the caller pays the whole bill. We do not want to pay for
answering the phone.

Osmo

Wolfgang Barth wrote:

> There are good plans with lots of minutes there and even including free
> evenings and weekends which is rare here. But prepaid isn't attractive
> in the US. I do not understand this policy. Especially the very high
> mininum loads and very short expiry times.

It's pretty simple. Prepaid users don't buy minutes in bulk like postpaid
users do. But prepaid is coming way down in price. Many carriers do
10c/minute now.

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Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:

> chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Sekhar <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> It really amazes me. India is the cheapest place for cellular plans.
> >>> For $4.00 a month they give you unlimited incoming minutes and $0.20
> >>> per minute for calling anywhere within India (with unlimited in-network
> >>> minutes from few carriers).
> >>
> >> Here in Malaysia I have to pay US$2.50 per month (the minimum recharge to
> >> keep my SIM from expiring) for unlimited incoming minutes,
> >
> > I thought Malaysia was Calling Party Pays though? That's a very good
> > deal for unlimited incoming if you'd have to pay for it otherwise
> > though.
>
> It is indeed calling party pays, I just wanted to play along.

Ah- ok. I have a couple of UK SIM's for which I get free incoming calls
(other person pays- their problem!) and all I have to do is make sure
the number is called every 6 months. It's the ne plus ultra for those of
us who don't need to make calls from the mobile for more than several
hundred minutes a month.

> Overall termination charges here are pretty low, but mobile is still about
> twice landline (so typical rates to call Malaysia from the USA are 3c/min
> landline, 6c/min mobile).

Yes, that's not bad. The only European country I've found that has low
mobile rates is Cyprus (South.) Until recently, it was a monopoly, so
it's interesting it was so cheap. (I would have thought the small area
and high population would make a difference there.)

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There you go using that term again. I do not know what you mean by it.
What is it that you think I think is special. I have told you before
the only thing that I think is special or different about wireless
phones, a) the let you be mobile, b) unfortunately in the case of
european and some other countries, calls to them from most people cost
more.
When you chose to answer your wireless phone, you are choosing to use
your wireless service. When you choose to use your wireless service,
you should pay for it.

Yes that is exactly what I am saying. Your wireless service company is
charging other people for service given to you. You should pay your own
bill. Why your wireless companies are not being sued, or your
governments passing laws against the unfair billing, or enforcing
existing laws, is a mystery.
No forwarding huh. When the big bundle of wires gets to your wireless
service provider, how does the call reach your wireless phone? Your
wireless company forwards it over the air waves.
When I call my Parents across the state, about a hundred miles away,
from my land line, I get charged by my local phone company for making a
call, about 4 cents or less, and I get charged by the minute by my Long
Distance carrier of choice, but I do not get charged anything by my
Parent's local land line company.
The same goes if I call my Brother's wireless phone a few thousand
miles away. My local land line phone company charges me the 4 cents, my
LD company charges me per minute, but my Brother's wireless provider,
which incidentaly is not the same as my wireless provider, does not
charge me anything. They are providing him with a service, not me.
They therefore charge him.
These are the just and proper and fair charges by almost all wireline
and wireless service operators in this country. The exceptions being
the sex lines, chat lines (same thing?), horoscope lines, vote for your
favorite idol, etc.. Many parents have their local land line phone
company block those numbers.
Oh yes, they are calling your wireless or wireline phone company. The
number dialed does not belong to you. It belongs to the wireless or
wireline phone company. The subscribers to those services are just
leasing the use of those numbers. Even if you port your number, when
your subscription ends, the number goes back to the pool of numbers
for/of your first provider.

What I am aware of is that whom ever I call in the USA, from a landline
or wireless to a landline or wireless, I do not get a per minute charge
on my phone bill from the destination local company. The charge on my
bill is the same either way, either way. The persons I am calling are
paying for their local service.