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  1. #16
    Justin
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    Re: Internet Tax Collections

    Larry wrote on [Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:34:38 +0000]:
    >
    > I'm, personally, very proud of you. I bet we couldn't find one non-
    > DRM'd MP3 file on any of your computers or sellphones.


    MP3 doesn't do DRM, you can also legally purchase non-DRM MP3s from
    plenty of places, including Amazon



    See More: Internet Tax Collections




  2. #17
    News
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    Re: Internet Tax Collections



    Larry wrote:
    > News <[email protected]> wrote in
    > news:[email protected]:
    >
    >>
    >> Larry wrote:
    >>> "Jon" <[email protected]> wrote in
    >>> news:[email protected]:
    >>>
    >>>> Only if the company you are buying from has an establish presence in
    >>>> your state. For example, newegg.com.
    >>> Better read it again, Jon. They intend to pass a FEDERAL law so that
    >>> US marketers collect YOUR state's taxes for them no matter where the
    >>> seller is even if he has no presence in your state. That's what's
    >>> different from now.
    >>>
    >>> The only way to retaliate is only buy from foreign stores out of the
    >>> clutches of the US Gummit. I understand, even if Washington doesn't
    >>> think so, that many places are still not under the NWO jurisdiction,
    >>> at least temporarily, and not subject to ever whim of the NWO in DC.
    >>>
    >>> I'll be buying a lot from China, Taiwan and Europe/UK if it passes.
    >>>

    >>
    >> Add true logistics costs in the coming higher fuel cost environment
    >> and how do you expect that to work?
    >>
    >> We've already seen modal split shift away from air and seen supply
    >> chains shortened to land-only.
    >>

    >
    > Kindly note it's not about ME....
    >
    > I was pointing to a news article. I'm on your side!
    >



    Understood!



  3. #18
    Larry
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    Re: Internet Tax Collections

    "Richard B. Gilbert" <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    > Damned right you couldn't! But THAT has nothing to do with honesty;
    > what passes for music these days just hurts my ears!
    >
    >


    I tried to send Tommy Dorsey some cash to make up for the songs I stole
    off Usenet. He, or maybe the post office I forget which, sent my check
    back, so I guess he doesn't want me to pay for his band's music any
    more......

    Is that OK?

    Diana Krall was most impressed and had her people send me a hand-signed
    beautiful poster for my bedroom wall. She never has to worry about
    sleeping alone as long as I'm alive.......(c;]

    Her signature was also on the $20 check!

    Shhh...don't tell all those music Jews we bypassed in between....



  4. #19
    Justin
    Guest

    Re: Internet Tax Collections

    Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:51:10 -0500]:
    > Larry wrote:
    >> I'm, personally, very proud of you. I bet we couldn't find one non-
    >> DRM'd MP3 file on any of your computers or sellphones.
    >>

    >
    > Damned right you couldn't! But THAT has nothing to do with honesty;
    > what passes for music these days just hurts my ears!


    So, you can't turn older music into MP3?



  5. #20
    D. Stussy
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    Re: Internet Tax Collections

    "Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "D. Stussy" <[email protected]> wrote in

    news:[email protected]:
    > > Not quite true. If one is buying from a company in another state

    that
    > > has no presence in one's own state, no sales tax is collected AT

    THE
    > > SOURCE. However, state law may well require that the purchaser

    still
    > > pay sales/use tax. Such is true in California (where I am),

    although
    > > no one does.

    >
    > SC has use tax, too. Enforcement of the unenforceable is another

    matter.
    >
    > How much did YOU send in last year?
    >
    > Nuthin', just like the rest of us.


    So? What about sending in nothing? That would be a correct result
    if I made no mail order purchases.





  6. #21
    Todd Allcock
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    Re: Internet Tax Collections


    "Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    >>> I'm, personally, very proud of you. I bet we couldn't find one non-
    >>> DRM'd MP3 file on any of your computers or sellphones.
    >>>

    >>
    >> Damned right you couldn't! But THAT has nothing to do with honesty;
    >> what passes for music these days just hurts my ears!

    >
    > So, you can't turn older music into MP3?


    Try finding an Edison cylinder phonograph with line outputs! ;-)






  7. #22
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Internet Tax Collections


    "D. Stussy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    > Not quite true. If one is buying from a company in another state that
    > has no presence in one's own state, no sales tax is collected AT THE
    > SOURCE. However, state law may well require that the purchaser still
    > pay sales/use tax. Such is true in California (where I am), although
    > no one does.


    That article Larry linked was interesting- it seems that New York decided
    that everyone in New York with a website that has an affiliate/referral deal
    with Amazon gave Amazon presence in NY, and required Amazon to collect NY
    sales tax. (Which they've been doing, while simultaneously suing the State
    of New York over this.) It also said Overstock.com cancelled all affiliate
    deals with New Yorkers as a result to avoid the same fate.

    Annoying of NY, perhaps, but very clever... ;-)











  8. #23
    Justin
    Guest

    Re: Internet Tax Collections

    Todd Allcock wrote on [Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:07:10 -0700]:
    >
    > "D. Stussy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >> Not quite true. If one is buying from a company in another state that
    >> has no presence in one's own state, no sales tax is collected AT THE
    >> SOURCE. However, state law may well require that the purchaser still
    >> pay sales/use tax. Such is true in California (where I am), although
    >> no one does.

    >
    > That article Larry linked was interesting- it seems that New York decided
    > that everyone in New York with a website that has an affiliate/referral deal
    > with Amazon gave Amazon presence in NY, and required Amazon to collect NY
    > sales tax. (Which they've been doing, while simultaneously suing the State
    > of New York over this.) It also said Overstock.com cancelled all affiliate
    > deals with New Yorkers as a result to avoid the same fate.


    That sort of crap can put small business out of business. Do you think
    every small internet retailer can afford the nightmare of however many
    hundred tax jurisdictions there are in the US?



  9. #24
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Internet Tax Collections


    "Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    >> That article Larry linked was interesting- it seems that New York decided
    >> that everyone in New York with a website that has an affiliate/referral
    >> deal
    >> with Amazon gave Amazon presence in NY, and required Amazon to collect NY
    >> sales tax. (Which they've been doing, while simultaneously suing the
    >> State
    >> of New York over this.) It also said Overstock.com cancelled all
    >> affiliate
    >> deals with New Yorkers as a result to avoid the same fate.

    >
    > That sort of crap can put small business out of business. Do you think
    > every small internet retailer can afford the nightmare of however many
    > hundred tax jurisdictions there are in the US?


    Seriously? A business that uses computers to keep track of x# of inventory
    items, purchases from x# of vendors, etc. can't manage 50 or so tax
    jurisdictions? (Most large retailers with POPs in multiple states, like
    Target just use the capital city jurisdiction for online and catalog
    shipments. If they get away with it, Mom and Pops will be able to.)

    This will a good time to be in the sales tax compliance software business,
    however! ;-)






  10. #25
    Justin
    Guest

    Re: Internet Tax Collections

    Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:24:08 -0500]:
    > Justin wrote:
    >> Richard B. Gilbert wrote on [Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:51:10 -0500]:
    >>> Larry wrote:
    >>>> I'm, personally, very proud of you. I bet we couldn't find one non-
    >>>> DRM'd MP3 file on any of your computers or sellphones.
    >>>>
    >>> Damned right you couldn't! But THAT has nothing to do with honesty;
    >>> what passes for music these days just hurts my ears!

    >>
    >> So, you can't turn older music into MP3?

    >
    > I suppose I could, but why? I have a 100 Watt stereo amplifier,
    > Acoustic Research speakers, etc, etc. My poor little cell phone just
    > can't compete!
    >
    > I'm not sure I could fit Wagner's "Der Ring des Nibelungen" into my 1 GB
    > flash ROM.


    Oh, in case you leave the house.



  11. #26
    Justin
    Guest

    Re: Internet Tax Collections

    Todd Allcock wrote on [Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:26:25 -0700]:
    >
    > "Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>> That article Larry linked was interesting- it seems that New York decided
    >>> that everyone in New York with a website that has an affiliate/referral
    >>> deal
    >>> with Amazon gave Amazon presence in NY, and required Amazon to collect NY
    >>> sales tax. (Which they've been doing, while simultaneously suing the
    >>> State
    >>> of New York over this.) It also said Overstock.com cancelled all
    >>> affiliate
    >>> deals with New Yorkers as a result to avoid the same fate.

    >>
    >> That sort of crap can put small business out of business. Do you think
    >> every small internet retailer can afford the nightmare of however many
    >> hundred tax jurisdictions there are in the US?

    >
    > Seriously? A business that uses computers to keep track of x# of inventory
    > items, purchases from x# of vendors, etc. can't manage 50 or so tax
    > jurisdictions? (Most large retailers with POPs in multiple states, like


    And filing tax forms, etc. etc. Yeah.

    > Target just use the capital city jurisdiction for online and catalog
    > shipments. If they get away with it, Mom and Pops will be able to.)
    >
    > This will a good time to be in the sales tax compliance software business,
    > however! ;-)


    Exactly.



  12. #27
    Your Name
    Guest

    Re: Internet Tax Collections


    "Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Todd Allcock wrote on [Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:07:10 -0700]:
    > >
    > > "D. Stussy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > >> Not quite true. If one is buying from a company in another state that
    > >> has no presence in one's own state, no sales tax is collected AT THE
    > >> SOURCE. However, state law may well require that the purchaser still
    > >> pay sales/use tax. Such is true in California (where I am), although
    > >> no one does.

    > >
    > > That article Larry linked was interesting- it seems that New York

    decided
    > > that everyone in New York with a website that has an affiliate/referral

    deal
    > > with Amazon gave Amazon presence in NY, and required Amazon to collect

    NY
    > > sales tax. (Which they've been doing, while simultaneously suing the

    State
    > > of New York over this.) It also said Overstock.com cancelled all

    affiliate
    > > deals with New Yorkers as a result to avoid the same fate.

    >
    > That sort of crap can put small business out of business. Do you think
    > every small internet retailer can afford the nightmare of however many
    > hundred tax jurisdictions there are in the US?


    I don't know about in America, but for the GST (similar to the British VAT)
    here in New Zealand, businesses legally only have to register / collect /
    return sales tax if they are earning over a certain amount per week. I can't
    recall what that amount is, but that means small businesses (like my own
    tiny business) don't have to bother with GST at all, although they can if
    they really want to claim back the GST their business pays to others.





  13. #28
    Todd Allcock
    Guest

    Re: Internet Tax Collections

    At 14 Jan 2009 02:07:20 +0000 danny burstein wrote:

    > >> So, you can't turn older music into MP3?

    >
    > >Try finding an Edison cylinder phonograph with line outputs! ;-)

    >
    > How's about:
    >
    > Linkname: ELP Laser Turntable: Plays Vinyl Records without a Needle
    > URL: http://www.elpj.com/
    >
    > Bet'cha it could be modified...



    That looks prety cool...

    ....and a steal at $11,000 (plus shipping!)






  14. #29
    D. Stussy
    Guest

    Re: Internet Tax Collections

    "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Justin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >> That article Larry linked was interesting- it seems that New York

    decided
    > >> that everyone in New York with a website that has an

    affiliate/referral deal
    > >> with Amazon gave Amazon presence in NY, and required Amazon to

    collect NY
    > >> sales tax. (Which they've been doing, while simultaneously suing

    the State
    > >> of New York over this.) It also said Overstock.com cancelled all

    affiliate
    > >> deals with New Yorkers as a result to avoid the same fate.

    > >
    > > That sort of crap can put small business out of business. Do you

    think
    > > every small internet retailer can afford the nightmare of however

    many
    > > hundred tax jurisdictions there are in the US?

    >
    > Seriously? A business that uses computers to keep track of x# of

    inventory
    > items, purchases from x# of vendors, etc. can't manage 50 or so tax
    > jurisdictions? (Most large retailers with POPs in multiple states,

    like
    > Target just use the capital city jurisdiction for online and catalog
    > shipments. If they get away with it, Mom and Pops will be able to.)
    >
    > This will a good time to be in the sales tax compliance software

    business,
    > however! ;-)


    It's not 50 jurisdictions. Every COUNTY has the right to have local
    tack-on amounts. Therefore, to cover the United States, it's more
    like 1,800+ jurisidictions - for which the amount could change as a
    result of any election.





  15. #30
    Kevin Weaver
    Guest

    Re: Internet Tax Collections

    "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > At 14 Jan 2009 02:07:20 +0000 danny burstein wrote:
    >
    >> >> So, you can't turn older music into MP3?

    >>
    >> >Try finding an Edison cylinder phonograph with line outputs! ;-)

    >>
    >> How's about:
    >>
    >> Linkname: ELP Laser Turntable: Plays Vinyl Records without a Needle
    >> URL: http://www.elpj.com/
    >>
    >> Bet'cha it could be modified...

    >
    >
    > That looks prety cool...
    >
    > ...and a steal at $11,000 (plus shipping!)
    >
    >
    >


    Off there website, there on sale for $9,000 Higher end goes for $9,900




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